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Laughing Jackal
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Laughing Jackal on 11/06/2007 17:44:53
Let me cut right to the chase:
I run modules, ships, and minerals from Jita to very deep alliance-held 0.0. Hear the big stink about BoB minting ISK from a ludicrous NPC trade route? I mint ISK, except I do it without exploits, the old-fashioned way, by traveling, and taking risks. But with risk comes reward. I need your financing to increase my reward - in return you will probably double your ISK in 2 weeks, for doing absolutely nothing.
Here's how I make money:
Let's say I buy Large Shield Extender II's in Jita at 3m (I've found cheaper). I can sell them, EASILY, to reckless PvPers in 0.0 for 8-9m. At only 20 units sold, (I usually sell more) that's 100m in profit, on an investment of 60m.
This means, on that unit alone, I can get more than 100% return (double) every day. Not to mention minerals (MUCH smaller cargo space, hence higher unit profit).
My problem right now is capital. I JUST finished carrier training, and I need to move up to the next level. With more capital I can buy the carrier, buy more stuff, and make more profit. It's very simple.
My average weekly return is about 92%. I make runs on Sundays. Mind you this is my return using a lowly Itty V, nothing else.
Therefore, I feel comfortable offering a GUARANTEED 50% return on your investment within 14 days, if you decide this isn't for you.
On its own, that is a pretty sick short-term return. But it doesn't even come close to reflecting the true upside potential of my business.
Here's the real money: I PROMISE to return 50% of my PROFIT at 30 days.
Think about this - WITHOUT carriers, I AVERAGE 92% weekly. That's 368% monthly. That means your investment would return 184% - BASED ON MY OLD BUSINESS MODEL. If I raise the funds for a carrier....I'm drooling just thinking about it. These PvPers will pay anything, and I'm reaping the rewards.
In other words, investing 1m isk, IF TONS OF STUFF GOES WRONG you would get 2.84m isk back at the end of the month. At BARE MINIMUM, I am promising you'd get 1.5m back, in 14 days. That's how much money I make. The minimum alone...think about it. On 100m your DEAD MINIMUM return is 50m. In 14 days.
CONCERNS.
So why don't I get ganked on my runs? I don't use a carrier, just a lowly Itty V. I am safe because I have agreements with the leaders of the large alliances for safe passage - I've never lost a shipment because my supply runs benefit them.
How can standard modules be so profitable? If you haven't ventured into deep alliance 0.0 you wouldn't understand the premium common Empire items command. It's usually about double. Nobody out there wants to waste time manufacturing, they're all PvPers. It' simple supply and demand.
ISK Investments sent to my character (Laughing Jackal) will be recorded and you will be sent a personal EVEMail response, giving you a record of the investment terms. In brief: if you want out, you get 50% in 14 days. If you stick with it for 30 days, you get 50% of my profits (368% last month - your return 184%).
Longer terms with higher returns for investments larger than 100m ISK will be considered.
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Willimancer
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:02:00 -
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Received 380m ISK already. No investment too small. Over 100m, reply to thread. Keep it coming.
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Fish Brain
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Fish Brain on 11/06/2007 18:04:11
How about this idea:
Why don`t you leave the npc corp and join a 0.0 corp/alliance... and i`m sure they`ll support you with founds to keep they`r pvp supply`s coming..
After you win they`r trust :D
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Laughing Jackal
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:06:00 -
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No thank you, I prefer to operate independent of politics...you see I can make far more dealing with multiple 0.0 alliances, and not burning bridges with any. This tactic benefits investors as well.
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WWhisper Alt
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:08:00 -
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privat deal with this d00d a few months ago made me almost 600mil isk...as legit as they come
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Fish Brain
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:21:00 -
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Well then... why don`t you make a public channel where people can support/say you`re a scammer :D so willing investors can make an idea
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The Anointed
Caldari
KR0M
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:43:00 -
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I know through experience that this is actually a good way to make some isk, as a friend used to do it.
However you will not secure any major isk unless you are either;
A well known member of the community.
A long standing member of a respected corporation.
Have the ability to secure potential investments against something of value, t2 bpo etc.
Oh and just a bit of advice, an alt and a goonfleet member are not the best people to use to post reccomendations with.
The fact that you flamed BoB in the original post, are backed up by a goonfleet member and another alt, leads me to beleive that you may just be scamming with all three character slots.
That being said, good luck and if anyone can verify that its not a scam, then I can verify that if you pick the space correctly you can make good money from selling empire items in deep 0.0.
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Mr DanielXY
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:48:00 -
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Hmm, I maybe interested in investing...
Couple Questions:
- How much isk do you need total? Obviously there is a limit after which you cant put the additional isk to use (not enough demand)
- Got anyone that is known in the forums that could votch for you? The 2 Chars that did in the thread are roughly the same age as you... thus could be alts.
- Although you say you are not likly to get ganked as you are expirienced and have deals with the alliances, it could happen anyways... So hypothetically lets say you get ganked in low-sec or some random pirate in 0.0 and you loose the majority of your total isk-worth (as you obviously would have to invest and haul most of it, to get the big returns)... How do you propose to get the money for the investors back thus you could pay the guranteed 150% return after 2 weeks? Or is it in such circumstances just tough luck for everyone? ;)
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Laughing Jackal
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Laughing Jackal on 11/06/2007 18:48:33
Not a flame to BoB, just an example of how trade routes that actually make money exist. I have sold to all major alliances, Goonfleet, BoB, etc. The alt who posted is a prominent former member of LV, I realize alts are sketchy but he can say what he wants.
Public channel to go live later tonight (around 7pm EST) for people to weigh in - will edit then with name. Trust me, I've left no one disappointed. I'm just moving public now to take this to the next level.
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Willimancer
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Willimancer on 11/06/2007 18:57:02
This guy is legit, I know I posted before but GF deals with him all the time.
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Laughing Jackal
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr DanielXY
Hmm, I maybe interested in investing...
Couple Questions:
- How much isk do you need total? Obviously there is a limit after which you cant put the additional isk to use (not enough demand)
- Got anyone that is known in the forums that could votch for you? The 2 Chars that did in the thread are roughly the same age as you... thus could be alts.
- Although you say you are not likly to get ganked as you are expirienced and have deals with the alliances, it could happen anyways... So hypothetically lets say you get ganked in low-sec or some random pirate in 0.0 and you loose the majority of your total isk-worth (as you obviously would have to invest and haul most of it, to get the big returns)... How do you propose to get the money for the investors back thus you could pay the guranteed 150% return after 2 weeks? Or is it in such circumstances just tough luck for everyone? ;)
-About 2b would produce returns at my current trade volume. Going forward, if I get the capital, this will increase.
-I will contact more former investors, I understand your concerns.
-Read carefully - I promised 50%, not 150%, after 14 days as a guarantee. Holding investment for 30 days, I promised 50% of profit. I can do this because I've never NOT made more than 50% return in 2 weeks.
Then again, you're right to point out that past performance is no guarantee of future results. I could get ganked. I never have been, but think about the returns I'm promising - there is risk. The investment decision is yours.
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Kahor
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.11 20:02:00 -
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This smell of scam...
What would you do to convince me you are not scamming ? Beside the usual 'alts' investing and asking questions, and the PROMISES you do ^^.
All the 'alts' that posted also haven't got their corp ticker showing either...You neither for the matter.
For now, I can only scream SCAM.
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An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.11 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 11/06/2007 20:21:46
:))))))))))))))))
A goon vouching for your business will most likely turn smart ppl away.
Considering the abuse of alts and the fact that the GF guy posted very fast ... I wouldn't send you 1 ISK. :)
Want links to where GF members admit to being pro scamming and corp theft ?
GF have no word when it comes to pubbies. :)
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