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Dalanoria The-Dark-Legion Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.30 21:56:00 - [1] With the deployable bombs coming out, i forsee a huge spike in cost of these stealth bombers... After hearing testimony of how great this lil bastards are now, im investing in them now so im not paying 25 mill later on... From what i hear, BC'c with great resist are hit for over 8k dmg.I cant wait for the new cov op gangs of the future...Ofcourse low sec gate camps might be to risky.... Can u imagine a fast moving fleet of stealth bombers through 0.0....
hellsknights Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:01:00 - [2] This is the first i hear of these deployable bombs. Can you link the thread mentioning these goodies, or would you be so nice to give us more info on these new weapons. thank you Hells
IHurricane Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:02:00 - [3] Edited by: IHurricane on 30/05/2007 22:02:00 I'd advice you to go over your numbers agen, if you think a BC with good resist, will be hit for 8k of dmg. Anyways, I am looking forward to play with those ships. Edit: If I rember correctly aren't the bombs 0.0 only? --------------------------------------------- There was never a genius, without a tincture of madness - Aristotle
Dalanoria The-Dark-Legion Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:03:00 - [4] Originally by: hellsknights This is the first i hear of these deployable bombs. Can you link the thread mentioning these goodies, or would you be so nice to give us more info on these new weapons. thank you Hells log into sisi...You find 5k people playing with them....
Dalanoria The-Dark-Legion Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:05:00 - [5] Edited by: Dalanoria on 30/05/2007 22:04:13 Originally by: IHurricane Edited by: IHurricane on 30/05/2007 22:02:00 I'd advice you to go over your numbers agen, if you think a BC with good resist, will be hit for 8k of dmg. Anyways, I am looking forward to play with those ships. Edit: If I rember correctly aren't the bombs 0.0 only? I hope they arent just a 0.0 weapon...Id like to test one outside jita IV M-IV
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:05:00 - [6] Bomber test vid Look at this and decide. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Dalanoria The-Dark-Legion Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Bomber test vid Look at this and decide. In response to that...CCP alreay said dmg depends on SIG RADIUS...So small ships can easily avoid being 1 shot...These bombs are meant for BC->Capital radius....A shuttle can tank 1 of these no problem, but a BC will see his shields +half his armor gone...
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:10:00 - [8] Img thread
Dalanoria The-Dark-Legion Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:18:00 - [9] as u can see by the vid, your bomber is also small enough to drop a bomb and tackle the target....And survive...
Bailian Moxtain Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:25:00 - [10] "pirtate" ships?? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Shufo ([email protected]) *- made in Norway -*
Zhaymus Hockhold DEATH'S LEGION Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:40:00 - [11] Edited by: Zhaymus Hockhold on 30/05/2007 22:41:16 The bomb's 20 mil pricetag and 0.0 limitation is definetely going to make it a low sec pwnmobile, you are entirely right (and yes I know no one said that would be) I dunno, it seems more like a tactic for alliance wars than pirating, but hey, I'm probably wrong.
MaxSkywalker x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:07:00 - [12] I just can't see any good things in this new bomb.. They're gonna be annoing as ****, and they're gonna be a nerf to all the drone boats (many gallente ships) .. I sincerely hope this doesnt make it to the revelations patch for god knows what reasons.. - I live of government cheese!
Stakhanov kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:07:00 - [13] I don't see the use of bombs for pirating. Stealth bombers weren't cost effective already , and now each bomb costs 20m... there's no way you can make any profit using those. If anything , they will be used for gatecamp wrecking , but that's antipiracy.
Fallen Elite kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Zhaymus Hockhold Edited by: Zhaymus Hockhold on 30/05/2007 22:41:16 The bomb's 20 mil pricetag and 0.0 limitation is definetely going to make it a low sec pwnmobile, you are entirely right (and yes I know no one said that would be) I dunno, it seems more like a tactic for alliance wars than pirating, but hey, I'm probably wrong. 0.0 Only would be ridiculous. Why make an Anti-blob weapon if you're going to limit it to a small portion of space. What about all the blobs (read, Gate camps) in Lowsec Empire? Why make an anti-blob weapon if you ignore the primary source of blobs. (Note the difference in a 100+ Man Fleet, and 15+ Man Blobs.) Could you imagine how cheap Suicide Bombing a freighter in Jita could become if this gets widespread?
Duck Andcover Don't be Alarmed	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Fallen Elite 0.0 Only would be ridiculous. Why make an Anti-blob weapon if you're going to limit it to a small portion of space. 0.0 only for the time being
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:26:00 - [16] 160 second ROF? Merc Blog
Fallen Elite kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Duck Andcover Originally by: Fallen Elite 0.0 Only would be ridiculous. Why make an Anti-blob weapon if you're going to limit it to a small portion of space. 0.0 only for the time being Lame tbh. =/
Duck Andcover Don't be Alarmed	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Fallen Elite 0.0 only for the time being Lame tbh. =/ We'll see how it pans out I suppose. There's mention in the thread that the bombs are coming out pre-nerfed for fear of the effect they'll have on pvp in the TQ environment. I believe there's also a comment about the possibility of allowing ECM and cap drain bombs in empire space.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.05.31 07:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Bailian Moxtain "pirtate" ships?? Damn, someone beat me to it Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking (despite him stopping it ... ~Liz Kali
Hypatia Iola Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.31 08:32:00 - [20] okay just a silly-assed idea that's not going to happen... why didn't they just give stealth bombers a range/ usage boost for smartbombs, say 20% boost to range/frig level and 7.5% boot to damage along with the 95-100% fitting cost reduction for smartbombs? or even covops cloak and medium bombs with those bonuses? it makes the thing into a stealth BOMBER.... eliminates the damned recalibration time problem, lets them warp in, position, set off a single alpha strike, then cloak and warp out. maybe a firing rate drawback to keep people from just setting off smartbombs and leaving them on. they ALREADY HAVE the modules they need for this ship, i don't get why they won't use them. I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones.
Ache Nas	Posted - 2007.05.31 09:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Dalanoria With the deployable bombs coming out, i forsee a huge spike in cost of these stealth bombers... Happened already, 1 or 2 weeks ago. I have a Nemesis i purchased for about 5-6M about 9 months ago. Put in some buy orders at 8M in Essence as soon as i found out about the bombs. They're listed for 19M now...
Armok	Posted - 2007.05.31 09:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Dalanoria From what i hear, BC'c with great resist are hit for over 8k dmg. the numbers are a little to high, at least mine eagle got hitted for some minor damage (like 200-500ish), the Rokh for about 1000-1300ish damage. so as it is atm on the test-server, the damage-bombs are only useable to get ride of pesky drones.
Woody Barbarian Purple Monkey Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.31 09:53:00 - [23] How are they going to destroy hordes of drones? i thought the damage was dependant on Sig Radius? surely if not much damage is done to cruiser sized ships then drones will hardly be dented? I can see the possibility of a small gang of bombers killing plenty of fighters though. The damage bombs also dont interest that me much, unless you have a large gang of bombers I dont see how they can be much more than an annoyance to BS's especially seeing as how the bombs can be destroyed easily and the ROF is so high. What does interest me though is the energy neut bombs, i can see plenty of paralysed ships falling to these. Also I heard that these are Sig Radius dependant, anyone know if this true? ----- It was once claimed a thousand monkeys bashing on typewriter keyboards will, given enough time, produce the works of Shakespeare - Online Forums are proof this is B*****ks
Duck Andcover Don't be Alarmed	Posted - 2007.05.31 13:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Woody Barbarian How are they going to destroy hordes of drones? i thought the damage was dependant on Sig Radius? surely if not much damage is done to cruiser sized ships then drones will hardly be dented? I can see the possibility of a small gang of bombers killing plenty of fighters though. The damage bombs also dont interest that me much, unless you have a large gang of bombers I dont see how they can be much more than an annoyance to BS's especially seeing as how the bombs can be destroyed easily and the ROF is so high. What does interest me though is the energy neut bombs, i can see plenty of paralysed ships falling to these. Also I heard that these are Sig Radius dependant, anyone know if this true? Since they're supposed to be impossible to target, they'll only be easily destroyed by smartbombs. As for the damage, the target they're claiming is 8k raw damage with max skills, modified by sig radius but not velocity. Also, the game dev forum thread I linked a few replies up has a dev post specifically stating the energy bombs will _not_ be modified by sig radius. I cba to check, but I believe the number for them was something like 1.6k cap drained.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.31 13:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Fallen Elite Originally by: Duck Andcover Originally by: Fallen Elite 0.0 Only would be ridiculous. Why make an Anti-blob weapon if you're going to limit it to a small portion of space. 0.0 only for the time being Lame tbh. =/ Well if they are designed as an anti blob weapon and most of the ridiculously sized blobs do operate in 0.0 then it makes sense to me. I just hope they're careful with these things. they could really be annoying if they don't do them right and balanced. But, i shall place my trust in ccp as always and not complain until we see exactly how they are released. DE
Erfnam Time Cube Syndicate Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.31 14:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Fallen Elite Could you imagine how cheap Suicide Bombing a freighter in Jita could become if this gets widespread? At 20m each, it would take over 20 bombs to drop a freighter. That doesn't count the cost of replacing the cov ops ships. The same number of pilots in Domi's is cheaper. Cov ops ships do not enjoy the same level of insurance coverage. Sales: Capital Ships \| Covetors Delivered - Bulk/Package/BYOM
Woody Barbarian Purple Monkey Squadron	Posted - 2007.06.01 07:58:00 - [27] Cant suicide gank with them mate if they can only be used in 0.0 I can see how these would become extemley annoying for Carriers and such though, imagine 5 or so 20mil isk bombers decloaking nearby and flinging energy neut bombs at ya then re cloaking, you are unable to warp and in jumps the damage dealers, then the only defence you have at 20mil a pop are destroyed as the bombers uncloak again and fling damage bombs at your fighters. Of course this might be complete tosh and as someone said they can be destroyed by SB's, HACs and BC's are still gonna be rendered useless against them if the energy neuts aren't Sig Radius dependant. ----- It was once claimed a thousand monkeys bashing on typewriter keyboards will, given enough time, produce the works of Shakespeare - Online Forums are proof this is B*****ks
Jainyer Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.05 17:37:00 - [28] They are 0.0. only but the damage is emense, they have a 10sec timer on which would give anything less than a bc plenty of time to get away, also you'd have to have a mwd fitted or deploy the bomb whilst moving & aloigned to a warp out point or you'll blow yourself up with your own bomb as it has a 15k range on it. had a good play with one yesterday & i'll definatly invest in one as a gang stumbling accross a gate camp would be funny, but like i said anything less than a bc should get away aslong as it isn't webbed or scrammed & you have to make sure your out of the way when it goes or so will your bomber
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.05 19:23:00 - [29] 10 stealthbombers vs blob nuke them with a variety of different dmg. Drop some ECM and some CAP eating bombs also. Blob of BC-BS = dead. Thx CCP :) Now we gonna see even more blobs b/c a fleet of stealthbombs with bombs is STILL a lot cheaper than a fleet of BC/BS... How about big ships get new guns to hit smaller ships? ______ Originally by: Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner?
Dyavn Ryyre Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.06.05 19:40:00 - [30] Edited by: Dyavn Ryyre on 05/06/2007 19:39:30 Originally by: Jainyer also you'd have to have a mwd fitted or deploy the bomb whilst moving & aloigned to a warp out point or you'll blow yourself up with your own bomb as it has a 15k range on it. Not true. You can easily tank your own bombs to not even break your shields. (If your shield tanking) You know which damage type the bomb is going to do - your opponents don't. Say your using Kinetic Bombs, stack up as much Kinetic resistance as possible and the bomb will barely scratch you. (I saw a video of a Manticore letting his own bomb hit him, and bringing his shields from 100% to maybe 60% at most.) ________________________________________________ Originally by: "Alumion" Welcome to EVE, where many wars are started over forum posts.
Kianwan Caldari The Patriot Society	Posted - 2007.06.05 21:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Icome4u 10 stealthbombers vs blob nuke them with a variety of different dmg. Drop some ECM and some CAP eating bombs also. Blob of BC-BS = dead. Thx CCP :) Now we gonna see even more blobs b/c a fleet of stealthbombs with bombs is STILL a lot cheaper than a fleet of BC/BS... How about big ships get new guns to hit smaller ships? Only problem is the bombs are gonne blow eachother up.
E'lucid	Posted - 2007.06.05 21:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Dyavn Ryyre Edited by: Dyavn Ryyre on 05/06/2007 19:39:30 Originally by: Jainyer also you'd have to have a mwd fitted or deploy the bomb whilst moving & aloigned to a warp out point or you'll blow yourself up with your own bomb as it has a 15k range on it. Not true. You can easily tank your own bombs to not even break your shields. (If your shield tanking) You know which damage type the bomb is going to do - your opponents don't. Say your using Kinetic Bombs, stack up as much Kinetic resistance as possible and the bomb will barely scratch you. (I saw a video of a Manticore letting his own bomb hit him, and bringing his shields from 100% to maybe 60% at most.) ok well i actually tested it so i know how it works & also why would you be tanking in a bomber? just fit a mwd & leg it or align to a warp out point it's not exactly hard & you don't waste midslots
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.06.06 11:57:00 - [33] i think this'll add some fun to the game, after all its another thing to watch out for anyway it'd be nice to see more things like this made for differents parts of pvp --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Rabbitual Ferrier	Posted - 2007.06.06 13:34:00 - [34] Of course deploying the bomb then an interdictor sphere on the other side of a gate would be entertaining. You'd need a scout on the otherside.

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