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        |  Feng Schui
 Minmatar
 The Ninja Coalition
 Phobos Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 03:47:00 -
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 Edited by: Feng Schui on 01/06/2007 04:07:48
 Ok.. to start off.. not an ore thief, never will be.. but, as I am sitting here in some ISK farmer ravens deadspace complex, salvaging wrecks, I was thinking:
 
 Hurricane:
 
 Recon Probe Launcher
 3x Shield Transporters
 3x Salvaging Modules
 1x Medium or Heavy NOS (forgot this (nos the npc battleship while shield transporting)
 
 10MN Afterburner
 10MN Microwarp Drive
 2x Cap Rechargers
 
 3x Cargo Expanders
 1x Nanofiber
 2x Inertial Damps
 
 
 How would that be for some High sec piracy =)
 
 Reasoning:
 
 shield transporters on the battleships & warp disrupting frigs.
 Afterburner for deadspace
 MWD for normal space
 
 
 
 My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
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        |  CrispyKritters
 Caldari
 GoonFleet
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 04:27:00 -
          [2] 
 Edited by: CrispyKritters on 01/06/2007 04:27:10
 Uh......... Did you even read the item descriptions? try that first.
 
 Might also want to search for quickfit
 
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        |  Sojiuro
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 04:50:00 -
          [3] 
 NOT TO THE HURRICANE AHHHH MY EYES!
 
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        |  Feng Schui
 Minmatar
 The Ninja Coalition
 Phobos Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 04:59:00 -
          [4] 
 didn't fit it out in quickfit, as i'm not seriously considering doing it.
 
 item descriptions? please.. do tell.
 
 and yes, to the hurricane =p (its one of the faster battlecruisers, 8 high slots, and good amount of low slots for cargo space + speeding up the ship as well.. kind of off setting the expanders).
 
 this isn't a combat ship, by no means... more like a "grief high sec mission runners" ship.
 
 
 
 My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
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        |  CrispyKritters
 Caldari
 GoonFleet
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 05:39:00 -
          [5] 
 Edited by: CrispyKritters on 01/06/2007 05:38:10
 
  Originally by: Feng Schui didn't fit it out in quickfit, as i'm not seriously considering doing it.
 
 item descriptions? please.. do tell.
 
 and yes, to the hurricane =p (its one of the faster battlecruisers, 8 high slots, and good amount of low slots for cargo space + speeding up the ship as well.. kind of off setting the expanders).
 
 this isn't a combat ship, by no means... more like a "grief high sec mission runners" ship.
 
 
 Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll laugh so hard they hit the self destruct button.
 
 Transfers shield power over to the target ship, aiding in its defense.
 http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/shield/shieldtransporters/medium/default.asp
 
 You'll also need something to prevent them from warping away, something to repair the damage they'll do on your ship, and insurance when concord blows you up.
 
 I've also never really known of a way to fit both an mwd and an afterburner.
 
 cargo expanders? do you expect hi sec mission runners to carry 500m3 of expensive loot?
 
 This could go on. Check some killboards and see what people are fitting
 
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        |  fullmetalpwn
 Death's Legion Academy
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 05:43:00 -
          [6] 
 Please, do fit this and come to the Amarr system area so I can kill you in my Tristan.
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  Originally by: "Alumion" Welcome to EVE, where many wars are started over forum posts.
 
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        |  Feng Schui
 Minmatar
 The Ninja Coalition
 Phobos Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 06:10:00 -
          [7] 
 
  Originally by: CrispyKritters Edited by: CrispyKritters on 01/06/2007 05:38:10
 
  Originally by: Feng Schui didn't fit it out in quickfit, as i'm not seriously considering doing it.
 
 item descriptions? please.. do tell.
 
 and yes, to the hurricane =p (its one of the faster battlecruisers, 8 high slots, and good amount of low slots for cargo space + speeding up the ship as well.. kind of off setting the expanders).
 
 this isn't a combat ship, by no means... more like a "grief high sec mission runners" ship.
 
 
 Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll laugh so hard they hit the self destruct button.
 
 Transfers shield power over to the target ship, aiding in its defense.
 http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/shield/shieldtransporters/medium/default.asp
 
 You'll also need something to prevent them from warping away, something to repair the damage they'll do on your ship, and insurance when concord blows you up.
 
 I've also never really known of a way to fit both an mwd and an afterburner.
 
 cargo expanders? do you expect hi sec mission runners to carry 500m3 of expensive loot?
 
 This could go on. Check some killboards and see what people are fitting
 
 
 
 i'll go ahead and answer these, 1 by 1. Pay attention now
  
 
  Quote: Transfers shield power over to the target ship, aiding in its defense.
 
 
 This setup is for mission runner griefing / pirating. You will be using the shield transporters on the NPC's.
 
 
  Quote: You'll also need something to prevent them from warping away, something to repair the damage they'll do on your ship, and insurance when concord blows you up.
 
 
 This is where warp scrambling frigates come in (these are found in missions). Concord blowing me up? I'm not going to be shooting
  
 
  Quote: I've also never really known of a way to fit both an mwd and an afterburner.
 
 
 Actually, I have one on now. You can't use them at the same time, however, it has its uses. For example:
 
 1) If I am in a deadspace mission area, I use the afterburner (MWD doesn't work, natural interferance or some crap).
 
 2) If it is normal space, its the MWD.
 
 
  Quote: cargo expanders? do you expect hi sec mission runners to carry 500m3 of expensive loot?
 
 
 I'm using 3x Cargo Expander II's atm, 980 m3 cargo. I've had to dock 4 times now to off load abandonned loot.
 
 
 
 My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
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        |  Chode Rizoum
 Minmatar
 Temptation inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 06:13:00 -
          [8] 
 sneaky i must admit...
 
 GJ now go out and try and see if it works
 
 TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
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        |  Valandril
 Caldari
 Leela's Lamas
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 06:18:00 -
          [9] 
 Edited by: Valandril on 01/06/2007 06:17:19
 Isnt assisting npc now giving u aggression ? Since like 143 patch or earlier ?
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 I swear to god, ccp choose changes in game via lottery system.
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        |  Feng Schui
 Minmatar
 The Ninja Coalition
 Phobos Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 06:21:00 -
          [10] 
 not that i recall... i'll check through the notes though. if it is, i'll take my arbitrator out, and instead of a small energy neut, i'll use a small shield transporter.. let em try to lock me and kill me
  
 
 
 My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
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        |  matty01
 Minmatar
 Chaos Reborn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 06:25:00 -
          [11] 
 
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        |  Bruce Torpedo
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 07:04:00 -
          [12] 
 TBH, I'm not sure what you really going to try to do... Shieldboosting npc's??? Well, yeah, it will take probobably 10 sec more to kill such npc. Scrambling npc's? What you are going to do when in most missions there are no scrambling frigs?
 And I really think you might have luck only in lvl1 and lvl2 mission locations lol :)) Cause if for example you would try to do smth to me, when im missioning and you would get flagged, your hurricane would be dead same quickly either im in drake or in raven.
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        |  Damares
 Flying While Intoxicated
 The Threshold
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 11:37:00 -
          [13] 
 
  Originally by: Bruce Torpedo TBH, I'm not sure what you really going to try to do... Shieldboosting npc's??? Well, yeah, it will take probobably 10 sec more to kill such npc. Scrambling npc's? What you are going to do when in most missions there are no scrambling frigs?
 And I really think you might have luck only in lvl1 and lvl2 mission locations lol :)) Cause if for example you would try to do smth to me, when im missioning and you would get flagged, your hurricane would be dead same quickly either im in drake or in raven.
 
 
 his hurricane would be dead if you were in a merlin me thinks....
 
 also, i dont like how anyone in a raven running a complex or doing level 4's is an isk farmer.... it just isnt true...
 
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        |  Cpt Placeholder
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.01 14:43:00 -
          [14] 
 Funny idea, but too flawed.
 Mission runners kill scrambling frigs first.
 You'd have to find him pretty much at the same time he starts the mission.
 Not to mention what would happen if you/your drones catch the attention of some NPC battleships.
 
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        |  INTACTized
 Gallente
 kleptomaniacs
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.02 11:52:00 -
          [15] 
 
  Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 01/06/2007 04:07:48
 Ok.. to start off.. not an ore thief, never will be.. but, as I am sitting here in some ISK farmer ravens deadspace complex, salvaging wrecks, I was thinking:
 
 Hurricane:
 
 Recon Probe Launcher
 3x Shield Transporters
 3x Salvaging Modules
 1x Medium or Heavy NOS (forgot this (nos the npc battleship while shield transporting)
 
 10MN Afterburner
 10MN Microwarp Drive
 2x Cap Rechargers
 
 3x Cargo Expanders
 1x Nanofiber
 2x Inertial Damps
 
 
 How would that be for some High sec piracy =)
 
 Reasoning:
 
 shield transporters on the battleships & warp disrupting frigs.
 Afterburner for deadspace
 MWD for normal space[/quote
 
 Are you serious?
 Is this a joke?
 ---Sig---
 Before I put some crap in here I rather write it above.
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        |  Corwain
 Gallente
 Zero Team
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.06.02 14:47:00 -
          [16] 
 You might kill 1-2 morons with this setup, buuut
 
 Shield transporters have a max range of like 5000m, BSes orbit at like 40km typically, frigs orbit at 5000m. Thus you're never gonna be able to shield transport more than 1 BS or a few scrambling frigs which can often be taken out with alpha strikes so repping doesn't really help.
 
 Not all NPCs shield tank, not all missions have scrambling frigs.
 
 It takes like 5-10BSes to break a mission runners tank, and it usually takes a LONG time even then. Mission runners run perma-tanks usually except for a few gank-raven setups.
 
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