Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.01.13 12:36:00 -
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I do not understand the big stink about the 50% cut to CDI. You dont like the offer? Go find your own.
All you have to know how to do is use a map. User a scanner. Use your brain.
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OKay so let me get this straight... You think that the people mining in venal are only mining and doing nothing else. ANd the other corps (jericho faction???) were expected to go protect it? Um Muad Dib is the only person from Jericho that I have ever seen in Venal proper in a fighting ship.
Secondly, I see Kia-Rona, Rona, Blade Runners, Gods, CDI, Oberon etc mining there. KIA and Blade runners are the most two actively PvP corps in the alliance. Jericho is dead last on the list. What exactly are you talking about?
(And trade information? Never recieved any of that). ANd I would actually like to see some Ayes from people that did recieve this godsend.
I'm afraid these two posts really sum up a lot that was wrong with the NVA.
First off, not that long ago at all JF gave CDI information that one of their most trusted directors was about to betray them and clear out their wallet and corp hangars. Even though relations between CDI and JF were at absolute rock bottom and close to open war, JF gave CDI that information. In return CDI continued to protect the identity of someone who had passed on private information from our corp and also came up with the laughable deal that if they gave us information on a place where we could grid-exploit-mine (a loophole that I hope is closed soon in any case). The fact that they existed was known long before CDI told us, and is the (not that great) effort of finding them worth 50% of everything that we might mine there (on our own, we're not talking about joint ops) worth? I think not. I would consider it a grossly insulting offer from an enemy corp, never mind an 'ally'. Whilst I think there was a certain amount of bridge burning going on in that log from Jade, quite how such an offer can be considered a reasonable one I don't understand.
On the second post - funny how you only list the corps right in the north of Venal and not a single mention of any of the Pure Blind corps - many of whom were fighting every day. The use of the word 'proper' is very revealing as it your attitudes. It's interesting that these same corps were the ones that formed TiNA between themselves and that none of the southern corps are listed. My impression (and I was not alone in this) was that your attitude was shared by a number of corps in the north. They can claim that they can only go by what they see, and therein lies the problem.
The people that will be leading TiNA are the exact same people who have been running the NVA for several months now. These are the same people who have supported spying on other corps within the alliance. They are the same people who buried their heads in the sand over differences hoping they'd go away rather than confronting them. They are the same people who couldn't contact any of the southern corps (even though I was in two channels full of them). They are the same people who wanted to close the NVA to any and all new members. I sincerely hope that they are willing to address all these issues rather than blaming everything on other people because if they aren't addressed we'll be seeing yet another honeymoon period for an alliance in Venal followed by another round of disgruntled defections.
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