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Atomic Atty Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:01:00 - [1] Edited by: Atomic Atty on 13/06/2007 18:02:09 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Warp Disruptor II Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II E/T/K/Ex=75/59/39/59 ----- Maybe I could switch one TE II to a speed mod... Your thoughts ? This is with AWU IV. You could replace the Y-T8 for a T2 with AWU V. ---------- Laulau's Blog
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:30:00 - [2] Edited by: Hey You on 13/06/2007 18:31:41 5 220 mm Vulcan II + med nos II 2 large extenders II + mwd II + disruptor II 2 overdrives II + nano II 2 pdus II 5 light II drones or ecm lights or 5 220 mm Vulcans II + heavy assault launcher II 2 large extenders II + mwd II + disruptor II 2 overdrives II + nano II + 2 gyro II 5 light drones II or ecm lights or anti frig one: 5 180 mm Duals II + med nos II 2 extenders II disruptor II mwd II 2 overdrives II + nano II + gyro II + pdu II 5 light II or ecm lights Barrage ammo. Edit: could be wrong with something cuz im not in game atm :) Also vaga and shield tanking Also this is setup with no rigs if u gonna use rigs use ones that gives more speed :) cant remember name at the moment. polycarbon casing somehing And Faction > T2 so if u can aford by all means To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's *******
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Atomic Atty Edited by: Atomic Atty on 13/06/2007 18:02:09 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Warp Disruptor II Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II E/T/K/Ex=75/59/39/59 ----- Maybe I could switch one TE II to a speed mod... Your thoughts ? This is with AWU IV. You could replace the Y-T8 for a T2 with AWU V. that's a rather interesting setup away from the usual extender cookie cutter setup. could just work. perssonally i'd prefer a passive tank on a ship that can do it well but well worth a try DE
Kalazar Amarr Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:42:00 - [4] 5x Dual 180mm II's Corpum A-type nosferatu Warp Disruptor II 2x LSE II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I MWD 2x Gyrostab II I-stab II Overdrive injector II PDU II Rigs: Mass reduction & MWD cap use reduction. Works fairly well. ----------------------------------------------
Marcus Alkhaar Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly	Posted - 2007.06.13 19:49:00 - [5] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Atomic Atty Edited by: Atomic Atty on 13/06/2007 18:02:09 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Warp Disruptor II Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II E/T/K/Ex=75/59/39/59 ----- Maybe I could switch one TE II to a speed mod... Your thoughts ? This is with AWU IV. You could replace the Y-T8 for a T2 with AWU V. that's a rather interesting setup away from the usual extender cookie cutter setup. could just work. perssonally i'd prefer a passive tank on a ship that can do it well but well worth a try DE I got the same opinion. but try to reconfigure your lows to 2x overdrive + I-stab + 2x Gyro and the 2x polycarbon rig... your setup allows you to get a lower signature... you might want to try a c-type due to price and cap
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.06.13 20:16:00 - [6] Edited by: Horza Otho on 13/06/2007 20:15:21 5x d180/220 II 1x corpum a-type nos 1x domi/gistum a mwd 1x domi WD 2x LSE II 2x domi gyro 1x inertia II 2x domi OD 2x polycarbon
Atomic Atty Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.06.13 21:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Hey You Also vaga and shield tanking I know it can seem weird, but you don't want to lose speed throwing in some armor tanking mods. I'd rather, like it iss setup, speed tank and eventually back up the speed tank with a bit of shield tank :) ---------- Laulau's Blog
Yana Kaar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.13 22:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 13/06/2007 18:31:41 5 220 mm Vulcan II + med nos II 2 large extenders II + mwd II + disruptor II 2 overdrives II + nano II 2 pdus II 5 light II drones or ecm lights or 5 220 mm Vulcans II + heavy assault launcher II 2 large extenders II + mwd II + disruptor II 2 overdrives II + nano II + 2 gyro II 5 light drones II or ecm lights or anti frig one: 5 180 mm Duals II + med nos II 2 extenders II disruptor II mwd II 2 overdrives II + nano II + gyro II + pdu II 5 light II or ecm lights I think these setups are kinda crap. Med Nos II range is 12km. HAM-range with both range skills at IV is about 13km. one small mistake (or a good timed mwd/ab burst of the enemy) and you get webbed... when you get webbed, you die within seconds... tank is speed, no speed is death ;) better stay way outside webrange (with a corpum-nos or a HML instead of a Med Nos II or a HAML), rest of setup is mostly fine. Some Vaga-setups are there which let you stay outside heavy nos range (namely above 25km range) so it can be BS-proof... ofc needs at least a Domination Disruptor, but hey, BS-proof-cookie-cutter-setups have their price! ;) your active tank-setup for a vaga with cap injector seems interestingly new at the first sight, but not THAT good if you look at the other mods. NO speed mods at all except a named mwd... not even t2... 3x Gyro is not THAT usefull as there are plenty mods that fit better in there. same with tracking enhancer... wtf do you need TE's for med range ACs? ACs live through falloff, not optimal... and tracking is only needed if you perma-mwd (you cant afford that). better take a speed-setup, tanked vagas with small tank just die in fire, sorry.
Chavu The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 23:59:00 - [9] T2 NOS is worthless on a vaga, there are 12km webs out there that don't cost a fortune you know (althought they seem to be going up in price, yay) Either use a DB/TS NOS or a Corupum A-type. The shield + cap booster looks like an excellent setup to be anti-curse and anti-nos BS. The problem is that once you use a cap booster then cargo space is important and too many overdrives kill your cargo space. Replace lows with 2x gyro, 1x nano, 1 x OD, and 1x istab. 2 Polycarbon rigs if you can. It might be too much micro-managing, you gotta watch: local, scanner, your drones, enemy drones, enemy range, your cap, shield, phew. The fight is going to have to last more than 1.5 minutes to make the booster better than twin LSE IIs (rough math). Although the cap booster can save your life and poly carboned corpum vagabonds don't come cheap :)
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 00:10:00 - [10] tbh for anti frig setup with 180 mm autos t2 nos do just fine. especially in fleets. and as i said below my post, Faction > T2 so who have means feel free. I sticked to T2 setup becosue i think not everyone have isk for corpum nos and or domi gyros and disruptors. To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's *******
Darth Pimp Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 03:35:00 - [11] High: 5x Dual 180mm 1x Corpum NOS (Dont think about a 12km NOS, use instead a probe/missle Launcher. You dont go with a vagabond closer than 14-15km to your target) Med: 10mn mwd, Disruptor, 2x Large Shield Extender (Dropping one extender for a pith-a type small shield booster is pretty nice against these tons of raven/drakes these days in the belt. You can easy maintain the booster with your nos.) Low: 1x Inertia, 2x overdrive, 2x Gyro Rigs for 2x LSE setup: Mass, Falloff Rigs for 1x LSE 1x Booster: Mass, Kinetic Shield Resistance I use the Booster setup solo and the 2x LSE setup in gangs. btw, domi mwd and domi/db/ts disruptor helps a lot to be succesfull. T2 works also, but its more micromanagment. -- "There are NO JEDIS out there!" Imperial Forces.
LoOnY PaRk Black Nexus Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.16 08:04:00 - [12] whats the real differance between Dual 180mm II's and 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II? dual 180s have slightly better tracking but less damage, what circumstances would dual 180 II be better than 220mm Vul?
royal killer Amarr The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.16 13:26:00 - [13] With better tracking, you are hitting way better in movement.....i think ?! --------------------

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