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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
DAMAGE C0NTR0L
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: SonShadowCat on 08/06/2007 23:47:25
I'm currently using a maelstrom with lvl 5 skills and I was wondering if you guys think a low grade crystal set would be worth it over a +3 set. I'm using a T2 large booster and I'm not sure if the extra shield hp would really help that much during lvl 4s.
Yes I'm noob when it comes to implants.
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Snikkt
Time Cube Syndicate
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:17:00 -
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Too bad Crystal implants effect shield boosters amount, not shield HP.
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:20:00 -
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Thats what I meant. Shield hp as in shield hp boosted.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:30:00 -
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You should be able to boost an obscene amount of shields with a lg crystal set, about 23% more than normal, you might just get into x-large boost amount with the maelstrom bonus.
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steveid
Metatron Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.09 02:14:00 -
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for the money they cost your probably better getting a faction booster and / or hardners
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GenXveve
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Posted - 2007.06.09 07:04:00 -
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I disagree with the FACTION stuffs
I too am a maelstrom Pilot. I have a tech I Amplifier, tech II XLG Booster, and 4 of the full 6 Low grade crystals set (+1,+2,+4,+5%'s). The bonus from those 4 alone is 18.6% and i only spent about 133 million on them. Even if you bought the BEST Faction Amplifier at 46.25% its just not comparable at its crazy millz price. (30%tech I amp x 18.6% [4 of 6 set]= 54%)
I only have Minny BS 3 atm, and my total bonus is about 89% (1133 on the XLG boosters 600)
With BS 5, tech I Amp, and the same 4 low grade crystals i have, youd get about 1272 boost per cycle.
This ship can boost for ridiculous amounts and should be fitted that way. Now imagine BS 5, Full grade crystals (54%), X type Booster (800 per cycle)and lets say 2 Faction Amps (46.25%) 3502 Boost per cycle
I still havent had any problems at level 4 mishes, but then again, it is the maelstrom!
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
DAMAGE C0NTR0L
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Posted - 2007.06.09 07:31:00 -
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I'd use t2 XL booster but it cannot run 24/7 like my t2 large. With minny BS at V and 2 t1 shield amps, and 1% crystal implant it boosts 546. I'm hoping to have 3 more within 2 weeks which should let me breeze by most lvl 4s...
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FraXy
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Posted - 2007.06.09 12:45:00 -
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Maelstrom can boost 4850 HP every 4 seconds and tank the same DPS with averaged resist around 75 running a cap injector aswell.
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Ariel Dawn
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.09 14:17:00 -
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 Originally by: steveid
for the money they cost your probably better getting a faction booster and / or hardners
Low-Grade Crystals (including Omega) cost about 340m and give 33.63% boost. No faction stuff gives that much of an increase for price.
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Scarl3t Pimpernel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Maelstrom can boost 4850 HP every 4 seconds and tank the same DPS with averaged resist around 75 running a cap injector aswell.
Woooow, how? I managed to get 2.5k every 5 seconds max with 5 High-grade crystals, 1x boost amp, BS lvl 5, T2 XLBooster and a strong blue-pill booster. I'm thinking pith boost amp and booster right?
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FraXy
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Posted - 2007.06.09 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Scarl3t Pimpernel
Originally by: FraXy
Maelstrom can boost 4850 HP every 4 seconds and tank the same DPS with averaged resist around 75 running a cap injector aswell.
Woooow, how? I managed to get 2.5k every 5 seconds max with 5 High-grade crystals, 1x boost amp, BS lvl 5, T2 XLBooster and a strong blue-pill booster. I'm thinking pith boost amp and booster right?
Pith X XL
2x Pith X Amps
2x DG Invuln
1x T2 Injector
DCU II
3x Resist Rigs
53.63% Crystal Set
30% Combat Booster
BS 5
840 x 1.375 x 1.5363 x 1.45 x 1.45 x 1.3 = 4849.95 HP
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Scarl3t Pimpernel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 14:58:00 -
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Thought so, very nsty indeed 
How's it CPU wise though, must be a complete ***** to actually put guns on it with that setup, pith-x amp CPU requirements make me cry.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2007.06.09 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scarl3t Pimpernel
Thought so, very nsty indeed
How's it CPU wise though, must be a complete ***** to actually put guns on it with that setup, pith-x amp CPU requirements make me cry.
I was bored so wanted to see what the best tank i could get on a Maelstrom was a few months ago.
Was something like that i came up with and i didn`t bother to see if it was a non-gimped setup. But with a CPU mod, DCU II and 3 PDU/Gyros it would fit no problem i think.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.09 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 09/06/2007 15:36:13
Originally by: FraXy
840 x 1.375 x 1.5363 x 1.45 x 1.45 x 1.3 = 4849.95 HP
840 x 1.375 x 1.5363 x 1.45 x [1+(0.45* aprox 0.87)] x 1.3 = aprox 4654 HP
Almost the same though, insane amount either way.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.06.09 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 09/06/2007 16:53:14
Real men use capital shieldboosters, now thats tanking.
Dont run it fulltime though. You cap out rather quick.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.09 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Real men use capital shieldboosters, now thats tanking.
Dont run it fulltime though. You cap out rather quick.
If you can fit it at all (only on a cap ship, it's 75k MW), then you can also make a fit to permarun it.
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Scarl3t Pimpernel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Scarl3t Pimpernel on 09/06/2007 20:05:22
I thought up this setup a while back, requires some MAJOR isk input though...
8x Dual 650mm AC IIs
1x Capital Shield Booster
2x Copasetic SBAs
2x Dread Guristas Invuls
1x Chelm's Modified Heavy Cap Injector
5x Chelm's RCUs
2x PG Rig IIs
1x PG Rig I
All fits with AWU 5. The booster boosts 14442 per cycle. Provided you aren't nossed you get 63 seconds of activation, but you're not going to need permanent activation for 63 seconds, more like 1 boost every 1min or so 
The copasetics are needed to fit all the guns, 2x pith-x fit with 6x AC IIs. There might be some cosmos SBA i'm overlooking too which gives nice boost amount for less CPU.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:51:00 -
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I just did the math... 78440 MW PG on a Tempest
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Scarl3t Pimpernel
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Posted - 2007.06.09 21:18:00 -
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I'm talking about a Maelstrom, not a tempest...
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Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
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Posted - 2007.06.09 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scarl3t Pimpernel
Edited by: Scarl3t Pimpernel on 09/06/2007 20:05:22
I thought up this setup a while back, requires some MAJOR isk input though...
8x Dual 650mm AC IIs
1x Capital Shield Booster
2x Copasetic SBAs
2x Dread Guristas Invuls
1x Chelm's Modified Heavy Cap Injector
5x Chelm's RCUs
2x PG Rig IIs
1x PG Rig I
All fits with AWU 5. The booster boosts 14442 per cycle. Provided you aren't nossed you get 63 seconds of activation, but you're not going to need permanent activation for 63 seconds, more like 1 boost every 1min or so
The copasetics are needed to fit all the guns, 2x pith-x fit with 6x AC IIs. There might be some cosmos SBA i'm overlooking too which gives nice boost amount for less CPU.
Why not just use best named ACs (or faction for that matter) since damage is hardly your priority. That would surely free up enough to get in some nicer boost amps.
Why i'm offering advice on this fit i dont know. If this fit ever leaves quickfit for anyone, i'll be amazed.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2007.06.09 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 09/06/2007 15:36:13
Originally by: FraXy
840 x 1.375 x 1.5363 x 1.45 x 1.45 x 1.3 = 4849.95 HP
840 x 1.375 x 1.5363 x 1.45 x [1+(0.45* aprox 0.87)] x 1.3 = aprox 4654 HP
Almost the same though, insane amount either way.
My bad sorry, forgot the stacking penalty. 
Which i think is 86.66% on second module.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.09 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
My bad sorry, forgot the stacking penalty.
Which i think is 86.66% on second module.
86.91199806% if you want to get to the 8th percentage decimal with me 
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FraXy
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Posted - 2007.06.10 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: FraXy
My bad sorry, forgot the stacking penalty.
Which i think is 86.66% on second module.
86.91199806% if you want to get to the 8th percentage decimal with me
'tis linked in the sig, second page of the right-side link, top post.
Are you telling me my tanks have a 0.24539806% better potential?!?!?!?
* FraXy runs back to his tanking cave and start modifying his 2415 tanking setups. 
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