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Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.10 00:02:00 -
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For those of you as yet uninformed on the strife in and around the Osmeden system, I shall relay a message from the leader of my corporation, the Nova Ammo Corporation:
Quote: Recently, Osmeden found itself a hub for low security space. There are many, many advantages to being a corporation or office in Osmeden. In the future one of two things will be happening. The honest corporations around Osmeden will unite and provide an excellent place for business to be conducted or the honest corporations will be required to move operations elsewhere as a result declining casual traffic, declining purchaser traffic (who will risk getting podded to buy what we sell), declining recruiting traffic and a loss of our resource systems (Adacyne, Maut and the resulting low security areas).
Already, Orvolle has become a veritable warzone. High pirate traffic has forced many Osmeden based corporations to open offices further into Empire space to keep their newer members from being killed on their way to headquarters. A single jump from Orvolle virtually guarantees not only loss of ship and cargo but being podded by pirate corporations such as DRUFF and COW. Many times in the past two weeks a jump into or through Orvolle has proven fatal, in particular at the gate leading to Osmeden.
Recently, player pirates from surrounding systems have been witnessed freely attacking CONCORD and Gallente Navy ships in Osmeden... and winning. Player pirates have been looting floating canisters after scattering Osmeden mining teams and have discovered that camping the gate into Osmeden (in Orvolle) is a sure-fire way to collect valuable loot from players running missions and shipping goods into Osmeden. This should make any corporation with interests in Osmeden take note and action.
We run a VERY real risk of losing Osmeden as a good place to house our corporations and conduct our business. As the CEO of a company founded in and always headquartered in Osmeden I don't particularly want to see DRUFF, COW and the smaller, lesser-known but still valid pirate corporations take our system.
I am recommending that the honest and motivated corporations with interests in Osmeden and the surrounding systems band together in an alliance to make our corner of space profitable for us, friendly for outside (honest) corporations and extremely dangerous for pirates and griefers. I do NOT propose open war. I do NOT propose political structure which would detract from the corporations involved. I do, however, propose that we form an honest alliance to help each corporation involved. Pirates are united by their goal, to kill as many ships as possible before logging. While they are not intentionally cooperating the effect is that every corporation within their realm is effected negatively in exact proportion to the amount of pirates and pirate corporations active. How much greater would Osmeden be if when someone was attacked, all that was required was a message in an EVE channel stating this. Security Officers from all over the alliance who were available to respond could do so and gain valuable PvP experience. Or if a mining team finished their mining chores and needed someone to haul their minerals. For a cut of the minerals that team should have a place to request help from someone trustworthy.
The Osmeden Alliance must be formed if Osmeden is to remain a profitable venture. I am currently organizing the Alliance project but will turn all responsibilities over to a committee of intelligent, level-header leaders once the aliance has been formed. I am currently seeking five (5) Founding Member organizations. The CEO or a director of any organization interested should contact S3VYN in-game to reserve a place in the Alliance and to begin scheduling the first meeting to discuss our collective abilities, responsibilities, needs and processes.
The choices are made evident by the rising daily pod count in Orvolle, our only gate to the outside world. Unify... or die.
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |

Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.10 00:36:00 -
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Umm, c0w camped that gate for 1 night, and Druff wouldnt dare go to Orvolle. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.10 00:45:00 -
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Considering that we keep getting podded by both corps, I have to disagree.
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |

Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.10 01:26:00 -
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 ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

Nepereta
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Posted - 2004.01.10 01:50:00 -
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I had spate of similiar problems several months ago when the Knights of Nhi lived in S Heimatar. Firstly keep all talk of an alliance secret, the basis of an alliance is usually local security chat channel, to whom only selected few law abiding corps know about. Do not go marking your corp allegiances all over your corp description. This gives away the game.
You have to strike pirates hard and very quickly with Overwhelming force ( more than 3:1)ideally (5:1) ( since you guys are peaceful miners prob in Megas, Thoraxs, Amrageddons, usually with poor weapon load outs tested largely Cruiser spawns),( they however may well have souped up Ravens and Scorpions, Blackbirds) If ya can't do this I would suggest moving to some nice safe empire space during a quiet time(there is still alot of it).
I would suggest using someone as bait as they love to pod and kill! Do not talk on local, just keep chatting in your gang, Run cold and silent. No posturing or smak talk is the equal of driving them out or killing their ships or claiming their pods.
How you defeat them from here I have no suggestions other than to look at some of the other forums about combat. PvP is full of hard lessons and I can't pretend to have learnt them all. But play to your strengths and enjoy finding out.
Always choose your battles if you do this and be elusive the rest of the time. If you succeed at this then they may eventaully leave for a better hunting ground.
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Treylon
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Posted - 2004.01.10 03:34:00 -
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I was approached by this group of people, and I will offer support when i am able. All i can say is, that i have noticed the pirates in those areas utilize the exploits in the grid to pod ppl within range of sentry guns. If anyone sees this happen report it immediatly.
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Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.10 05:35:00 -
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It's only a matter of time before Osmeden turns into Fountain; fortunately, it's a 0.7 system, but the pirates are getting strong enough to outperform CONCORD fleets. The main culprits include Ifrit and Valfaris of Druff und Weg Holdings, who ganged up on my Imicus frigate in Armageddons while I was passing through Oulley. Fortunately, the alliance has already rounded up three member corporations (mine and two that shall remain anonymous) with more on the way. Anyone who has interests in Osmeden, or wishes to rid EVE of malevolent pirates, head to eve.lividandgifted.com for more information on our corp and the alliance.
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |

e107
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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: e107 on 10/01/2004 11:49:25 I find this very amusing, our prey is trying to organize :)
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un5een
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Posted - 2004.01.10 12:00:00 -
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try to keep your clones alive...  ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one!
G |

Treylon
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Posted - 2004.01.10 14:15:00 -
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May i remind you that killing ppl in .5 sec space and above is considerd exploiting.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.01.10 16:14:00 -
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No its not. Killing in 1.0 space is considered exploiting. Killing in anything above 0.5 is just hard becuase of uber concord.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |

Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.10 18:28:00 -
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c0w has not killed people in .7 ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.10 18:32:00 -
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I have to say; Osmeden isnt an amazing system, if you dont like dieing, why not leave the area, think about it. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.10 20:02:00 -
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We have our reasons for remaining in Osmeden. We're staying, and we will not be threatened. Besides, what fun is this game without an element of risk?
Incidentally, my corp leader has received death threats from some pirate groups already Bah, only a matter of time.
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |

Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:01:00 -
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Ok fine if you want a war... How much is Osmeden worth to you? ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:30:00 -
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Quote: We have our reasons for remaining in Osmeden. We're staying, and we will not be threatened. Besides, what fun is this game without an element of risk?
Incidentally, my corp leader has received death threats from some pirate groups already Bah, only a matter of time.
omg im shaking in my little space booties :P
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Sedit
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:33:00 -
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:36:00 -
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I wanna know how much they are gonna pay for us not to shoot them. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Deathsan
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:56:00 -
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lol, i've never seen druff in orvolle, and c0w is rarely there. Doesn't mean it's safe though. :) Nephster still won't let me borrow his voice changer for the Teamspeak server... :( |

Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:02:00 -
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40m a week per corp , of course the details would need to be worked out. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:42:00 -
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Kurenin, let's be honest. We're not paying you anything, and we won't be intimidated. We have no use for Orvolle except at a gateway to other systems, and I know that much of your business lies in the Syndicate region, where similarly we have little interest.
In any case, we are not planning on aggression, but we will respond to attacks. We are just defending our territory. Additionally, while I can't say the exact number of members in this alliance, we easily outnumber your mere eight members. So if you leave us alone we won't pursue the issue, but if you decide to jerk us around, then you'll have to make good use of that Dominix blueprint of yours.
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |

OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:44:00 -
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damn shame i cant get into osmeden.would be fun to make you cry.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.01.11 12:49:00 -
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Nublar post of the month
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.01.12 05:29:00 -
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Alright, as the leader of N.A.C (Nik's corp) I feel it is time to post on this matter.
Since CCP decided to cut off Osmeden and the resulting regions from Empire space pirate corps have turned Orvolle into little more than a war zone. I don't particularly care except for the gate camping.
I proposed to a couple of people, rather casually and only half-seriously that the corporations with intersts in Osmeden should organize to ensure safe travel for ourselves AND for honest corporations wishing to do business with us.
After this proposal, which was only a fun thought, I began to receive threats from the surrounding pirate organizations. This, of course, prompted me to investigate the possibility of an alliance much closer. I mentioned this a bit more to a bit more people and was astounded at the level of interest. It wasn't something I was exactly prepared for, when every corporation I contacted was not only interested but already ready to move on things.
Thanks for the post Nik, I will be getting the official word about this alliance out in the near future. Know, however, that pirates will continue to do what they do best... threaten. They will talk in-game and on these forums about how they are superior and no one can touch them. They are, however, only a part of the loud minority. The silent majority will rise and silence them. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Treylon
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Posted - 2004.01.12 05:40:00 -
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I congratulate you for your efforts, you have also gained my attention. Let us learn from the mistakes of other such alliances formed to rise up against pirates, do not take them on head on. I'm not even sure a large fleet of 30 to 40 battleships is capable of lagging them as many i suspect use the high speed T1 connections or better while they work at CCP...
You defeat pirates by taking their fun away, the first step is to keep ppl and traders from going through there, camp the gates to send msgs to ppl and warn them. Take away the fun of pirating and let them sit at the gates and camp till they pod themselves out of bordom.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:55:00 -
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Druff are not a serious threat.
They warp out of any serious fight and have lost an Apoc in a Domi vs Apoc+Arma fight... twice.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |

Melchom
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Melchom on 12/01/2004 12:03:32 Yes, Druff seems to run every Time when they have to stay and fight CE Killlist |

White Tiger
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:22:00 -
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And if you see Overcopes 1 there don't worry too much...He isn't that tough either. *G*
White Tiger Founding Member and CEO of Tactical Advisory Group
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