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Vodka Neat Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 17:46:00 - [121] I am confused but happy. I know one way or another I'll get to shoot somebody after this gets sorted. Why are you still reading? Its over. Continue to the next post.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.07 17:47:00 - [122] Sorry to interrupt the constant worthless quotenaught, but what actually got stolen?
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.06.07 17:51:00 - [123] Hey, If your going to steal stuff can I have it? It would go good with the missing Xetic minerals and Stolen ASCN Funds I have!Oh and on the QT if everyone is Sirmolle and DBP am I still foyle's Alt? --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Kar Strike Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.07 17:54:00 - [124] Originally by: Star Wolf It's just a game... Is that why you're getting to worked up about it? Cheer up, kid. You're space rich now.
Charly Quickfire STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 17:54:00 - [125] Originally by: Star Wolf ...and it's only a game. I really wonder what people like you mean by "it is just a game". If I rob the account of my football team, I have to face the consequences. Either by my team mates or by officials. It won't help to say "come on, it is just a game". It is a flaw of EVE Online that CCP either cannot fix or is not willing to, that people like you can do what you did, without facing serious consequences. I am in STK for just 1 week now. I didn't mine for the stuff you destroyed. I didn't put in time for the projects you cancelled. If I were you, I would be very happy if noone, that you just massivly stabbed in the back, knows where you live and does not accept an argument like "it is just a game" as excuse for being a thief. Even if your accusations are/were true, that is no justification for your actions.
Yulada Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:02:00 - [126] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:10:00 - [127] I would be cool if STK can inform the general public the guy corp thief chars... "I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!" -Culex (SMRPG)
Helen STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:11:00 - [128] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: Orange Species I am Helen! No Iam Helen!
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:18:00 - [129] Really the idea of anyone in STK being a BoB alt, especially Helene is just insane. I can't see where anyone would get such a ridiculous idea. Its this kinda of baseless speculation, which has to stop if COAD is to become worth posting in again.
Helen STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:20:00 - [130] The list repeated Star Wolf (with a space) Ammorosia Lobo Mahar Ima ***** (non-STK alt) If you require more info as its likely he'll sell/destroy these characters and buy a new set of characters please ask.
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:21:00 - [131] love your phrase stk stand united the other dude stands alone. EX-DICE CEO EX-ATUK Director EX-MACE CEO EX-Xanadu Officer
Joram McRory Caldari Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:22:00 - [132] Edited by: Joram McRory on 07/06/2007 18:21:40 Originally by: Star Wolf Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 17:46:24 Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 17:44:53 Originally by: Kalkin84 Starwolf: go play wow, and be very glad i live no where near you. This is exactly what I'm talking about, it's just a game. Anytime a game effects you in a way that you would threaten someone, you need to stop playing and get help. This is not healthy for you. It's just a game... Star Ok, so I choose to spend my limited leisure time to play a make believe spaceship game. I spend hours slaving over my mining barge, or doing countless jumps moving stuff around so I can make pretend spaceships. At the end of all this I have some make believe assets that, for me, represtent the product of all that time. Or, I decide to spend my limited leisure time to work hours of overtime. I take all the extra money I have made and buy something shiny. Now, If some pikey, theiving, scum of the earth, lowlife **er decides to steal either of them please explain why I should value one above the other. In both instances I have spent my time to get somthing, which the ****** has taken. You Sir are scum, you are the bottom feeder of the human race, dung is too good for you to eat and you should be drowned in the urine of a thouand goats. Joram My Photography site
Vladimir Tinakin Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:25:00 - [133] On behalf of HDY, our sympathies for your situation. I hope nothing irreplaceable was taken besides the hard work and time you guys put in. Knowing a little of what you do, however, I know the loss of the construction projects and components/minerals is a hard blow in and of itself. To the OP: I'd stay out of lowsec or nulsec for a while...a long while. The odds of a mom getting dropped on your head out of the blue(black?) just went up exponentially. If you knew anything about STK, you know they're not the type to forget about this. ----------------------------------------------- Adm Vladimir Tinakin CFO Hadean Drive Yards
Snow Monkey STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:44:00 - [134] I'm Spartacus/BoB/The Monkey etc.
Star Wolf STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:46:00 - [135] Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 18:50:26 Originally by: Charly Quickfire If I rob the account of my football team, I have to face the consequences. Either by my team mates or by officials. It won't help to say "come on, it is just a game".[/qoute] Aaah, right, you're comparing real life with a game. Let me see if I can answer this one...real life has real life consequences, and game only has virtual consequences. Does this really have to be explained and if so, please get help because your reality has been warped into one wrong life. Originally by: Charly Quickfire It is a flaw of EVE Online that CCP either cannot fix or is not willing to, that people like you can do what you did, without facing serious consequences. Agree with you completely, this should not be able to happen. Oh wait, CCP does have game mechanics that stop this very thing. Locking bpos, hangar access, If you want more than that, don't yell at me, have CCP change the game mechanics.
Sku1ly STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 18:46:00 - [136] There is no Helen in STK. STK-S
acompton Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:02:00 - [137] So you are going to sell the thieved items and then return the proceeds to the rest of STK that isn't 'BoB alts' right? Corporate thieves are < pond scum. You weakly rationalize your actions based on fantasies about Helen, but the actions mostly hurt the guys down in the trenches who worked hard to help build the corp.
Joram McRory Caldari Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:02:00 - [138] Edited by: Joram McRory on 07/06/2007 19:01:38 Originally by: Star Wolf Agree with you completely, this should not be able to happen. Oh wait, CCP does have game mechanics that stop this very thing. Locking bpos, hangar access, If you want more than that, don't yell at me, have CCP change the game mechanics. OMG you are stupid as well as a scum sucking thief. A gun has the capability to fire, but who takes the blame if someone is killed - the shooter or the gun manufacturer. Sorry mate but "it is possible therefor it is not my fault" is a **** argument. Joram My Photography site
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:04:00 - [139] This is like watching a car crash in slow motion, not a pretty sight. I think the OP is talking out of his rear as I know Trev from my time in ASCN to be one of the few decent honest players I met there, he went out of his way for me numerous times. And I'm the real Helen.
Star Wolf STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:21:00 - [140] Originally by: Joram McRory OMG you are stupid as well as a scum sucking thief. A gun has the capability to fire, but who takes the blame if someone is killed - the shooter or the gun manufacturer. Sorry mate but "it is possible therefor it is not my fault" is a **** argument. Why make the ships fly when we can just sit in the station and pretend to shoot people. Game mechanics are put in place to make the game fun and to protect the players, if you don't use them, YOU ARE PARTLY AT FAULT. Saying that mismanagement is not a problem, then why have directors in the first place. They're there to protect the assets of the corp. I think 100 B worth of assets is worth trying to lock down. Star
Charly Quickfire STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:41:00 - [141] Originally by: Star Wolf Aaah, right, you're comparing real life with a game. Let me see if I can answer this one...real life has real life consequences, and game only has virtual consequences. Does this really have to be explained and if so, please get help because your reality has been warped into one wrong life. You are obviously incapable to see that it does not matter where people put their time into, either e.g. playing football, playing EVE, working double shifts to buy a better car, whatever. Seems as if you are the one to decide which is right and what is not. However I hope you are fine that I do not accept advise from you. Originally by: Star Wolf Agree with you completely, this should not be able to happen. Oh wait, CCP does have game mechanics that stop this very thing. Locking bpos, hangar access, If you want more than that, don't yell at me, have CCP change the game mechanics. Again being stupid as hell. I acknowledge corp theft, infiltration, spying, etc. as part of the game, all fine. But there are no ways to punish you. CCP will do nothing. You will just sell your chars or play solo or join a corp who doesn't care. No way to sue you, no way to send you to prison, no way of any serious consequences as you deserve it. Anyway, argueing with an *******...
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:46:00 - [142] Star Wolf perhaps its time to delete the eve-o bookmark from your browser to avoid embarassing yourself any further. - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
Stockarian eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.07 19:47:00 - [143] You "star wolf" are obviously delusional if you even think, much less say it's ccp's fault you took the bpo's, etc. I have to agree with Joram, you sir are scum. As an interesting side note, Virt is dbp, seleene, molle, helen, and 2/3's of the rest of eve's populace. Don't you people pay attention, Virt is everywhere. To save time, why don't you avoid the facts and get right to the spin.
Joram McRory Caldari Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:17:00 - [144] Edited by: Joram McRory on 07/06/2007 20:17:15 Originally by: Star Wolf Originally by: Joram McRory OMG you are stupid as well as a scum sucking thief. A gun has the capability to fire, but who takes the blame if someone is killed - the shooter or the gun manufacturer. Sorry mate but "it is possible therefor it is not my fault" is a **** argument. Why make the ships fly when we can just sit in the station and pretend to shoot people. Game mechanics are put in place to make the game fun and to protect the players, if you don't use them, YOU ARE PARTLY AT FAULT. Saying that mismanagement is not a problem, then why have directors in the first place. They're there to protect the assets of the corp. I think 100 B worth of assets is worth trying to lock down. Star Actually as an IT guy I am quite confident in asserting that a lot of the functionality in ths particular piece of software is there because "it was easier to do it this way", "it's the 80:20 rule", "oh! sht we never thought of that", or "oh dear - that is going to take an age to fix, sod it lets call it a feature" and not "put in place to make the game fun and to protect the players". On to the crux of the matter though. In games, in sport and in life there are many choices that people can make about how they conduct themselves. In all of those fields it is possible to lie, cheat, and hurt people. The morale argument is not "can I?" but "should I". It could be that CCP have indeed made a deliberate choice to leave the capability to do wrong in the game; it might be some compliated psycological experiment to establish what percentage of the population are scum; it might be that they think by giving people the chance to act like***s in-game they might get it out of their system; or i might just be because it's easier that way. which ever way you cut it, it is a morale choice, and you made the wrong one. Sorry to everyone else for labouring the point here, but I really do hate thieves* Joram My Photography site
Ace Frehley Minmatar Fist of the Empire FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:22:00 - [145] I stand naked, you stand alone.. Btw if what you now say is true you still suck, cuz even if you don¦t like mr Bob maybe rest of the corp does, but you don¦t know that??? Don¦t let your fear cloud your judgement, fear leads to hate, that leads to suffering, wich leads to the dark side _______________________________________________ Beer, Eve and no shaved babes!!! is that oki then? My slogans always gets nerfed \o/ Oh a new one: Beer, eve and play neekid!!
Kalkin84 STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:24:00 - [146] Originally by: Star Wolf Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 17:46:24 Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 17:44:53 Originally by: Kalkin84 Starwolf: go play wow, and be very glad i live no where near you. This is exactly what I'm talking about, it's just a game. Anytime a game effects you in a way that you would threaten someone, you need to stop playing and get help. This is not healthy for you. It's just a game... Star I have spent hundreds of US RL dollars, and literally weeks of my time working (not playing) to make progress for myself and my corp in this "game." As i figure it, you now owe me 4 months of your life outside of work. how would you care to pay? my RL services run $60/hour, and i spend between 4-6 hours a day playing... thats not cheap. Or who could mission ***** to make the isk to pay not only me, but every single member of stk restitution for your little stunt. You owe us all, and more than an apology, and again, you should be on your knees thanking every god anyone anywhere believes in that this planet is large enough to seperate us... I trusted you, and don't take to calmly to my trust being abused. run and hide you pathetic little louse.
Star Wolf STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:26:00 - [147] Edited by: Star Wolf on 07/06/2007 20:25:15 Originally by: Joram McRory Actually as an IT guy I am quite confident in asserting that a lot of the functionality in ths particular piece of software is there because "it was easier to do it this way", "it's the 80:20 rule", "oh! sht we never thought of that", or "oh dear - that is going to take an age to fix, sod it lets call it a feature" and not "put in place to make the game fun and to protect the players". On to the crux of the matter though. In games, in sport and in life there are many choices that people can make about how they conduct themselves. In all of those fields it is possible to lie, cheat, and hurt people. The morale argument is not "can I?" but "should I". It could be that CCP have indeed made a deliberate choice to leave the capability to do wrong in the game; it might be some compliated psycological experiment to establish what percentage of the population are scum; it might be that they think by giving people the chance to act like****s in-game they might get it out of their system; or i might just be because it's easier that way. which ever way you cut it, it is a morale choice, and you made the wrong one. Sorry to everyone else for labouring the point here, but I really do hate thieves First, my post from the very beginning mentions greed, I am not saying I'm not at fault. I took the stuff, no question. It's like this, if I watch a baby crawling toward a fire, should I just let them do it, or put a gate to keep him from doing. Am I at fault if it enters the fire. Sure I am, because I could have done somehting that prevented it. That was not done here. Second, it goes back to most people play games to escape reality and by doing so would do things in life that they normally would not do. That's part of playing a game, being able to act out something or someone that is not you. If this was real life, there are a lot things most people would never do, but do online. Star
StarSearcher STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:36:00 - [148] Originally by: Star Wolf Second, it goes back to most people play games to escape reality and by doing so would do things in life that they normally would not do. That's part of playing a game, being able to act out something or someone that is not you. If this was real life, there are a lot things most people would never do, but do online. Star Since you opened the RL pandora box... I believe the large majority of people don't role play much in Eve. I've never ever seen you try to role play anything while you were here. Basically - I choose to not believe you've decided to role play a bad guy. I believe you have showed us your "true face" - and let the dark side of your personality take over. Or said more straight forward: This would have affected my views on you personally if I knew you.
Fortior STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:38:00 - [149] Originally by: Star Wolf It's like this, if I watch a baby crawling toward a fire, should I just let them do it, or put a gate to keep him from doing. Am I at fault if it enters the fire. Sure I am, because I could have done somehting that prevented it. That was not done here. Second, it goes back to most people play games to escape reality and by doing so would do things in life that they normally would not do. That's part of playing a game, being able to act out something or someone that is not you. If this was real life, there are a lot things most people would never do, but do online. Nope, you didn't. More like you cut the arms off of the baby and left it, keeping the arms to sell to lowlifes. Very true, games are supposed to allow things you can't usually do. However, what you do in games reflect your real life character. I hope people around you realize what sort of person you are, but also hope that you're better than what you've shown here. I have little hope though....
Feek STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.07 20:38:00 - [150] It's all very well to say that there are mechanics in game to prevent this sort of thing but it's not as open and shut as that. If a pilot has been a member of a corp for a long time and has earned the trust of the existing management then realistically there's very little the corp can do if that person decides to 'go bad' because he doesn't like what he's seeing, or as it seems to be in this case, because he fancies a change in career. Star Wolf earned trust in STK and was given access to certain things. It's that trust that he has abused to steal the items he has done so. He's said in this thread that he's laughing at everyone. Well, that's the kind of person he's become, one who happily steals, tries to cover it up with the BS in the original post and then boasts and laughs about it. Game mechanics can't protect against that. Game mechanics can protect against some theft, but not everything. Star Wolf has claimed Helen is a BoB infiltrator, a claim that's been denied heavily in this thread. He claims Helen is manufacturing Capital ships for BoB. Funny that - All Capitals I'm aware of have gone internally to STK. Even the Aeon that Helen flew was destroyed by MC. This claim is utter garbage. If STK were making Capitals for BoB then surely it would be safer to do it in BoB space. Star Wolf is proud of stopping our MS projects. These projects have cost billions and billions of ISK and taken months and months of hard work and dedication by very few dedicated people. I find it utterly repulsive that somebody can actually be proud of this and it shows what sort of a character that he actually is, although he's obviously a good actor as he has taken us all in for so long. He himself was a member of the team that did the work. Star Wolf has claimed that STK has an open movement towards BoB but has been unable to show a single scrap of evidence supporting this. He's claimed he destroyed our Capital programme to stop more Capitals falling into BoB hands but has no evidence that any have already gone that way. He is very fond of saying "it's only a game". That's correct but Joram has already covered that better than I can. I suggest people scroll back and read his post. Star Wolf is a corp thief, it's as simple as that. He's stolen a lot but STK will recover from it. He's claimed to have stolen around one hundred billion ISK. I don't know how much exactly was taken, that may or may not be an accurate figure. We're better off without him. We stand united, you stand alone. --

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