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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2012.01.20 11:29:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:I would agree that the archetypes for Amarr/Minmatarr are more clearly defined and not as complex as the other two. That would help in explaining the popularity of RPing with the former and not the later.
Both the Amarr and Minmatar back stories are more complex than appears at first glance.
For example, the Amarrians aren't simply god-bothering slavers but have quite a complex social structure with plenty of room for inter-house conflict.
Similarly the Minmatars aren't just heroic freedom-fighting underdogs, they have a dark side. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.20 15:28:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:For example, the Amarrians aren't simply god-bothering slavers but have quite a complex social structure with plenty of room for inter-house conflict. Could've fooled me
Rodj Blake wrote:Similarly the Minmatars aren't just heroic freedom-fighting underdogs, they have a dark side. People keep mentioning this "dark side" to the Minmatar. Is that a slant on us Brutors? I resent that.
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Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.21 11:01:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: Edit: You can also make both RPers and non-RPers want to kill you, then kill themselves to forget about you. Look up Vaari. I'm not sure if he's actually a pompous and stupid Amarr, or if he's satirizing pompous and stupid Amarr, but he's good at it either way.
That's because he tends to annoy the hell out of us on finnish channel and decking seems to work.
Anyway telling/ordering what other characters do is also called "power playing" and is considered an exeptionally bad behaviour especially in IRC RP-chat rooms and -games.
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Christina Trild
SkyNet Experiments
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Posted - 2012.01.21 11:27:00 -
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CVA=role plays all the time. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.21 19:39:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Anyway telling/ordering what other characters do is also called "power playing" and is considered an exeptionally bad behaviour especially in IRC RP-chat rooms and -games.
Unless your RP consists of ordering people around *cough* CVA. It was not for RP reasons that I looked down on Providence and enjoyed the "Burn Provi" campaign so much. |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
74
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:47:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Baneken wrote:Anyway telling/ordering what other characters do is also called "power playing" and is considered an exeptionally bad behaviour especially in IRC RP-chat rooms and -games.
Unless your RP consists of ordering people around *cough* CVA. It was not for RP reasons that I looked down on Providence and enjoyed the "Burn Provi" campaign so much.
Maybe I didn't explain it clear enough. Power playing isn't about being a boss it's about describing what characters of other people do.
Ie. "I hit bob on the face and he falls unconscious and then I loot all his stuff" is what gets you kicked from RP groups pretty fast. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
327
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Posted - 2012.01.22 22:03:00 -
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Baneken wrote: Maybe I didn't explain it clear enough. Power playing isn't about being a boss it's about describing what characters of other people do.
Ie. "I hit bob on the face and he falls unconscious and then I loot all his stuff" is what gets you kicked from RP groups pretty fast.
Oh yeah, that is power play and a complete ******* thing to do.
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Alaric Faelen
Aquila Venatici Bringers of Death.
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:02:00 -
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I've found that other than in-character chat and FW (which I haven't done myself, but the concept is pretty simple), pretty much any level of RP is a self-induced gimp.
One of the things that I like best about Eve is that I only ever need one toon to do anything. I am adamant about keeping Eve a game and playing with one account, one toon. To me, alts are just a cheat in Eve. Multiple accts to have scouts is just end-running the game mechanics. I don't look at players with a dozen alts with admiration (a bit of pity maybe).
A staunch refusal to powergame.
But an MMO is basically an arms race. Those willing to invest ever more will always hold an edge. Someone with more alts than real life friends, willing to spend more time in Eve than at a part time job, or just got into it long before me- is always going be in a superior position. (hint- that's why anything with enforced parity is very popular, while unrestricted blob warfare is almost universally bemoaned on these forums)
I've said before that for many players- Eve is just a calculator with graphics. The less of one you make it, the less company you find yourself in, and thus, further behind the curve. If you like it- do it. It's a game after all. Just accept that it's a self-imposed penalty that only you care about. I know my vision of Eve is probably in the minority. But it's how I enjoy the game most, and so already meets the one and only criterion asked of it- fun to me.
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Hilato Talkori
Vigilans Aeternum
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Posted - 2012.01.23 14:15:00 -
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I think you are probably accurate in your ordering, though I will admit I can't think of a Gallente RP corp, but my experience with the Gallente is limited.
RPing to me is an added level of immersion to an already amazing game. It helps keep EVE interesting and fresh, when otherwise I would be getting bored doing the same thing for the hundredth time. It also opens unique friendships with other characters. I've been able to meet some pretty cool people while doing RP.
As far as what I expect from my members, I don't actually require RP. It isn't for everyone, and as long as you are willing not to contradict the policies set forward, I don't have any problem with you joining. For IC chat, yes you should stay true to your character. That said, corp chat is not IC, and I don't really care either way how someone wants to speak OOC.
Vigilans Aeternum is resisting Tibus Heth's despotical reign over the Caldari State. So basically, anyone connected to Tibus Heth, is free game, and anyone not connected to Tibus Heth is not. So I'll find some systems where we can shoot convoys and what not, and it allows us to have some fun, make isk, blow stuff up, and still stay true to the RP. I'm not going to flip out on someone for doing something they didn't know was 'wrong.' I probably wouldn't flip out on someone even if they did know.
I am willing to kick someone for doing something that we are opposed to (slaving, supporting Tibus Heth, etc) especially if they do know better. If you are going to join an RP corp, you should know better than to do the opposite of the RP.
Just my thoughts, Hilato Talkori |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
39
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Posted - 2012.01.24 08:31:00 -
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There is much to be done on the caldari/gallente front: I for one would love to see someone start the Kairiola/Hueromont truth movement or get some other bizarre twist on the creation of the State (like terrorism is made up nowadays etc).
But now I must go - my watch officer has alerted me of republic vessels in this sector, I must engage immediately to have the the element of surprise.
** END OF TRANSMISSION ** The Order of the Falcon or Hin +ˇslenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
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Aggressive Nutmeg
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Posted - 2012.01.24 12:16:00 -
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I've never seen anyone roleplay in-game. It seems to be something people just talk about on the forum.
So since we're on the forum, Amarr remind me of Americans (violent, religious weirdos), Minmatar is the Middle East (ditto) and Caldari/Gallente are two aspects of what I would consider to be the modern-day civilised world of Australia, Britain, Canada and parts of Europe.
Flame on! Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Himnos Altar
Angry Hobos Interstellar Hobos
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Posted - 2012.01.24 13:57:00 -
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So, basically the Gallente are descended from the ancient French (from Earth, pre-EVE collapse), and colonised Gallente Prime in Luminaire. They're the big democratic/hedonistic/hippy race that welcomes everyone in.
The squids--sorry, Caldari are the ungrateful, socialist heathens from Caldari Prime (also in the Luminaire system). They were originally part of the Gallente Federation, until they decided they wanted to leave. A Caldari terrorist attack on a Gallente underwater colony later and we were at war. A Caldari cap pilot made a suicide run into Gallente Prime's atmosphere in the middle of an orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime, and eventually the Squids and we froggies made up.
Fast forward a couple hundred years, and the squids invade Gallente space, take a planet in our HOME SYSTEM (yeah, bad on us Gallente, I know), and throw up a Titan in the same solar system as our race's HOME PLANET. They're currently led by a power-hungry factory worker who is blatantly anti-Gallente, and was party to the slaughter of hundreds of Gallente citizens in riots. Riots that were exacerbated by Tibus Heth, ignoring all attempts of President Foritain to get a peace going, throwing treaties back in our President's face.
....buuuuuut I don't ACTUALLY RP that much :P
just a big Gallente fan.
in case you DIDN'T notice :P |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:56:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:So, basically the Gallente are descended from the ancient French (from Earth, pre-EVE collapse), and colonised Gallente Prime in Luminaire. They're the big democratic/hedonistic/hippy race that welcomes everyone in.
The squids--sorry, Caldari are the ungrateful, socialist heathens from Caldari Prime (also in the Luminaire system). They were originally part of the Gallente Federation, until they decided they wanted to leave. A Caldari terrorist attack on a Gallente underwater colony later and we were at war. A Caldari cap pilot made a suicide run into Gallente Prime's atmosphere in the middle of an orbital bombardment of Caldari Prime, and eventually the Squids and we froggies made up.
Fast forward a couple hundred years, and the squids invade Gallente space, take a planet in our HOME SYSTEM (yeah, bad on us Gallente, I know), and throw up a Titan in the same solar system as our race's HOME PLANET. They're currently led by a power-hungry factory worker who is blatantly anti-Gallente, and was party to the slaughter of hundreds of Gallente citizens in riots. Riots that were exacerbated by Tibus Heth, ignoring all attempts of President Foritain to get a peace going, throwing treaties back in our President's face.
....buuuuuut I don't ACTUALLY RP that much :P
just a big Gallente fan.
in case you DIDN'T notice :P That's... not how I recall it going. You and the Calamari share a home system, and should act like it, not like children bitching over a favorite toy.
Also the Calamari are ungrateful, money-grubbing, capitalist heathens. Socialism involves generosity and caring for another that doesn't fit with their culture of corporate greed. |
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