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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.01.10 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 11/01/2004 01:40:13 I have made a mistake. and I do apologize to the eve forums and eve players.
It has come to my attention I did not receive the whole story. so I retract what I have said. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.10 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 10/01/2004 09:46:43 I will start at the end of your post and demonstrate your intelligence.
Quote: Flame on trolls.
A troll is someone who posts, asking to be flamed.
Now, be a smart lad, and explain what the last sentence in your post makes you.
OK, NOW ON WITH THE FUN.
ah, the typical CA nooblar, crying when his style is challenged. he wants to play how he wants to play. ANYONE WHO CHALLENGES THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A LARGE ARSE AND EXPLOITS.
this isn't an exploit. god has spoken. when black omega says "we consider it an exploit", you're just disagreeing with god, which is ROOOOFLE.
you want to shoot ships in empire? use weapons that don't cause splash.
hiding military targets within civilians is a dirty lil trick that has been used in warfare for a very long time. you want to fly b-52's over baghdad and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians. use weapons for the task. don't use b-52's. don't use bunker busters. use precise weaponry.
plz quit crying because you suck. plz god plz.
HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.10 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 10/01/2004 12:28:08 I can confirm that the brave soldiers of Black Omega Security have destroyed 3 cruisers belonging to non-combat pilots of Everlasting Vendetta. 1 in Turba, 1 in Emrayur, and 1 in Shemah, I believe.
Quote: I felt the need to expose your dishonor here and show that when Everlasting is out matched and out gunned they result to dishonor by exploiting a game issue
Outgunned? I think not - Golem came to play and I sent him home with his tail between his legs:
http://www.frothy.org/images/omega.jpg
and two of your pilots, Samuranta and ThorTheGreat, spent all day at a safespot in Shemah too scared to attack.
Quote: Further more a note to Joshua, I thought you were supposed to be an uber fighter Josh, We are wondering why you warped to a safe spot when Confronted by another Tempest?
When and where did this happen? If you are talking about the time I undocked in Emrayur and saw Golem, I was in a Rifter. That is the only time I have ever run from a Black Omega Security pilot.
It's quite obvious that this is just more propaganda and, if your pilots had an ounce more sense and a lot more balls, they'd move from their safespot and actually fight us.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.10 09:54:00 -
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Quote: hiding military targets within civilians is a dirty lil trick that has been used in warfare for a very long time
As far as I'm aware, Homo, we haven't used this trick. Not while I've been present in system, at least. There was a period of about 40 minutes where some [PMAS] players were 40-60km from the station in shuttles so they could watch a possible fight but, as expected, the two [OMEGA] pilots just sat at their safespot like they had done all day.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.10 10:01:00 -
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josh I wouldn't believe a word that a Curse Alliance member said anyhow, but the tactic is valid, according to the art of warfare.
i can't be arsed to frown on it. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.10 10:04:00 -
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It's just disappointing that [OMEGA] have done nothing but sit at a safespot for 8 or 9 hours, and, when they realised our mining/trading pilots weren't easy meat, came crying to CCP and the boards with squeals of "EXPLOIT" and tried to spread lies and falsities in order to mask their own weaknesses.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:18:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Homo Erectus on 10/01/2004 09:46:43 you want to fly b-52's over baghdad and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
That comment is a clear violation of forum rules. I am an Iraqi-American and I take great offense to that forum-rule violating comment. If TheReclaimer was banned from game/forums for posting in a locked thread, you should be fed to the lions as well by the same EVE gods you refer to.
It is often tempting to use real-life wars and the politics that created those tragic wars as examples in EVE. But I'll explain the difference to you Homo. In EVE you have a clone-lab to wake up to. In real-life you aren't so lucky....and besides there are Israelis that play this game, as well as Palestinians.... ect. You just don't make references to real-life wars, dummy.
I'm hoping the forum moderators notice this and do the right thing by banning someone who repeatedly quotes the forum rules verbatum while trolling. Oh wait you never troll, sry. Whatever it is you think your doing when trolling... debating?
9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following: The posting of ****ography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned.

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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:31:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: Homo Erectus on 10/01/2004 09:46:43 you want to fly b-52's over baghdad and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
That comment is a clear violation of forum rules. I am an Iraqi-American and I take great offense to that forum-rule violating comment. If TheReclaimer was banned from game/forums for posting in a locked thread, you should be fed to the lions as well by the same EVE gods you refer to.
It is often tempting to use real-life wars and the politics that created those tragic wars as examples in EVE. But I'll explain the difference to you Homo. In EVE you have a clone-lab to wake up to. In real-life you aren't so lucky....and besides there are Israelis that play this game, as well as Palestinians.... ect. You just don't make references to real-life wars, dummy.
I'm hoping the forum moderators notice this and do the right thing by banning someone who repeatedly quotes the forum rules verbatum while trolling. Oh wait you never troll, sry. Whatever it is you think your doing when trolling... debating?
9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following: The posting of ****ography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned.

lol u r sad
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 10/01/2004 17:44:19
Quote: It's just disappointing that [OMEGA] have done nothing but sit at a safespot for 8 or 9 hours, and, when they realised our mining/trading pilots weren't easy meat, came crying to CCP and the boards with squeals of "EXPLOIT" and tried to spread lies and falsities in order to mask their own weaknesses.
{edit i will upload once BT stops disconnecting me every minute } Mercenary | The Azath |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:47:00 -
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I await the uploading with baited breath and a large choc chip cookie.
Frankly, I doubt they will prove much either way.
Everlasting Vendetta does not and never will exploit. I'd rather lose than win by cheating.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:55:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Nirvy on 10/01/2004 17:44:19
Quote: It's just disappointing that [OMEGA] have done nothing but sit at a safespot for 8 or 9 hours, and, when they realised our mining/trading pilots weren't easy meat, came crying to CCP and the boards with squeals of "EXPLOIT" and tried to spread lies and falsities in order to mask their own weaknesses.
{edit i will upload once BT stops disconnecting me every minute }
BT = Iceland ?
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.10 17:56:00 -
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Quote: I await the uploading with baited breath and a large choc chip cookie.
Frankly, I doubt they will prove much either way.
Everlasting Vendetta does not and never will exploit. I'd rather lose than win by cheating.
Hope you are speaking the truth since winning by lame tactics is never fun.
So kudos to you.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.10 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 10/01/2004 19:38:41
Quote: Edited by: Homo Erectus on 10/01/2004 09:46:43 you want to fly b-52's over baghdad and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
Quote: 9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following: The posting of ****ography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned.
Which bit of section 9 did you think he'd broken? He's providing a real-life comparison; he hasn't accused you of any of the above, and he sure as heck hasn't committed any of the above himself.
If it really offends you so greatly, just mentally edit it to the below:
Quote: you want to fly kestrels over Kulheim and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
*edited for /quote marks in wrong place
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.01.10 20:09:00 -
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I personally am not suprised by EV's underhanded combat tactics as shown above. All i can do is hope EV gets some balls and starts to fight fair instead of using the cheap frigate orbit trick. Good luck BOS, hope your corp dies EV.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.10 20:28:00 -
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Quote: I personally am not suprised by EV's underhanded combat tactics as shown above. All i can do is hope EV gets some balls and starts to fight fair instead of using the cheap frigate orbit trick. Good luck BOS, hope your corp dies EV.
I do believe the whole idea of castor was to make frigates more viable. We're just playing the game how it was meant to be played. Its kinda cool though the cost/loss ratio of our friggy squads.
About 10-20 friggies lost= 2-4mil, amount of ark destroyed+clone costs+indies+rare cargo expanders from CA = almost 1 billion.
hehe.
Its not lame, its part of the game 
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.10 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: p0ma on 10/01/2004 20:40:07
Quote: Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 10/01/2004 19:38:41
Quote: Edited by: Homo Erectus on 10/01/2004 09:46:43 you want to fly b-52's over baghdad and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
Quote: 9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following: The posting of ****ography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned.
Which bit of section 9 did you think he'd broken? He's providing a real-life comparison; he hasn't accused you of any of the above, and he sure as heck hasn't committed any of the above himself.
If it really offends you so greatly, just mentally edit it to the below:
Quote: you want to fly kestrels over Kulheim and carpet bomb, and you're ****ed that god says you are at fault for killing civilians.
Under your reasoning it is acceptable to make comparisons of players to such wonderful historical figures as Adolf ******. This is a damn game... and there shouldn't be any need to make references to the constantly occuring atrocities of the real-world. None that offend people anyways....
---------------------------------------- "Cry Exploit and let slip the Dogs of War"
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:01:00 -
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Listen up P0ma, I really doubt you are an Iraqi-American, because if you were, you wouldnt take offense as there was no offense in what Homo said.
This game means to emulate many factors of real life, and one thing it does emulate is war and the morals behind them. In this game, the struggle between the Amarr and the Minmatar sometimes goes violent when Minmatar "Rebels" attack the Amarr, civillian collateral damage incurs and they are lambasted for it. What Homo was doing was pointing out, that in war, in real life war, Armies have long hid their weapons factories and Armies in Urban areas to protect them, the idea behind that is that your enemy wont use large area of effect weapons such as bombs to attack you because they would be killing innocents, much like in WWII, Bosnia, The First Gulf War and the Second Gulf War.
And that above piece of history does translate into this game; you arent allowed to attack and kill innocents without reprecussions in empire controlled space. So if someone was to have civillians fly around their ships, even though a Corporation has a legitimate war with you, they cannot cause the innocents any harm as they are not at war with them, if they do cause harm, CONCORD will take action against their illegal activities.
All Homo was doing was showing a parallel between the rules in Eve and the moral rules in Life.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:14:00 -
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have to say that it`s quite a sneacky tactic but a valid 1, nice 1 ev 
Everlasting Vendetta - Search |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:29:00 -
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Let's not turn this into an equal ops debate, thank you very much.
Black Omega Security have, rightly or wrongly, posted worries about an exploit on the official forum so let's keep it on topic.
I spoke to ThorTheGreat in Kasi earlier and he told me about the incident.
Apparently a [PMAS] shuttle was very close to N'Fran D'Larn's Megathron while ThorTheGreat was engaging him.
This meant ThorTheGreat was unable to use missiles but, according to my corp. mates, an EV blackbird warped in and target-jammed Thor anyway so it didn't change the outcome of the battle to any real effect.
I've yet to speak to the [PMAS] player involved but I doubt there was any prior agreement between ourselves and [PMAS] to offer "protection" in the accused form - I logged on shortly after this incident and did notice they were outside our home station in that system but when I questioned them about it they merely expressed an interested in watching a fight. Their positions at the time were all at least 30km from my position in space.
Thor did mention TIvian posted without the full knowledge of the situation so I'll forgive him his rash accusations of "exploit" and insults about my bravery in battle.
If any of our war enemies have issues about the way we engage battle or have any accusations to fling, please feel free to keep posting this crap.
Everlasting Vendetta prides itself on playing hard but fair and we do not worry about such accusations.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.10 21:39:00 -
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p0ma im German your reference to Adolf has greatly offended me I hope some forum mod bans you
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.10 22:05:00 -
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"I do believe the whole idea of castor was to make frigates more viable. We're just playing the game how it was meant to be played. Its kinda cool though the cost/loss ratio of our friggy squads. "
Yeah, curse WOULD get some frigate squads only we still have our battleships...
AND OF COURSE comparing someone to ****** would break the forum rules you Mussolini Resembelling Stalin-worshipper!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:23:00 -
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p0ma, please don't cry. it will be ok. |

Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.11 00:52:00 -
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Quote: "I do believe the whole idea of castor was to make frigates more viable. We're just playing the game how it was meant to be played. Its kinda cool though the cost/loss ratio of our friggy squads. "
Yeah, curse WOULD get some frigate squads only we still have our battleships...
And so have we. Just some, like you, are to afraid to adapt and not use your precious battleships. 
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:08:00 -
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The only thing you can do is to write petitions. Well, it worked, your formost enemy is going to play world of warcraft instead, thanks to your corp is filled by stinking administrators. Good bye and good riddance.
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Kurvitsa
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:36:00 -
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And qutting your corporation when it under pressure, meaning camped down if only an exploit if Pirates does it, but not if carebears does it.
Don't bother writing a petition, it's WoW for me anyways.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:43:00 -
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I have edited this post with an apology.
I did not receive the whole story.
no excuses....I screwed up. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:32:00 -
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 ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

Kurvitsa
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:43:00 -
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Good bye EV, you can keep this stupid game for yourselves. Others just quit.
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:19:00 -
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and you are? ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

TIvian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 11/01/2004 04:24:26 OMG LOL. whatever...have fun in your new game.
YEP! what can I say....I suck....thats it....I quit too!
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:26:00 -
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Why is it that some people think that the rest of us care if they quit?
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
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