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Andromeda1	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:06:00 - [1] Do people use passive armour hardners over active armour hardners now? on ratting ships and on pvp?
Tazerz2 Gallente Information Science Security	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:09:00 - [2] From what I know, it depends solely on how cap-intensive their setup is and whether an active hardener is needed over a passive one. For instance, if the rats aren't that hard hitting, you may favour a passive hardener over an active one if your tank is mostly reps and maybe you're using hybrid/energy turrets, therefore you want as much cap conservation as possible. Though, everything I've just said may need citing
Moraguth Amarr Rangers	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:24:00 - [3] Well, I can't say what "people in general" do, but I can tell you what I do. I always fly an apoc. 2 armor reps and 3 hardeners. everything else is a cap mod or a gun. sometimes i throw in an AB for fun. good game
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:27:00 - [4] on my enyo i use a resistance plate (not even energized plate) purely due to fitting constraints if i want that second magstabII ;) it still gives me enough resistance, so no worries "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
Andromeda1	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:31:00 - [5] I missed a little bit out of my question what i mean is do people use passive hardners over active hardners because of the compsention skills.
Makhan	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:32:00 - [6] I beleive you mean "armor". Personally I prefer passive tanking though.
Solomunio Kzenig Amarr Ordo Ministorum	Posted - 2007.06.03 17:42:00 - [7] As has been mentioned above, its really a question of your Cap usage, personally i use a passive tank, i need every ounce of Cap for lasers and repping. One Empire, One People, One Emperor, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
Inquisitus	Posted - 2007.06.03 18:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Not if you speak real English (i.e. not American English) __________________ Live forever, apes.
Vana Gank Gallente Nosferatu Security Foundation	Posted - 2007.06.03 19:22:00 - [9] WTB: Passive Armor Regeneration Flux I -------------------------- Please adjust the map, please. Im not clever enough to figure out which way to fly.
Spartaen	Posted - 2007.06.03 19:27:00 - [10] Edited by: Spartaen on 03/06/2007 19:26:39 Originally by: Inquisitus Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Not if you speak real English (i.e. not American English) lol pwnt and i believe you mean 'believe'
Marquis Dean Demise and Vestige 9th Fleet	Posted - 2007.06.03 19:47:00 - [11] Originally by: Spartaen Edited by: Spartaen on 03/06/2007 19:26:39 Originally by: Inquisitus Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Not if you speak real English (i.e. not American English) lol pwnt and i believe you mean 'believe' Utterly pwned. --- Originally by: Galack Fyar Burn in a hole
Pwn4ge P4nts Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:46:00 - [12] Amour is what happens when the daddy and mommy ships love each other very much
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.03 21:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Pwn4ge P4nts Amour Quote: Armour Quote: Armor TIME PARADOX Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:27:00 - [14] It depends on how tight your CPU is, and if you want to have your tank shut off if you get nossed dry.
Asa Gunnarsson Caldari ACCORD Industries North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Inquisitus Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Not if you speak real English (i.e. not American English) I speak real english (American) and I still spell it armour, honour, colour... just because some sphincterhats don't know how to spell is no reason to insult an entire culture.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Asa Gunnarsson Originally by: Inquisitus Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Not if you speak real English (i.e. not American English) I speak real english (American) and I still spell it armour, honour, colour... just because some sphincterhats don't know how to spell is no reason to insult an entire culture. Now now, be proud of your heritage! We English speak English English, and Americans speak American English. Nothing wrong with that, I'm sure. Just that our way is the original, and thus automatically best --------
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:32:00 - [17] Armoire? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Marquis Dean Demise and Vestige 9th Fleet	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Asa Gunnarsson sphincterhats wtf is a 'sphincterhat'??? --- Originally by: Galack Fyar Burn in a hole
Miriyana Gallente Galactic Savings and Investments	Posted - 2007.06.04 00:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Asa Gunnarsson sphincterhats wtf is a 'sphincterhat'??? Same as an ass hat - i.e. someone who has their head in their ass and doesnt know **nit - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems**
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This	Posted - 2007.06.04 10:35:00 - [20] Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". Personally I prefer passive tanking though. No, 'armour' is how it's spelled... just so you know, not everyone lives where you do... shocking, I know.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.06.04 10:42:00 - [21] Brits are just cheating at Scrabble imo. ------------------- Say What?
Deacon Ix Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:06:00 - [22] Another thing to take into account is the Ship Boni, on a Myrmidon the tank bonus is 7.5%/lvl to armor reps (ingame spelling) so to best make use of this I use passive hardners and have all the cap being used by Armour reppers (English spelling). I generally use the Myrmidon (BC 5) as a Mining Tank/Gang Bonus and can continously run 3 t2 MARs without NOS. Haven't found a standard NPC spawn that can break it. Big flaws with that system is that a concentrated burst of damage can knock thu the Armour mid cycle and OC NOS/neuts are the major bain.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Deacon Ix Boni You realise that's not actually a word right? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Beer is my religion. Guinness is my God.
Voodoo Mistross Minmatar KickAssCrew DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:32:00 - [24] I prefer active hardeners, as long as you got the cap, of course
Deacon Ix Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:34:00 - [25] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Deacon Ix Boni You realise that's not actually a word right? word:- a unit of language that native speakers can identify you understood what I ment... either -es or -i is correct, I just prefer the Latin -i. Similar words such as octopus have both plurals listed as correct, so it's your choice.
Riho Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.06.04 11:35:00 - [26] depends.... when i fly plated ships whit lots of HP i use passive because i dont have meny slots left to put 3x hardeners :P active tanking ships (reppers and stuff) what hapens to better :P myrm = active hardeners :) astarte = active and passive etc --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog -----------------
Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.06.04 12:29:00 - [27] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Deacon Ix Boni You realise that's not actually a word right? /me sings "My boni is over the ocean...."
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.06.04 12:39:00 - [28] Edited by: Aioa on 04/06/2007 12:40:13 Originally by: Makhan I beleive you mean "armor". :D Edit: Just run along and watch some Nascar, you complete and utter cretin.
Jadiin Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.06.04 12:49:00 - [29] Isn't it bonnie? And wow this thread went off the rails.
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.04 13:35:00 - [30] The Oxford English Dictionary uses 'bonuses' and quite frankly there are few higher authorities when it comes to the English language than the OED, so 'bonuses' it is. :P Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.04 13:51:00 - [31] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 04/06/2007 13:51:58 Originally by: Deacon Ix Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Deacon Ix Boni You realise that's not actually a word right? word:- a unit of language that native speakers can identify you understood what I ment... either -es or -i is correct, I just prefer the Latin -i. Similar words such as octopus have both plurals listed as correct, so it's your choice. Yes I understood your meaning, so I shouldn't complain too much. It just sounds funny. Add to that the fact that it actually isn't correct if you check the dictionary. Bonus isn't a latin word. Edit: by the way, check out the definition of a word in group and ring theory. Your head will explode . -------------------------------------------------------------------- Beer is my religion. Guinness is my God.
Deacon Ix Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.04 14:15:00 - [32] Edited by: Deacon Ix on 04/06/2007 14:17:16 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 04/06/2007 13:51:58 Originally by: Deacon Ix Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Deacon Ix Boni You realise that's not actually a word right? word:- a unit of language that native speakers can identify you understood what I ment... either -es or -i is correct, I just prefer the Latin -i. Similar words such as octopus have both plurals listed as correct, so it's your choice. Yes I understood your meaning, so I shouldn't complain too much. It just sounds funny. Add to that the fact that it actually isn't correct if you check the dictionary. Bonus isn't a latin word. Edit: by the way, check out the definition of a word in group and ring theory. Your head will explode . lol - I have seems to be very devided I use boni (even though it may sound presumptious) as I prefere not to sound like a leaking gas main and it stops spittle from going all over the person I'm talking to (no comments, I have had half my face sewn back on) back on topic passive or active resistances do depend on what your preference is, I prefere passive as then I can concentraite all my cap on one thing ie. repping some peeps mix - in PvP for example some peeps use plate and active as it just needs to take alot of damage over a short time (esp if concentrating on gank) where as in PvE generally it is less instantanious dmg but over a longer period. basically there is no 'correct' way just find your style but don't set it in stone, other ways can be just as effective. to answer the query about the resistance skills - they are very useful, esp if passive; but can be a life saver if you run out of cap on an active tank, I have trained all up to lvl 4 - but again its all personal preference.
cyboman	Posted - 2007.06.04 14:33:00 - [33] Click Please! I think the train went the wrong way.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 14:49:00 - [34] Originally by: cyboman Click Please! I think the train went the wrong way. This could be a rather dull thread about armour module balancing, or it could be this clearly awesome thread. I think we've made the right decision --------
Deacon Ix Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.04 15:00:00 - [35] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: cyboman Click Please! I think the train went the wrong way. This could be a rather dull thread about armour module balancing, or it could be this clearly awesome thread. I think we've made the right decision hehe
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.06.04 15:07:00 - [36] England and America are two countries seperated by a common language. The latin is often dropped these days, especially for modern words. An example is that the plural of "virus" can be "virii" when applied to the animal version, but is correctly "viruses" when referring to the computer version. Oh, and to answer the OP, I passive armour tank. ------------------------------------- Hold my calls and sack my cook -------------------------------------
Maxpie Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.06.04 15:12:00 - [37] I"m tired of these language discrepancies. I vote we change the official Eve language to ancient Greek. He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things.
Drizit Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.04 17:02:00 - [38] Edited by: Drizit on 04/06/2007 17:02:28 Damnation. Low T2 repper, cap recharger, 3 named active and a T2 damage mod. Mid T2 AB, named Webber, 2 named cap rechargers CPU maxed out with the guns and missiles as well. Along with a T1 cap recharge rig and my cap levels out at 30% with everything running as well as guns/missiles. The only time I had trouble is with lvl3 Blockade when everything fired at me at once. The T2 repper couldn't keep up. Every other mission I can sit and tank everything without even firing a shot back. Go make coffee and take a leisurely stroll back to my seat and kill them all to end the mission. Edit: spelling. --
Drizit Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.04 17:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Brits are just cheating at Scrabble imo. Look who's talking. GeneraliSe with an S not GeneraliZe, socialiZe and many others like it. Just so you can use the high scoring Z tile. Now who's cheating at scrabble? --

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