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Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 07:49:00 - [1] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 14/06/2007 07:52:14 True Amarrians: Have you forgotten? Revenge of Vak'Atioth is what is needed to heal the Sick Amarrian's wounded psyche. We are not meant to chase slaves conquesting lands of apes as if there are pride on it. We are to take what our ancestors knew it was the only step forward. This is an open invitation to all True Amarrs, independent of faction, believes, alliances and loyalities. An invitation to march once again to VakÆAtioth and this time, make history as it should be writen. No discussions will be made at this thread regarding further operations. True Amarrians, interested to take part into this operation, shall contact me by private mail requesting access to the channel " VakÆAtioth " Acess will be granted in needed bases. Opinions and comments of other races and all non True Amarrs wil be ignored. Individual comments out of topic or in detriment of the operation will be ignored, this is not a discussion of faction believes. Questions regarding the Thread and operation will be answered. Revan Neferis "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Na'Thuul Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.14 07:58:00 - [2] This should be good... ---
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 09:24:00 - [3] Nefarious intellect at work, evidently... ----------------------------------------------
Boma Airaken APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.14 09:38:00 - [4] For Pony!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 09:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Gaius Kador Nefarious intellect at work, evidently... Obviously, It take a true Amarr to have the will to do more then hunting slaves and bending to Amarr agent whoring. Vak'Atioth is too much for you, Gaius? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.14 10:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Revan Neferis Opinions and comments of other races and all non True Amarrs wil be ignored. So you'll ignore yourself, harlott? A step forward. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 10:47:00 - [7] Bravo attempt to hide your cowardice behind cheap insults. VakÆAtioth is the subject here. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 10:54:00 - [8] I look forward to hearing the battle reports of the Sani Sabik's campaign against the Jovians. It always pleases me to see two enemies of the Empire fight each other. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.14 10:55:00 - [9] Just out of curiosity, is VakÆAtioth even accessible? Thought the Jove disabled/destroyed all the gates to there space! Saying that though, i've never tried to access anywhere in Jove space! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 11:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 10:55:14 I look forward to hearing the battle reports of The Sani Sabik's campaign against the Jovians. It always pleases me to see two enemies of the Empire fight each other. This is not a Sani Sabik campaign Mr. Blake. It is a call to all true Amarrians who would dare to attend it. VakÆAtioth is a matter concerning all of us. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 11:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Hooch Flux Just out of curiosity, is VakÆAtioth even accessible? Thought the Jove disabled/destroyed all the gates to there space! Saying that though, i've never tried to access anywhere in Jove space! VakÆAtioth now known as "Atioth" . The name is used as a reference to the battle more the the system itself here in this case. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.14 11:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Rodj Blake I look forward to hearing the battle reports of the Sani Sabik's campaign against the Jovians. It always pleases me to see two enemies of the Empire fight each other. Now that'd be a battle I'd pay to see! Picture it - The Jovian behemoth-fleet, hyper-advanced vanguard of a people to whom the laws of physics are a plaything to be toyed with, who single-handedly expunged the Golden Fleet from existance - and at the height of it's power no-less! VS Reven Nerferis and her 3 followers in their dinky little clapped-out junkers. First round - a Jovian looks at Raven Nererfis funny and her ship explodes. Then she explodes. Then the spot in space she inhabited implodes in upon itself and ceases to exist, leaving a tear in space. Which then also explodes. Second round - The second round consists of buying the Jovian's many beers accompanied by prefuse thank-yous from the entire galaxy. --------- EVE is like a box of chocolates. omg nerf chocolates D:
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.14 11:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Revan Neferis VakÆAtioth now known as "Atioth" . The name is used as a reference to the battle more the the system itself here in this case. Thx I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 11:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Revan Neferis VakÆAtioth now known as "Atioth" . The name is used as a reference to the battle more the the system itself here in this case. Thx You're welcome. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Hiro Yuki Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:00:00 - [15] Oh finally, Revan's off to die! Maybe there is a God after all... Hiro Yuki
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Hiro Yuki Oh finally, Revan's off to die! Maybe there is a God after all... Hiro Yuki Immortals have no need of God. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Hiro Yuki Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:34:00 - [17] Y'know, you keep on saying you're not going to respond to non-pure-Amarr and then you go and do it. You really must learn to control yourself. Besides, remove your clones and you're not immortal at all. I guess that means you're not truly immortal anyway. Hiro Yuki
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Hiro Yuki Y'know, you keep on saying you're not going to respond to non-pure-Amarr and then you go and do it. You really must learn to control yourself. Besides, remove your clones and you're not immortal at all. I guess that means you're not truly immortal anyway. Hiro Yuki Yes, I rarely miss an opportunity to see how many ignorant t takes to derail a thread. Besides, I don't know what primitve Universe you may refer where I would have need to remove my clones. The Universe I live, makes me immortal, yes. Ah but again this was not the subject of the thread. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:52:00 - [19] Immortal? If you die inside your pod somewhere a copy of you will be activated. That's not even close to being immortal. Even if every cloning is as perfect as it can be you'll still die at some point due to every copy (even the most perfect ones) being incomplete. That disregards the problem of clone failure, not to mention that if you die outside the pod no amount of clones will help you the slightest. I've seen pod-pilots succumb to the fear of dying outside their pods to the degree that they've become feral, no longer human but instead a menace similar to that of the rogue drones, and their every living moment outside the pod being similar to a cornered beast. As for the Jovians? Gods? Hardly. They're neither omniscient or omnipotent. Toying with the laws of physics. Hardly, nobody plays with the laws of physics, by improving our grasp of science they and we are simply discovering new aspects of them. They destroyed a portion of the Golden fleet in a carefully orchestrated trap. I'm not saying that they couldn't have won without the treachery, but I don't think it would have been nearly as painless (as latter limited conflicts against the jovians has proven, as well as investigations of the angels jovian-derived technology). ...practicly everything I've seen here has been utter foolishness. From Jovian worship, to delusions of grandeur, to letting old wounded pride guide actions toward what can only be considered a non-threat at a time when the Empire has an abundance of real enemies of greater or lesser importance to chose from. Terrorists, Pirates or Cultists, pick your favorite. We don't need to conduct costly campaigns against the Jovians who are pretty much content with either manipulating events from the sidelines or just watching. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Hiro Yuki Oh finally, Revan's off to die! Maybe there is a God after all... Hiro Yuki The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time. I have see no other proof that any other Amarrian on or any race has seen fit to challenge the Jovians since the historic battle. Remember "god" gifted the Empire with two losses. To the Jovians and to the Minmatar Republic. The loyalist's can make all the excuses as to why this happened but in the end they will cower in their stations while the Sani Sabik conquers this ancient foe. If there are any "true" Amarr remaining, then they understand that this will be their sacred duty to reclaim this system. I would suggest that it is time is now to beat back the Jovians. Lady Revan, I wish it to be known, that I, pure of Amarrian blood and soul, a former holder of Chaven, seek reclamation of my birthright and join your crusade. I will contact you by the prescribed methods above. I just wanted to show the others what the True Amarr is really about Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.14 12:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Revin Niferas Originally by: Hiro Yuki Y'know, you keep on saying you're not going to respond to non-pure-Amarr and then you go and do it. You really must learn to control yourself. Besides, remove your clones and you're not immortal at all. I guess that means you're not truly immortal anyway. Hiro Yuki Yes, I rarely miss an opportunity to see how many ignorant t takes to derail a thread. Besides, I don't know what primitve Universe you may refer where I would have need to remove my clones. The Universe I live, makes me immortal, yes. Ah but again this was not the subject of the thread. Originally by: Ravan Nafferis Opinions and comments of other races and all non True Amarrs wil be ignored. I ask that you keep to your own stupid rules, half-wit. Stick to what you preach, for what your rhetoric-laden, whiny, vacuous preaching is worth at any rate. --------- EVE is like a box of chocolates. omg nerf chocolates D:
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time. If you're assuming that the last time was the Battle of Vak'Atioth, then you are mistaken. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Hiro Yuki Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:05:00 - [23] Hah! The Sani Sabik aren't going to go and kill the Jovians! They might run as far as they can towards them, but in the end, they'll either die, or not find them. Personally, I kind of hope they'll die. It would stop Revan's endless drivel. Hiro Yuki
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 13:06:06 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time. If you're assuming that the last time was the Battle of Vak'Atioth, then you are mistaken. Furthermore, I've yet to see any evidence that the Neferis heretic has actually taken on the Jovians directly. Casserina is not assumng, she is taking a directly official publication "No-one has attacked the Jovians since." Last sentence, of the official Battle of Vak'Atioth report. Furthermore, "The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time." is very different from the ignorant interpretation "has actually taken on the Jovians directly." I'm disgusted with the level of cowardice and the lower intellect of Amarrians to even be able to refer to the topic or make any considerable " insult" worth. Go back to hunto your apes, this is what you have made ofyour Empire. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:39:00 - [25] Originally by: Hiro Yuki It would stop Revan's endless drivel. You want to make a bet? I'm not sure the joint conspiring of every empire, the Jove, the Enheduanni, a revived Sleeper, Talocan, Takmahl and Yan Jung force combined could make Naferas shut her giant gob for more than 5 minutes. --------- EVE is like a box of chocolates. omg nerf chocolates D:
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:45:00 - [26] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 13:46:38 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 13:45:15 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 13:06:06 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time. If you're assuming that the last time was the Battle of Vak'Atioth, then you are mistaken. Furthermore, I've yet to see any evidence that the Neferis heretic has actually taken on the Jovians directly. Casserina is not assumng, she is taking a directly official publication "No-one has attacked the Jovians since." Last sentence, of the official Battle of Vak'Atioth report. Furthermore, "The fact Revan is the only Amarr that I know of who would dare to take on Jovians directly since the last time." is very different from the ignorant interpretation "has actually taken on the Jovians directly." I'm disgusted with the level of cowardice and the lower intellect of Amarrians to even be able to refer to the topic or make any considerable " insult" worth. Go back to hunto your apes, this is what you have made ofyour Empire. I guess it all comes down to the difference between Jovians, as per your underling's comment, and the Jovians, as per the battle report. The fact of the matter is that Jovians have been taken on by Amarrian pilots since the Battle of Vak'Atioth. Still, I'm sure that we'll be able to read all about your efforts to take on the Jovians in the official news at some point. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 13:59:00 - [27] Rodj, I am curious if you have had some of those other battle reports handy with the other Amarrian encounters with the Jovians. However, I will pose this question for you since you are always happy to respond. What would happen if heretics like Revan or myself actually beat the the Jovians in battle? What would that say for the Empire who has prided itself on its stagnant values and a false religion. And those worthy of it are the heretics? Think about it. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Rodj Blake I guess it all comes down to the difference between Jovians, as per your underling's comment, and the Jovians, as per the battle report. The fact of the matter is that Jovians have been taken on by Amarrian pilots since the Battle of Vak'Atioth. Still, I'm sure that we'll be able to read all about your efforts to take on the Jovians in the official news at some point. I don't believe so, cowardice of loyalists is barely something that will make official news. As myself, I will do what any True Amarrian would. La reine le veut will be flying towards Vak'Atioth, it's a duty to ancestry not a movie scene Blake. But I understand your anxious concern for official news, you and yours operate strictly for the press. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:04:00 - [29] I can see you having a couple of difficulties with this, namely: 1) The Jovians managed to cut off access to their space quite successfully. You're therefore going to have quite a hard time forcing an engagement without any Jovians to catch. Any idea how you're going to overcome this? Or is this more a symbolic gesture, a challenge to the Jovians to "come and get'cha"? 2) If they do engage you, you'll be fighting biotech with hardtech. A biotech system will always be faster, more responsive and more flexible because of its massive parallel processing capabilities - imagine if your ship had a brain rather than a linear AI, and the capacity to learn from past experience. Think of how fast you can pull your hand away from a fire, running on pure somatic reflex. What exactly do you think you can pull out of the bag that will let you win, if you do, indeed, force an engagement? -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Evanda Char I can see you having a couple of difficulties with this, namely: 1) The Jovians managed to cut off access to their space quite successfully. You're therefore going to have quite a hard time forcing an engagement without any Jovians to catch. Any idea how you're going to overcome this? Or is this more a symbolic gesture, a challenge to the Jovians to "come and get'cha"? 2) If they do engage you, you'll be fighting biotech with hardtech. A biotech system will always be faster, more responsive and more flexible because of its massive parallel processing capabilities - imagine if your ship had a brain rather than a linear AI, and the capacity to learn from past experience. Think of how fast you can pull your hand away from a fire, running on pure somatic reflex. What exactly do you think you can pull out of the bag that will let you win, if you do, indeed, force an engagement? Very good questions, specially for a minmatar. It seems I have to open exceptions to my answers, after all. 1- No, there is no such thing as "symbolic gesture". I'll be taking the "La reine le veutö a Revelation class Amarrian vessel to their doors together with the Amarrian fleet who will take the chance. I have no intentio of forcng an engagement, I'll call to battle and if they don't respond is because they might as well be dead inside their rotten diseased enclousure, or silentely ackowledging their defeat. Either way, my task and obligation towards my Blood and ancestry will be done. 2- If the engagement happens, we will see the result of it afterwards. We are all aware of the advancements of Jovians in matters of technology, although it has been ages since last reports or actual presence of the infidels at known space. Their level may be well declined since the golden defeat. It matters little if this will be proven right or wrong. What has to be done, has to be done. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:22:00 - [31] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:22:59 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:21:37 I understand now. Revan will fly to Atioth, a system that hasn't seen any Jovian activity for a long time. Then, when no Jovians appear, she will declare victory and claim that they are afraid of her. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Dionisius Gallente Fallen Lords	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:29:00 - [32] So this time you won't be doing a conga line while the Jovians pick you off one by one? Whats the battleplan besides mass numbers, and mass suicide? _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Katyayani Koriau Amarr Auto De Fe	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:34:00 - [33] Originally by: Nero Scuro Originally by: Hiro Yuki It would stop Revan's endless drivel. You want to make a bet? I'm not sure the joint conspiring of every empire, the Jove, the Enheduanni, a revived Sleeper, Talocan, Takmahl and Yan Jung force combined could make Naferas shut her giant gob for more than 5 minutes. With respect. Why do you see fit to insult, demean, personnal attack and flame everything somebody else might have to say? Who exactly are you that rules of civilised behaviour don't count and you can be as unpleasant and disgusting insulting as you choose without ISD doing anything about it?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:38:00 - [34] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:22:59 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:21:37 I understand now. Revan will fly to Atioth, a system that hasn't seen any Jovian activity for a long time. Then, when no Jovians appear, she will declare victory and claim that they are afraid of her. No. I expect the Jovians to act. But it's interesting you meantion your tactics. It seems similar to your strategy against SF, " They kill our ships, we dock, flee, and declare they are insignificants" I couldn't expect anything more brilliant, from you Blake. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:41:00 - [35] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:42:14 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:22:59 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 14:21:37 I understand now. Revan will fly to Atioth, a system that hasn't seen any Jovian activity for a long time. Then, when no Jovians appear, she will declare victory and claim that they are afraid of her. No. I expect the Jovians to act. But it's interesting you meantion your tactics. It seems similar to your strategy against SF, " They kill our ships, we dock, flee, and declare they are insignificants" I couldn't expect anything more brilliant, from you Blake. If I recall correctly, it was SF falsely claiming victory when PIE was off doing other, more important things. So if anything, the tactics that you will be using are similar to those employed by your partners in the troika of terror. Still, trying to derail your own thread is exactly the sort of thing that we've come to expect from you. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:53:00 - [36] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 14/06/2007 14:53:44 Originally by: Rodj Blake If I recall correctly, it was SF falsely claiming victory when PIE was off doing other, more important things. So if anything, the tactics that you will be using are similar to those employed by your partners in the troika of terror. Oh do shut up! We claimed to have superior win/loss ratio vs the entire Amarrian bloc (of which you played a small part) and the major point of PIE in the whole campaign was to bring other more courageous fighters into the war so they could hide the sound of you squealing. Details of Operation Slaughterhouse here If you are now "finished" with your "important things" perhaps you'd like to declare a war of your own against SF to show just how "false" our claims were? Didn't think so. Just keep your mouth shut on the subject of fighting if I were you Rodj. You really don't have a clue. Star Fraction is recruiting
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:54:00 - [37] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 14/06/2007 14:53:21 I personally would have to put my money on no Jovians showing up! Is this the "Poke it with a stick and see what happens approach"? I hope not because that can turn out real bad. I am curious to see what happens though! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 14:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 14/06/2007 14:53:44 Originally by: Rodj Blake If I recall correctly, it was SF falsely claiming victory when PIE was off doing other, more important things. So if anything, the tactics that you will be using are similar to those employed by your partners in the troika of terror. Oh do shut up! We claimed to have superior win/loss ratio vs the entire Amarrian bloc (of which you played a small part) and the major point of PIE in the whole campaign was to bring other more courageous fighters into the war so they could hide the sound of you squealing. Details of Operation Slaughterhouse here If you are now "finished" with your "important things" perhaps you'd like to declare a war of your own against SF to show just how "false" our claims were? Didn't think so. Just keep your mouth shut on the subject of fighting if I were you Rodj. You really don't have a clue. It looks as though Revan's distraction has arrived right on cue. If you ask your question again in a more appropriate place, I'll be sure to give it the attention that it deserves. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:14:00 - [39] Revan Why do exclude all but true Amarr? The golden fleet was composed of all segments of Amarrian society, all races of free men. If you want to defeat the Jovians amass a heavy fleet. A titan class vessel CAN be killed, ask Cyvok. It just requires a much heavier fleet than even the Golden Fleet brought against the jovians. /me roundhouse kicks ppl who use my awesomeness- Chuck Norris

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Ravin Abai Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:17:00 - [41] To answer your question, no the True Amarr have not forgotten Vak'Atioth. While the time may come for us to absolve ourselves in the eyes of God and do battle with the demonic Jove again, that time is not now. Even if it were the time, to think that I (or any other thinking Amarrian) would follow you into battle is ludicrous. You should go back to your villa and stick to slurping goblets of blood and stuffing your face with hors d'oeuvres. Crusading doesn't really suit you.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Vlad Cetes Revan Why do exclude all but true Amarr? The golden fleet was composed of all segments of Amarrian society, all races of free men. If you want to defeat the Jovians amass a heavy fleet. A titan class vessel CAN be killed, ask Cyvok. It just requires a much heavier fleet than even the Golden Fleet brought against the jovians. Your comment is very welcome and I do agree with it. To defeat the jovians we will need a heavy fleet. Although, the issue here is not numbers but it is to see what remains from the old Amarrian race, what legacy is still alife inside the veins of the so called true Amarrs. But one thing I have no doubt, for what is worth, I do believe Caldaris, gallenteans and even the sub races as the minmatars would raise armies if called in such quest. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:28:00 - [43] Originally by: Ravin Abai To answer your question, no the True Amarr have not forgotten Vak'Atioth. While the time may come for us to absolve ourselves in the eyes of God and do battle with the demonic Jove again, that time is not now. Even if it were the time, to think that I (or any other thinking Amarrian) would follow you into battle is ludicrous. You should go back to your villa and stick to slurping goblets of blood and stuffing your face with hors d'oeuvres. Crusading doesn't really suit you. In light of recent events neither is PIE. Another poor example of the Amarrian people. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Ravin Abai To answer your question, no the True Amarr have not forgotten Vak'Atioth. While the time may come for us to absolve ourselves in the eyes of God and do battle with the demonic Jove again, that time is not now. Even if it were the time, to think that I (or any other thinking Amarrian) would follow you into battle is ludicrous. You should go back to your villa and stick to slurping goblets of blood and stuffing your face with hors d'oeuvres. Crusading doesn't really suit you. The time is not now, says who? You? And the level of your reply shows again two very obvious things: 1- You still don't understand that I'm not asking for followers. Each true Amarr should take this duty to clean their shame and soul , it's a self duty. 2- It's not a crusade, it's a call for battle at enemies door. I know you are not familiar with any of the two above. For number one, you would replace for self flagelation and denial. For number 2, I believe again, the war against SF already said at all. Third, your tactic of using insults to hidde your cowardice, is already noted. You may change the tone. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:36:00 - [45] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/06/2007 15:35:24 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Ravin Abai To answer your question, no the True Amarr have not forgotten Vak'Atioth. While the time may come for us to absolve ourselves in the eyes of God and do battle with the demonic Jove again, that time is not now. Even if it were the time, to think that I (or any other thinking Amarrian) would follow you into battle is ludicrous. You should go back to your villa and stick to slurping goblets of blood and stuffing your face with hors d'oeuvres. Crusading doesn't really suit you. The time is not now, says who? You? And the level of your reply shows again two very obvious things: 1- You still don't understand that I'm not asking for followers. Each true Amarr should take this duty to clean their shame and soul , it's a self duty. 2- It's not a crusade, it's a call for battle at enemies door. I know you are not familiar with any of the two above. For number one, you would replace for self flagelation and denial. For number 2, I believe again, the war against SF already said at all. Third, your tactic of using insults to hidde your cowardice, is already noted. You may change the tone. When the time for the Jove to be Reclaimed is upon us, it will be announced by the Emperor. Not by PIE. Certainly not by you. Hence, until an Emperor says otherwise, the time to attack the Jove Empire is not now. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ravin Abai Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:38:00 - [46] The time is now? Who says so? You? It's my duty as a True Amarr not to follow heretics like you. I would just as soon answer your call for battle, as soon as you obey my command to turn yourself in to the Theology Council for trial. Do you have personal knowledge of my comportment during the war with Star Fraction? Were you there? Ohhh right I forgot! Your god-like powers grant you omniscience! Your tactic of using insults and hyperbolic proclamations to cover your insecurity and personal inadequacies, as well as gaping holes in your logic and your lack of respect within the capsuleer community has been noted. You may change your tone.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 15:41:00 - [47] Originally by: Ravin Abai The time is now? Who says so? You? It's my duty as a True Amarr not to follow heretics like you. I would just as soon answer your call for battle, as soon as you obey my command to turn yourself in to the Theology Council for trial. Do you have personal knowledge of my comportment during the war with Star Fraction? Were you there? Ohhh right I forgot! Your god-like powers grant you omniscience! Your tactic of using insults and hyperbolic proclamations to cover your insecurity and personal inadequacies, as well as gaping holes in your logic and your lack of respect within the capsuleer community has been noted. You may change your tone. Just like a coward to try to find faults with others instead of examining his own inadequacies. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Ravin Abai Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:01:00 - [48] Edited by: Ravin Abai on 14/06/2007 16:04:38 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Just like a coward to try to find faults with others instead of examining his own inadequacies. When considering the case of your "Thrice Illustrious Soverign," I don't really have to try to find her faults; they tend to leap out at me. Funny that you should call me a coward, tell me of your acheivements in battle. Do you stand atop a mountain of skulls of the millions of people who've died at your hands? I'll admit I'm no great warrior like my superiors in PIE. I graduated the Academy three months ago. However, should we meet somewhere in space I don't think you'll find my courage lacking.
Rakiro Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:04:00 - [49] I will be monitoring this closely... I strongly suspect the Jovians will not respond to your prodding simply because they are either too concerned with their own affairs or they simply will not consider the presence of a couple of dreadnoughts accompanied by some battleships a threat. If that happens to be the case then I fully expect a grandiose proclamation of victory and of how the Jovians where too terrified of your power to show their faces. If they do respond however, and as the esteemed Ms. Char has already pointed out you will have a tough and almost certainly fatal fight on your hands... For the sake of your crew and to spare you the humiliation of defeat I would strongly urge you not to proceed with this folly. -Rakiro
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Ravin Abai Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Just like a coward to try to find faults with others instead of examining his own inadequacies. When considering the case of your "Thrice Illustrious Soverign," I don't really have to try to find her faults; they tend to leap out at me. Funny that you should call me a coward, tell me of your acheivements in battle. Do you stand atop a pile of skulls of the millions of people who've died at your hands? I'll admit I'm no great warrior like my superiors in PIE, but should we meet somewhere in space I don't think you'll find my courage lacking. No I haven't stood at top of a mountain of skulls, I am still new to the capsuleer community. There will be time for that. Plenty of time. I suspect you are just as eager as I am for real battle against a common enemy. So will I see you there against the Jove? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac So will I see you there against the Jove? No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:14:00 - [52] Originally by: Revan Neferis I have no intentio of forcng an engagement, I'll call to battle and if they don't respond is because they might as well be dead inside their rotten diseased enclousure, or silentely ackowledging their defeat. So basically what you will be doing to go to Atioth and scream out loud: "If you don't come right here and fight me right now you're cowards"? To be honest, I won't be at all surprised if the Jovians decide to simply ignore you - to simply consider you irrelevant. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:15:00 - [53] Just wondering if you have invited any press along? I would say embeded but I think that should be a long distance thing! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Rakiro Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:17:00 - [54] Edited by: Rakiro on 14/06/2007 16:17:01 An additional thought... Since when did the Sani Sabik, or Neferis for that matter, care about reclaiming Amarrian honour? -Rakiro
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:28:00 - [55] Originally by: Rakiro Edited by: Rakiro on 14/06/2007 16:17:01 An additional thought... Since when did the Sani Sabik, or Neferis for that matter, care about reclaiming Amarrian honour? Reclaim amarrian honour is impossible. Reclaim the self duty of each true Amarrian who will take the quest, yes it is what will be done. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:30:00 - [56] Originally by: Rodj Blake If I recall correctly, it was SF falsely claiming victory when PIE was off doing other, more important things. So if anything, the tactics that you will be using are similar to those employed by your partners in the troika of terror. Your recollection is not correct. The Star Fraction has not claimed victory. The war is not over. We have had successful campaigns and operations within the context of the wider war but much remains to be done before we would claim victory. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Ravin Abai Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:31:00 - [57] As Rodj has said, PIE will never fly under the Sani Sabik banner, or stand shoulder to shoulder with Sani Sabik cultists under any banner. With that, I'm withdrawing my voice of reason from this discussion. Feel free to rant and rave about your fearsome and arcane power and the cowardice and ineptitude of your enemies in my absence. You heretics are a lost cause, I'm done wading in filth.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:31:00 - [58] Originally by: Hooch Flux Just wondering if you have invited any press along? I would say embeded but I think that should be a long distance thing! No, I haven't invited the press. As I said above, this is a duty of blood almost like a ritual that should be done by each True Amarr who prefers to not excuse themselves with a thousand reasons to not undertake what their ancestors once bravely did. Each true Amarr who will be there, independent of the Jove response will have to carry no longer the burden of this historical defeat in their souls. This is the payment for this effort. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Casserina Leshrac So will I see you there against the Jove? No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. Yes, because they are already under the command of shame. Suit yourself. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:38:00 - [60] Originally by: Ravin Abai As Rodj has said, PIE will never fly under the Sani Sabik banner, or stand shoulder to shoulder with Sani Sabik cultists under any banner. In fact, he said PIE would never fly under the command of a heretic, a rather more generally cast remark. I find myself wondering if this is merely a question of command or if PIE would never even fly or co-operate with those they consider heretics in extended military operations. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:42:00 - [61] I am sorry Reven, AS policy will not allow us to fly under the command of a Jester. I will however inform Sidyous right away, i am sure he will appritiate the joke. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Reash I am sorry Reven, AS policy will not allow us to fly under the command of a Jester. I will however inform Sidyous right away, i am sure he will appritiate the joke. Oh I understand now why I would never see you commanding CVA operations. And please, don't apologise to me, your cowardice is shame enough, no need to bend any further. Who is Sydious? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Habraka Canes Pugnaces	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Rodj Blake When the time for the Jove to be Reclaimed is upon us, it will be announced by the Emperor. Not by PIE. Certainly not by you. Hence, until an Emperor says otherwise, the time to attack the Jove Empire is not now. And when will you have a new Emperor? In 3 years, or 5, or 10? In the mean time the once strong and proud Amarr Empire is reduced to some backwater systems in Providence? Sani Sabik cults are offering a temporary half of hostilities with Amarr paramilitary organisations in order to attack and defeat common enemies. But I understand, it's easier to 'fight' a few Sani Sabik cults, post a few posts on the forums saying you're great and everyone who stands in your way will be destroyed instead of actually for once taking up arms and attack a strong enemy. Go ahead, lose another 100 T1 cruisers while killing a battleship or two and post some meaningless victory posts on the Intergalactic Summit, while we get our hands bloody. We might not win, but at least we'll have tried. That's more then can be said about your kind.
Ravin Abai Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 16:47:00 - [64] Edited by: Ravin Abai on 14/06/2007 16:51:09 Edit: I'll let my superiors answer your question, Cosmopolite, it was unwise of me to speak so hastily.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.06.14 17:15:00 - [65] Edited by: Janu Hull on 14/06/2007 17:14:39 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 14/06/2007 14:53:44 Originally by: Rodj Blake If I recall correctly, it was SF falsely claiming victory when PIE was off doing other, more important things. So if anything, the tactics that you will be using are similar to those employed by your partners in the troika of terror. Oh do shut up! We claimed to have superior win/loss ratio vs the entire Amarrian bloc (of which you played a small part) and the major point of PIE in the whole campaign was to bring other more courageous fighters into the war so they could hide the sound of you squealing. Details of Operation Slaughterhouse here If you are now "finished" with your "important things" perhaps you'd like to declare a war of your own against SF to show just how "false" our claims were? Didn't think so. Just keep your mouth shut on the subject of fighting if I were you Rodj. You really don't have a clue. Is there any chance the Star Fraction will be joining the Sani Sabik on their little crusade? If the goal is to actually engage the Jove, it might better motivate them to offer them two targets so richly deserving of annihilation.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 17:36:00 - [66] Originally by: Habraka Sani Sabik cults are offering a temporary half of hostilities with Amarr paramilitary organisations in order to attack and defeat common enemies. I believe that it would be more beneficial for two of the Empire's enemies to fight each other. That way, both will be weakened. Not that there will be a fight. Quote: But I understand, it's easier to 'fight' a few Sani Sabik cults, post a few posts on the forums saying you're great and everyone who stands in your way will be destroyed instead of actually for once taking up arms and attack a strong enemy. Maybe you should add up the numbers of pilots currently at war with PIE and compare them with the number PIE pilots before making statements like that. Quote: Go ahead, lose another 100 T1 cruisers while killing a battleship or two and post some meaningless victory posts on the Intergalactic Summit, while we get our hands bloody. We might not win, but at least we'll have tried. That's more then can be said about your kind. I do not recall ever boasting about losing a hundred tech one cruisers. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 17:40:00 - [67] Originally by: Rodj Blake No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. So your foolish pride will not even allow to work with us against a common foe. Let it be known the Sani Sabik is not the party responsible for divisiveness of the Amarrian people. An opportunity stands before all Amarrians to be united against a common enemy. And yet you cast it aside. You are an embarrassment to the Empire you serve. Lady Neferis has found an opportunity to exploit against the Jove. Now name me one Amarrian who does not wish to see the defeat of Jove, to remove the stain of shame on the Empire. Have you no honor? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:17:00 - [68] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Rodj Blake No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. So your foolish pride will not even allow to work with us against a common foe. I have a feeling that most Amarrans would rather work with the Jove to destroy Revan Neferis than the other way around (after all, their crime is the lesser one). She's no Amarr. She has foolishly squandered everything that is Amarr. Faith, loyalty and obedience to the Emperor and Empire, Revan has none of that. All that the True Amarr share with that woman is similar genes. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:19:00 - [69] Of course, the real question is, why call it "revenge" in the first place? The Jovians didn't do anything to the Amarrians that the Amarrians weren't trying to do to the Jovians. We're all worldly people. Let's face facts. The Imperial Navy invaded Jovian space. It was ... 'driven back,' shall we say. After the battle, the Jovians made no move to press their advantage and destroy the Amarrian's ability to make war in the future. So what do you want to avenge in the first place? Dead invaders? Racial hubris? Surely you have something better to do. _
Habraka Canes Pugnaces	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:25:00 - [70] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Rodj Blake No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. So your foolish pride will not even allow to work with us against a common foe. I have a feeling that most Amarrans would rather work with the Jove to destroy Revan Neferis than the other way around (after all, their crime is the lesser one). She's no Amarr. She has foolishly squandered everything that is Amarr. Faith, loyalty and obedience to the Emperor and Empire, Revan has none of that. All that the True Amarr share with that woman is similar genes. So uhm, the Amarr prefer working with a foreign race that can wipe out the Empire when they want to in order to fight a cult of True Amarr who offer to help the Empire to defeat said foreign race? Following that logic the Amarr would prefer fighting alongside the Minmatar rebels to destroy the Sani Sabik if the Sani Sabik offered to help the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar Republic? The logic you follow is even worse than most things ascribed to Lady Neferis. At least I see sense in what Revan proposes, you on the other hand, seem to have used to much drugs to be considered sane, especially after reading your statement.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:30:00 - [71] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/06/2007 18:32:09 Originally by: Janu Hull Is there any chance the Star Fraction will be joining the Sani Sabik on their little crusade? As the Star Fraction is not led exclusively by True Amarr the answer should be fairly simple to deduce in terms of the planned operation as set out in the original post. The Cosmopolite PS. ...oh and Ensign Abai, I quite understand that your most interesting views (which I did note but will not reproduce out of courtesy) were a trifle out-of-step with PIE's public line and I look forward to the considered position of your superiors on the question of flying with heretics and those who aid heretics. The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:33:00 - [72] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Rodj Blake No PIE vessels will ever be put under the command of a heretic. So your foolish pride will not even allow to work with us against a common foe. Let it be known the Sani Sabik is not the party responsible for divisiveness of the Amarrian people. An opportunity stands before all Amarrians to be united against a common enemy. And yet you cast it aside. You are an embarrassment to the Empire you serve. Lady Neferis has found an opportunity to exploit against the Jove. Now name me one Amarrian who does not wish to see the defeat of Jove, to remove the stain of shame on the Empire. Have you no honor? It's not a case of pride, it's a case of doing what's best. As for honour, yes, we have plenty. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:52:00 - [73] Originally by: Habraka So uhm, the Amarr prefer working with a foreign race that can wipe out the Empire when they want to in order to fight a cult of True Amarr who offer to help the Empire to defeat said foreign race? Following that logic the Amarr would prefer fighting alongside the Minmatar rebels to destroy the Sani Sabik if the Sani Sabik offered to help the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar Republic? The logic you follow is even worse than most things ascribed to Lady Neferis. At least I see sense in what Revan proposes, you on the other hand, seem to have used to much drugs to be considered sane, especially after reading your statement. The Jove are pagans, not heretics. The Jove has never pursued an aggressive course against Amarr, indeed, they didn't even try to press their advantage after Vak'atioth. Infact they seem to have no intentions what so ever of pursuing hostile action against Amarr. This as opposed to a band of heretics with every intention of trying to corrupt, hurt or destroy the Empire and infront of all trying to corrupt, hurt or destroy the True Faith. I'm not saying that the Amarr empire would/should work with either (it's not my place to do so). But if the Amarr empire had to chose the choice would be an easy one. The fairly benign foreigner or someone you know is your sworn enemy trying to destroy everything you believe in? Gee. I must be on drugs because I chose to not chose to ally myself with a sworn enemy of the empire. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
3ll3 Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.14 18:55:00 - [74] I know you wont respond because I'm not a Amarrian but what I'd like to know is save for the small numbers of corporations form the Jovian Empire that is operating out side of Jovian Space, how will you be able to attack them? No one is able to enter Jovian Space with out there wanting them to, So how do you attack some one you can not reach? Verus Amare Vinceres Omnis
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:15:00 - [75] Originally by: 3ll3 I know you wont respond because I'm not a Amarrian but what I'd like to know is save for the small numbers of corporations form the Jovian Empire that is operating out side of Jovian Space, how will you be able to attack them? No one is able to enter Jovian Space with out there wanting them to, So how do you attack some one you can not reach? I have no issues answering to questions pertinent to the thread, and excetions is always made for that. No, I do not have the intention to find or hack a way inside Jove. I believe their space is contaminated, disgusting and impure. A full diseased civilization, living in clausure inside and feeding into their own dreadful fate. Not an athmosphere I would allow myself or any of the pilots to be exposed to. As per how Jove will deal with the battle, it's their problem. They managed to deal with Vak'Atioth. We will see what comes now. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:44:00 - [76] This seems like a most interesting battle, I would love to observe and see what combat power the Jovians unleash, if at all. /me roundhouse kicks ppl who use my awesomeness- Chuck Norris
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:09:00 - [77] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 14/06/2007 20:08:25 Better hope the pirate types don't hear about this, they love fireworks and big explosions! I can see them all now, sitting 200km away, drinking beer and Yarring every time something goes pop. I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:44:00 - [78] Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 14/06/2007 20:45:29 Although this comment has likely been made before, I'll toss it out anyway in the hope that repetition will serve to underscore an earlier point. Madam Neferis, Vak'Atioth is not to be reserved for True Amarr. Other bloodlines fought there with us and served us well; to discredit their sacrifice now would only shame us. As for 'revenge,' well, how does one avenge a mistake? By not making it again. We've a sacred duty in Reclamation, and in the spread of the Faith. Parading about in forgotten systems will only prove a useless waste of strength. This does not even take into account the fact that your associations, whilst likely to possess credible goals and lofty ideals, do not represent the Amarrian mainstream, or even a plurality therein, nor does it take the history of destructive behavior your contigent is tied to into account. I somehow doubt that you're the one to order vengeance on an unseen, unreachable enemy, no matter your success, your financial wealth, your artistic endeavors in jewelrymaking, or the popularity of your parties.
Jonny Damordred Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:52:00 - [79] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac In addition to the Jovian reactions it will come down to a battle plan that can be flexible should the Jovians have something up their sleeve. Anything would be better than standard Amarrain (lets line up and die in a pretty formation) tactics. Cheers, Jonny D. -----
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.14 22:12:00 - [80] Ah, my favorite time of year: June. The month of warmth on many planets. The month of vacation for schoolchildren the cluster over. Oh? I shouldn't forget. Seems June is now the month of suicidal lemming runs into Jovian space. Honestly, Revan, ran out of other insane things to do? Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.06.14 23:10:00 - [81] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Let it be known the Sani Sabik is not the party responsible for divisiveness of the Amarrian people. Actually, you are, as your little circus has divided from the way of life of the Amarr people. It's pretty amusing that your little group actually thinks they can do anything other than bring more shame on your people, especially against a foe that outclasses even the Caldari, whose advanced technology rather outclasses your old fleets. As for your leader's "Immortality" (she did say immortality, and not immorality right?), perhaps she should spend less time ranting, and alittle time realizing who she relies on for her "immortality". I look forward to the Sani Sabik spin once there's no sign of Jovian vessels, no doubt due to the might of what will be a small band of misfits. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.15 00:20:00 - [82] Edited by: Verone on 15/06/2007 00:19:26 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac should the Jovians have something up their sleeve. You even doubt that the Directorate would take the opportunity to test some random prototype weapon of mass destruction? I have a feeling this will end in flames. I also have a feeling that it'll be the Jove who are cooking the marshmallows, if they even bother to show up. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.15 00:21:00 - [83] Edited by: Archbishop on 15/06/2007 00:23:25 I must admit I seem to be becoming a bit forgetful in my old age. Still given past memories of previous incarnations of Revan I do find this version very interesting. While proclaiming the Empire needs to "seek revenge" Revan also seems to forget this is an Empire in structure she has committed herself to overthrowing and molding in her own twisted image. A question then would be why would you seek "revenge" for something done to an Empire you despise in its current form? While I do agree the Jovians are hideous Godless creatures who have suffered the wrath of God via their Jovian Disease I hardly believe someone with the dubious background of Lady Revan Nefaris is the one to lead any kind of "campaign" against them or anyone else on behalf of the Empire. Thus calls of "revenge" are moot coming from one who would destroy Amarr as we know it anyway. When we've seen so many "versions" of Revan from Amarrian loyalist to pirate to blood worshiper to tetrimon follower to anarchist lover we really have to wonder if even you truly know what you are. Either way like everyone else I await with anxious anticipation your proclomation of "total victory" against the Jovians. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Habraka Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.06.15 01:04:00 - [84] Edited by: Habraka on 15/06/2007 01:03:46 Originally by: Archbishop When we've seen so many "versions" of Revan from Amarrian loyalist to pirate to blood worshiper to tetrimon follower to anarchist lover we really have to wonder if even you truly know what you are. Only narrow-minded people like you think in boxes. In my opinion it's perfectly possible to be a Sani Sabik loyalist, a Tetrimon symphatiser, an anarchist lover, a pirate (aren't anarchists and Sani Sabik pirates per definition) and still be considered a True Amarr. You see, the Tetrimon wanted to revert the Moral Reforms and reinstate The Reclaiming. Some Sani Sabik sects, like House Nosferatu and Bloodveil want the same to happen, as it suits our vision of a strong Empire ruling over the known universe. Now, since the Empire and the established order prefer to avoid war with strong enemies, the Jove for example, it has been decided that anyone favoring a more agressive Empire, like the Sani Sabik and the Tetrimon are heretics and must be banned from the Empire. With being banned, comes the brand as anarchist and pirate, as we defy the current ruling order. If the Moral Reforms could be undone, and the Empire would reclaim it's rightfull place under the stars, we would be considered the loyalists and you the anarchist pirate. But of course, in your world people have to behave and think exactly like you or they don't exist. Close your eyes, count to ten, and hope, no, pray, we'll be gone when you open you eyes again. If you are still alive by that time...
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.15 01:08:00 - [85] Have fun fighting the Jovians. I'll be there to salvage your wrecks.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.15 01:20:00 - [86] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 15/06/2007 01:19:33 A few observations: This hardly seems in need of mentioning, but infomorphs aren't immortal. We're vulnerable to data corruption, communications failure, cloning errors, and having our fleshly vessels destroyed outside of a context in which we can be copied. We're "differently" mortal. The Jove aren't going to stoop to responding to a rabble of pod pilots using their own technology (pods) to posture at them. This proposed bit of interstellar theatre will probably draw mild Jovian irritation, if that, and they'll most likely retaliate only by sleeping in. Of course, I greatly doubt that actually challenging the Jove is the idea, here. At an educated guess, it works like this: Revan Neferis calls for the True Amarr to rally in defiance of the Jove. The True Amarr, collectively, show little to no interest in empty gestures at superior foes, and fail to turn up. Lady Neferis then proceeds to point at this show of "weakness" as a demonstration of the corrupt, cowardly, and fallen state of the True Amarr, and to point out how much better off (read: stronger) they'd be under Sani Sabik rule. She proceeds to carry out her bit of defiance on her own (to thunderous silence from the Jovian side), and trumpet her own relative bravery over that of other True Amarr for the next year or two. In the unlikely event that the Jove blow her up, she'll happily declare that they obviously consider her a threat, and achieve her political scoring-of-points that way, instead. In the equally unlikely event that the Amarr actually turn up, she'll claim to have demonstrated her authority and influence. Again, political capital results. Does this sound about right, Lady Neferis? Or did I miss a twist, somewhere?
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.15 03:52:00 - [87] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Does this sound about right, Lady Neferis? Or did I miss a twist, somewhere? You missed two options. 1. True Amarr show up and attempt to blow her out of the sky. 2. True Amarr show up and it's a Sani Sabik trap. Otherwise it was a nice summary. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 05:29:00 - [88] The pieces of a game of chess may always be placed at their ruled positions. What happens after that will depend of the strategy of each oponent. The Universe operates under the laws that small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. La reine de veu will stand and will do what it's supposed to do. Consider Vak'Atioth as an event of time paradox for us. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:40:00 - [89] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Aria Jenneth Does this sound about right, Lady Neferis? Or did I miss a twist, somewhere? You missed two options. 1. True Amarr show up and attempt to blow her out of the sky. 2. True Amarr show up and it's a Sani Sabik trap. Otherwise it was a nice summary. You can rule out option two as SS disperse at the speed of lightning as soon as anything remotely resembling a fleet fitted for combat turns up. Then again we could jump in single or bring Battle Bestowers to raise enough interest. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:49:00 - [90] Originally by: Tharrn Then again we could jump in single or bring Battle Bestowers to raise enough interest. You could at least have used this tactic to fight the wars against SF and SS. To see you at space even in a bestower would be such a sight "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:50:00 - [91] This thread degenerated fast after my joke. I rarely make jokes these days, it'll remind me not to make another for a while even though I know it wasn't that bad. ----------------------------------------------
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:59:00 - [92] Originally by: Tharrn You can rule out option two as SS disperse at the speed of lightning as soon as anything remotely resembling a fleet fitted for combat turns up. Then again we could jump in single or bring Battle Bestowers to raise enough interest. Lets say, it's a Star Fraction trap then. But both options are more likely than the Jove actually appearing with a fleet in Atioth. The system has little significance to them, and a cultist loony has even less significance to them than it has to us (after all, for us it's a heresy, to them it's merely idiocy). ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 09:09:00 - [93] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Tharrn You can rule out option two as SS disperse at the speed of lightning as soon as anything remotely resembling a fleet fitted for combat turns up. Then again we could jump in single or bring Battle Bestowers to raise enough interest. Lets say, it's a Star Fraction trap then. But both options are more likely than the Jove actually appearing with a fleet in Atioth. The system has little significance to them, and a cultist loony has even less significance to them than it has to us (after all, for us it's a heresy, to them it's merely idiocy). I'm sure that idiocy was the word of the day after the so Proud Amarrian Empire battle at Val'Atioth. The only more disgraceful thing after that, is the end result: Jovians managed to put so much fear into the hearts of true Amarrs that they result to insult and cheap rethoric to avoid the embarassing truth: Cowardice on it's fashion form!! "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.15 09:32:00 - [94] Originally by: Revan Neferis I'm sure that idiocy was the word of the day after the so Proud Amarrian Empire battle at Val'Atioth. The only more disgraceful thing after that, is the end result: Jovians managed to put so much fear into the hearts of true Amarrs that they result to insult and cheap rethoric to avoid the embarassing truth: Cowardice on it's fashion form!! Look. I've flown through Atioth quite a few times, both in my youth when I studied at the SOCT and later as a Pod-pilot. It's a dump. 4 Asteroid belts (featuring pretty useless ore), a bunch of moons. No bases, no really habitable planets. No nothing. I might fly through it broadcasting "All Jove are dirty Fedos, and they're too afraid to face me", the Jove still wouldn't appear, much less in an attempt to engage me. Why would they? The only reason to even be in the system is because it's between somewhere and somewhere else. If you believe otherwise you're a looney...well, loonier. But of course, as Miss Jenneth noted, that isn't the point is it? It's all just one more cheap political stunt from Revan Neferis. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 10:34:00 - [95] The art of politics also requires ships to be at space in actual facts. I know it hurts a lot the Pride of Amarrians to speak about Atioth, was an humiliating defeat. But it happened. Sorry to dissapoint you but the political stunf was made by Amarrians. No voice here that is no able to place a ship at space, whee it happened to challenge destiny is simply nule. Like yours. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.15 11:15:00 - [96] Casserina: Do you truly believe The Sani Sabik will be able to conquer the Jovians? The Empire, at the hight of its power, was unable to make a dent in them, and you believe the "small" force Revan will be able to amass shall prevail? If they do deem it necessary to deal with the situation, I forsee the same outcome as the first encounter. I agree that all Amarrians understand (not just True Amarrians) that it is their duty to eventually "reclaim" the system. But, beating back the Jovians? This infers to me that they're sitting on our doorstep in conflict with us, but as far as I can tell they've become reclusive and don't meddle as much as they used to (though, they could've just gotten better at covering their tracks). To speak of yourself and your actions, as if they define what it is to be a True Amarrian, is an insult not only to the Loyalist bloc but to myself (and many others I'm sure) as well. The actions perpetrated by Revan and your alliance are appauling on many levels, if that is your "definition" of what a True Amarrian is, and you gained any real weight within the cluster, I will start looking into gene resquencing. You are correct in that an opportunity stands before all Amarrians to be united against a common enemy. However that enemy was already chosen long before many of us became capsuleers. That enemy is those who would see the destruction of the Empire (that is the annilation of our race, and not those just looking for another reformation). These have existed since we first started the reclaiming, and new ones pop up everyday. Yet you don't see The Sani Sabik lifting a finger to stop these types, on the contrary, you sit in lower domain acting like a parasite sapping the strength of the Empire from endeavours that could actually benefit it.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.15 11:35:00 - [97] Revan: The time is now, says who? You? You say this is a call to action in order to wipe away the shame, cleanse our souls, and unburden ourselves from a defeat that isn't ours. I left those behind when I became a pod pilot, and a different approach will be needed to sway me, as well as many others. Our ancestors failed because of their hubris, something I'm sure you know all about, and will lead to the same outcome in whatever endeavour you pursue. Trying to rectify the mistakes of our ancestors is not something the capsuleer community should be "burdening" themselves with. Looking at the now and the future will be far more productive.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.15 11:51:00 - [98] Habraka: Revan is also narrow-minded, for she only thinks within her box. Revan believes True Amarrians are above all others, even within her sect, further, that her interpretations of the philosophy are the only right ones, and than, that all those who do not abscribe to her "faith" are beneath her and aren't worth the gift of life. If some of the Sani Sabik sects truly wished the reinstatment of the reclaiming, they would stop preying upon the empire and join those who have already reinstated it, ie the CVA. Also, "But of course, in your world people have to behave and think exactly like you or they don't exist.", were you talking about the Loyalists and/or Revan? Because to say that is just how the Loyalists view things is jaded. Revan has many times upon the IGS stated views that creates the exact same world.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 18:59:00 - [99] The point of this discussion Tenebrion is not about the Sani Sabik conquering the Jove, rather it is the retaking of Vak'Atioth from the Jove. Certainly no Amarr in their right mind (be it Sani Sabik or Loyalist) can argue that the loss of this battle was the catalyst of events that has marked the collective psyche of the Amarr people. Does it matter who it was who came up with the idea? It is the perfect rallying point to unify the the Amarr as one. The be unified around a simple idea... a burning desire if you will. It is something that we all can agree upon. Would the Sani Sabik join in an True Amarr only operation if hosted by another corp/alliance? I will not speak for my Sovereign, rather for myself. I am an Amarr, I may be holdless and a heretic, but I am Amarr none the less. I would go Vak'Atioth. I would make the journey and the effort to kill some Jove because they interfered with the reclaiming even if it means certain death for my clone. I would do for the Amarr, even though my views are different from those in the Empire. I would do this for every Amarr who is a holder and holdless. For my Sovereign to lowliest of the lesser races slave or free. Because as an Amarr it is our responsibility to set the example above all others. The sacrifice that the Sovereign is willing to make in the attempt to drive what ever Jove presence is the Vak'Atioth. So far comments listed here have only attempted to ridicule her idea for a just and proper vengeance against the Amarr people. And yet there are no voices that object the need for retribution, just the person who came up with the idea. Most of which are from the Loyalist bloc. And yet none have offered up a plan or constructive opinion on how to beat the Jove. You will realize that even the Heir apparent is noticeably quiet on this matter. And there are no words from Chamberlain or Theology Council who instructed us that it is the Amarr that has a destiny. This philosophy is no different withing the ranks the Sani Sabik or the Sovereign. There is a leader among us who has made the decision. Who is willing to set the example for every Amarr to follow. To inspire the lesser races. I think you know whom I speak of. Sovereign Victor! Amarr Victor! Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.15 19:25:00 - [100] The Jove lay no claim to Atioth though so it's not possible to take it back from them. They have become utterly insular to the point of myth. Your calls will be ignored by the Jovians as they care not for the affairs of the Empires and their low-sec sons. The defeat at Vak'Atioth may have happened, but it would not be the first time God has tested us and we have come up short of the requirements, forget not what happened to Amash-Akura when he forsook the Sefrim. In the same way he was galvanised with new purpose by their departure; we as a people were.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 20:55:00 - [101] Originally by: Raane Thyandar The Jove lay no claim to Atioth though so it's not possible to take it back from them. They have become utterly insular to the point of myth. Your calls will be ignored by the Jovians as they care not for the affairs of the Empires and their low-sec sons. The defeat at Vak'Atioth may have happened, but it would not be the first time God has tested us and we have come up short of the requirements, forget not what happened to Amash-Akura when he forsook the Sefrim. In the same way he was galvanised with new purpose by their departure; we as a people were. I beg to differ try remembering your history before you start pontificating. Vak'Atioth was part of the Jove Empire. You are correct though about this is a test. But this is not the test of an Empire, or of Religion. But of an idea. And that is the Amarr have a destiny to be the shapers of New Eden. The Sovereign has asked all True Amarr, regardless of affilation, regardless of faith to re-challenge the Jove for Vak'Atioth. Do you back down so easily from a challenge? Will you set the fine example as all of those within your corp or will leave aiding the Empire in the Reclaiming. The choice is yours Lieutenant. Make the right one join us in Vak'Atioth. Let vengeance be served, let Amarr honor be satisfied. Sovereign victor! Amarr Victor! Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.15 21:01:00 - [102] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 15/06/2007 21:04:02 There are other challenges far closer to home that need to be dealt with before running off and hunting ghosts and myths. For one, I can think of two peoples that were once a part of the Empire, yet no longer are. The reclaiming you wish to institute should be directed at them, one with diplomacy, they other with lasers.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.15 21:29:00 - [103] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Raane Thyandar The Jove lay no claim to Atioth though so it's not possible to take it back from them. They have become utterly insular to the point of myth. Your calls will be ignored by the Jovians as they care not for the affairs of the Empires and their low-sec sons. The defeat at Vak'Atioth may have happened, but it would not be the first time God has tested us and we have come up short of the requirements, forget not what happened to Amash-Akura when he forsook the Sefrim. In the same way he was galvanised with new purpose by their departure; we as a people were. I beg to differ try remembering your history before you start pontificating. Vak'Atioth was part of the Jove Empire. Yes, it was a part of the Jove Empire. But they are no longer there, and no longer claim sovereignty over it. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.15 21:33:00 - [104] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 15/06/2007 21:33:33 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac I beg to differ try remembering your history before you start pontificating. Vak'Atioth was part of the Jove Empire. The Jove Empire laid claim to Vak'Atioth in those days. It's now Atioth, which the Jove Empire lays no claim to at all. As for your seconds statement. From your point of view it may be a "sovreign laying down a challenge to the Jove and all True Amarr". From my point of view it's the ramblings of an enemy of the Amarr Empire, advocating a pointless effort for ulterior motives. Even if there was the faintest chance she didn't do this for her own personal gain it would be because even after all this time Revan Neferis is not mentally strong enough deal with the death of Jamyl Sarum and is still pursing her twisted vision of what the Empire would have been under a Sarum Empress. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 21:59:00 - [105] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Revan Neferis is not mentally strong enough deal with the death of Jamyl Sarum and is still pursing her twisted vision of what the Empire would have been under a Sarum Empress. Jamyl Sarum is not dead. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.15 22:11:00 - [106] All this talk about kicking some Jovian behind sounds fine and dandy, but unless I can see it happen with my two eyes it just sounds like idealistic dreaming. Idealistic dreaming never works in the real world. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo /me roundhouse kicks ppl who use my awesomeness- Chuck Norris
Sinia Shadow Council	Posted - 2007.06.15 23:06:00 - [107] Edited by: Sinia on 15/06/2007 23:05:06 Perhaps pick one goal and stick to it rather than changing goals every few weeks?
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.15 23:27:00 - [108] Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, it was a part of the Jove Empire. But they are no longer there, and no longer claim sovereignty over it. Hence Raane's point is a valid one. Your point is invalid considering that the Empire does not hold Sovereignty over it. The fleet was defeated at Vak'Atioth. How long must Amarr people will have to endure with this embarassment? Hence, the opportunity provided to all True Amarr to reclaim Vak'Atioth for the Empire. It no longer matters what is in the system. Just that this is the system where the Amarr faced the greatest defeat. There will be a reckoning. And the Sovereign has decided that she will be the one to battle with the Jove. I should add that she is not doing is because she is the Thrice Sovereign of the Sani Sabik, but rather as an Amarr for the Amarr. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.16 06:24:00 - [109] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 16/06/2007 06:23:33 Casserina: "The sacrifice that the Sovereign is willing to make in the attempt to drive what ever Jove presence is the Vak'Atioth." What sacrifice would that be? She has already stated that she is immortal, so her death cannot be a sacrifice. She has professed about her immense wealth, so assests aren't really a sacrifice. The only sacrifice I can see, is that of the crews upon your ships that will most likely die. "And yet there are no voices that object the need for retribution, just the person who came up with the idea." Did you read my posts? The one specifically towards Revan. Unless I was horribly misinterpreted, I'm pretty sure I'm that voice. "And yet none have offered up a plan or constructive opinion on how to beat the Jove." The reason for this is because there are far more urgent matters that need "beaten" before we chase off after a people that are already dying out without our help. "There is a leader among us who has made the decision. Who is willing to set the example for every Amarr to follow. I should add that she is not doing is because she is the Thrice Sovereign of the Sani Sabik, but rather as an Amarr for the Amarr." I'm more partial to making my own decisions, and don't really need someone to tell me what I should be doing to prove I am a True Amarrian. As towards setting an example and being an Amarrian for the Amarrians, are you serious? Sitting in lower domain poping innocent Amarrian citizens is far from exemplary behaviour and clearly shows that she has no regard for the Amarrian people.
Vendrin Caldari APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.16 11:05:00 - [110] Edited by: Vendrin on 16/06/2007 11:08:39 You know, I'm just a lowly Caldari(you know, the race the Jove first gave pod pilot tech too, and the first non jove to be able to use the technology), but it seems to me, that if all of you just stopped responding to the insane Sani Sabik, her idiocy, might just disappear from GalNet, and allow us all to return to matters that are of actual concern and relevance to capsuleer pilots. _____________________________________ APEX Conglomerate is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.16 13:02:00 - [111] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness What sacrifice would that be? She has already stated that she is immortal, so her death cannot be a sacrifice. She has professed about her immense wealth, so assests aren't really a sacrifice. The only sacrifice I can see, is that of the crews upon your ships that will most likely die. It has been a century since the last battle between the Amarr people and Jove. Are you telling me that we as a people are incapable of such challenge? I find that hard to believe. I don't know what we she will be personally sacrificing, but I know she did not come to this decision lightly. She made it as an Amarr, for the Amarr. This is no longer about merely being Sani Sabik, rather about being Amarr. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Did you read my posts? The one specifically towards Revan. Unless I was horribly misinterpreted, I'm pretty sure I'm that voice. A lone voice Tenebrion. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac "And yet none have offered up a plan or constructive opinion on how to beat the Jove." Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness The reason for this is because there are far more urgent matters that need "beaten" before we chase off after a people that are already dying out without our help. Yes the removal of the Minmatar terrorists from Providence. I am certain that that is a nice feather in the Empire's cap. But what do you expect? The inital cause of the Rebellion is directly tied to Vak'Atioth. I think if the battle fleet never left, the Minmatar would've better of their rebellion. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness I'm more partial to making my own decisions, and don't really need someone to tell me what I should be doing to prove I am a True Amarrian. As towards setting an example and being an Amarrian for the Amarrians, are you serious? Sitting in lower domain poping innocent Amarrian citizens is far from exemplary behaviour and clearly shows that she has no regard for the Amarrian people. I see you wish to bring up our military operations in Kheram where we were interdicting cargo heading into lower Providence into the hands of our enemies. Those have been concluded for some time. All the ships that we seized denied our enemies vital resources against us. There was nothing innocent about them. Of course those actions were performed by the Sani Sabik Alliance which is comprised of all races. Not just the Amarr. There is a difference here. The Sani Sabik will not be going to Vak'Atioth, instead it will only be those True Amarr who will have made the choice to go. I take it I won't be seeing you in this glorious battle when the time comes? Victor Sovereign! Victor Amarr! Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.16 13:09:00 - [112] The case here is very simple. Do you want the truth, here it is: Our Universe has reached a pinnacle of self-empowerment and respect individuality rare or unmatched in history. The entire culture -- from fashion magazines to the VRs -- positively screams the matchless worth of the individual, and glories in eccentricity, nonconformity, independent judgment, and self-determination. And yet, while people are encouraged to revel in their individuality and incalculable self-worth, comes the so called "loyalists" to continually advise that, when confronted with the threat of lethal impact, we should not dare to confront, but simply give the circunstance a "non-important label" while waiting for "Gods hands" to take the case. Val'Atioth is bathed with 200 Amarrian ships who once carried Amarrian leaders and Officials, crew, their hope and dreams. Val'Atioth is marked in time and space with blood and shame. Mr. darkness was correct. I have no regard to the Amarr Empire that we know now. "Cowardice" and "self-respect" have largely disappeared from media discourse. In their place we are offered "self-esteem" as the bellwether of success and a proxy for dignity. "Self-respect" implies that one recognizes standards, and judges oneself worthy by the degree to which one lives up to them. "Self-esteem" simply means that one feels good about oneself. "Dignity" used to refer to the self-mastery and fortitude with which a person conducted himself in the face of life's vicissitudes and the boorish behavior of others. Now, judging by campus speech codes, dignity requires that we never encounter a discouraging word and that others be coerced into acting respectfully, evidently on the assumption that we are powerless to prevent our degradation if exposed to the demeaning behavior of others. These are signposts proclaiming the insubstantiality of Amarr Empire character, the hollowness of its souls. I do not intend to Revenge Val'Atioth for this. When La Reine de veu opens fire at Val'Atioth time and space will merge. When the first explosion occurs from the enemy line a new blood will replace the ancient ones. Immortality is not about the body. It's about the soul. Immortality is the ability to merge time and make it one. Val'Atioth is no past as long as it haunts generation after generation with shame. Shame, well deserved now for this generation who makes The Empire a Nation of cowards and shirkers. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.16 17:15:00 - [113] Originally by: Revan Neferis Shame, well deserved now for this generation who makes The Empire a Nation of cowards and shirkers. Did I call it, or did I call it? Originally by: Revan Neferis Our Universe has reached a pinnacle of self-empowerment and respect individuality rare or unmatched in history. The entire culture -- from fashion magazines to the VRs -- positively screams the matchless worth of the individual, and glories in eccentricity, nonconformity, independent judgment, and self-determination. Please speak for yourself, Lady Neferis. Mainstream pod pilot culture may work this way, but among the non-pod pilot classes, the glory of the individual is the focus of the Gallente, the Gallente, and the Gallente. Or does the rest of humanity not matter? I should note that, as your comments seem to be aimed mainly at Amarrian pod pilots, the Amarr Empire itself considers such pilots to be quite highly suspect due to spiritual corruption brought on by cloning. You're hardly talking to the Empire by talking to them; nor would you "save" the Empire by convincing them.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.16 17:41:00 - [114] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Or does the rest of humanity not matter? Yes they do not matter. As words about the affairs of true Amarrians do not matter coming from a low born Caldari as yourself. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
William Romeo Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.06.16 17:43:00 - [115] I eagerly await, along with everyone else, the lack of reports to come after you you go and nothing happens.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.16 18:45:00 - [116] Originally by: William Romeo I eagerly await, along with everyone else, the lack of reports to come after you you go and nothing happens. If I go and nothing happens, it will be made known as everything else. I control what is at my hands and this is the actio of going. And it will be done. Unlike the genral populace who sits at this Universe "eagerly awaiting" the deeds of others. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.16 18:58:00 - [117] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 16/06/2007 18:57:58 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Aria Jenneth Or does the rest of humanity not matter? Yes they do not matter. As words about the affairs of true Amarrians do not matter coming from a low born Caldari as yourself. Very well, though I'm only half-Caldari by birth (since we're mincing bloodlines, here). My mother was Achur, as was my upbringing. Since this makes me genetically inferior and unworthy of notice, would any of the True Amarr care to serve as translator (or, perhaps, word elevator) to provide my comments that extra patina of augustness necessary for them to matter?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.16 19:04:00 - [118] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Very well, though I'm only half-Caldari by birth (since we're mincing bloodlines, here). My mother was Achur, as was my upbringing. Since this makes me genetically inferior and unworthy of notice, would any of the True Amarr care to serve as translator (or, perhaps, word elevator) to provide my comments that extra patina of augustness necessary for them to matter? Mixed Blood, is even worse. No extra patina of augustness will solve this. What comes from an inferior , can not be elevated by any means. ((ooc: "Extra patina of augustness )) "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.16 19:11:00 - [119] Originally by: Revan Neferis Mixed Blood, is even worse. No extra patina of augustness will solve this. What comes from an inferior , can not be elevated by any means. ((ooc: "Extra patina of augustness )) Including accuracy, one gathers. ((ooc: Thx! ))
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.16 20:34:00 - [120] Edited by: Karanth on 16/06/2007 20:33:50 If I recall correctly from my studies, after the fiasco at Vak'Atioth, "captains that had given their lives for their Empire without a single thought of retreat were posthumously discharged from the Navy, their reputations ruined and their families disgraced." My only sadness here is the fact that Revan can't really be a bigger disgrace than she already is, her reputation is worth less than the space she uses to brainwash GalNet into thinking otherwise, and that the Amarr have already cast her out as a heretic. After all, when nothing else is left, what better time for a suicide strike... er, frontal assault! EDIT: For clarity. Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.16 21:28:00 - [121] Casserina: "Are you telling me that we as a people are incapable of such challenge?" No, I'm saying you and whoever is swayed by Revan's words will fail. When the full weight of the Empire, and those loyal to it, is finally brought to bear than it will be achieved. "A lone voice Tenebrion." I'm not sure I understand your tone. Isn't it your religion that is all about individuality? And your soverign just got done making a speech about how self-empowerment and individuality are a good thing. "Yes the removal of the Minmatar terrorists from Providence. The inital cause of the Rebellion is directly tied to Vak'Atioth. I think if the battle fleet never left, the Minmatar would've better of their rebellion." I wasn't just talking about the freedom fighters, though they are considered a thorn in some peoples sides. Should you ask any minmatar what the cause of the rebellion was, they will tell you flat out, the practice of slavery and the enslavement of their people. Nor is it the catalyst, that being the incident in Diemnon. Also, if you believe the rebellion wouldn't have occured if the fleet hadn't been occupied, then you're sorely underestimating the minmatar. At best the fleet would have made sure the rebellion didn't succeed. "There was nothing innocent about them. Of course those actions were performed by the Sani Sabik Alliance which is comprised of all races." So pilots of corporations unafiliated with the CVA (I'm assuming that's the enemy you speak of) are not considered innocent? Or has it come to the point that their are no innocents in your eyes? True, the actions were carried out by all The Sani Sabik, however, it was at the command of Revan. "I take it I won't be seeing you in this glorious battle when the time comes?" No, and for two reasons (one stated in this discussion, the other in a previous). First, I don't believe this is something the capsuleer community needs to "burden" themselves with. Wasn't the point of becoming a pod pilot to leave our pasts behind, to reach out into the stars looking for new opportunities? Or is that just by view? And second, I have stated before that I wont fly with Revan again because I don't agree with her character or methods.
William Romeo Caldari Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.06.16 22:14:00 - [122] that's right, i forgot! if you go and nothing happens, you will claim victory on the grounds that the Jovians were too afraid to fight you. How could i be so naive? and no caldari is in any way inferior to the blind ravings of a lunatic, no matter their race.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.17 03:56:00 - [123] Edited by: Nachshon on 17/06/2007 03:58:40 100000 ISK on the Jovians. It probably isn't worth their time to take care of minor things such as you - though I wonder what else the Jove Navy spends its time doing. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 04:59:00 - [124] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness No, I'm saying you and whoever is swayed by Revan's words will fail. When the full weight of the Empire, and those loyal to it, is finally brought to bear than it will be achieved. I have never spoke of the Empire. It was the Empire that failed at Vak'Atioth, the Emperor's chosen. If you have noticed the Sovereign's earlier postings she was not talking to the citizens of the Empire, which is also comprised of additional races. But the True Amarr, the only in which there is a destiny. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Yes the removal of the Minmatar terrorists from Providence. The inital cause of the Rebellion is directly tied to Vak'Atioth. I think if the battle fleet never left, the Minmatar would've better of their rebellion. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness I wasn't just talking about the freedom fighters, though they are considered a thorn in some peoples sides. Should you ask any minmatar what the cause of the rebellion was, they will tell you flat out, the practice of slavery and the enslavement of their people. Nor is it the catalyst, that being the incident in Diemnon. As you know the Amarr blamed their future losses on a lack of morale due their loss at Vak'Atioth. 200 of finest Imperial Ships along with their best crews are sent to oblivion. Let the Minmatar believe their own version of the events of the Rebellion. But all Amarr know that the War with the Jove resulted in a major loss for the Imperial Navy and the subsequent executions that followed also contributed how the Rebellion has been handled. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness So pilots of corporations unafiliated with the CVA (I'm assuming that's the enemy you speak of) are not considered innocent? Or has it come to the point that their are no innocents in your eyes? You may assume all you want. However, details of our military operations will not released to the general public. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness No, and for two reasons (one stated in this discussion, the other in a previous). First, I don't believe this is something the capsuleer community needs to "burden" themselves with. Wasn't the point of becoming a pod pilot to leave our pasts behind, to reach out into the stars looking for new opportunities? Or is that just by view? This isn't about the capsuleer community. This is about the Amarr getting revenge against the Jove. Again I should point out that the Sovereign did not request the aid of the Gallente Federation, Caldari State or the Minmatar Republic. Also notice that the Khanid Kingdom and Ammatar Mandate have not bee asked to commit themselves. This is between the Amarr and the Jove. Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness And second, I have stated before that I wont fly with Revan again because I don't agree with her character or methods. Or perhaps she is the only with plan of revenge, that no leader of the Empire has even considered. Or is it because she is the Sovereign of the Sani Sabik? So would battle the Jove in Vak'Atioth if the leader was from CVA or other paramilitary group loyal to Empire? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 06:19:00 - [125] And here we have, the inferiors, trying to measure the shadows without knowing tht the length depends so much on the height of the sun, and other adventitious circumstances. Amusing, the ones who speaks of reputation, where themselves are hidden in self-insignificance and the same "cluster" they proclaim would never be able to differenciate their names among one another. A massive collection of flesh and voices, pigs staked out resonating noises of despair in seek of "reputation" Whence arises the easy fallacious behaviour of a loyalist? From his situation, undoubtedly: for standing in desperate need of his "reputation" he is obliged to learn the art of inaction and inaptitude without giving offence, and, of evasively feeding hope with the chameleon's food: thus does politeness sport with truth, and eating away the power native to man, produce the fine "Amarr". What to say of he other voices, the common mass, pigs among pigs who couldn't even differenciate themselves? For their patterned writings it's certain that they likewise acquire, from a supposed necessity, an equally artificial mode of behaviour. Yet truth is not with impunity to be sported with, for the practised dissembler, at last become the dupe of their own arts, loses that sagacity, which has been justly termed common sense; namely a quick perception of common truths: which are constantly.received as such by the unsophisticated mind, though it might not have had sufficient energy to discover themselves, when obscured by local prejudices. The greater number of people take their opinions on trust to avoid the trouble of exercising their own minds, and these indolent beings naturally adhere to the letter, rather than the spirit of a law, divine or human. "Sovereign," says one of the rumminant voices, I cannot recollect who, " mind not what only Heaven sees." Why, indeed, should they? it is the eye of a woman that they have been taught to dread--and if they can lull their Argus to sleep, they seldom think of Heaven or themselves, because their reputation is safe; and it is reputation, not action and attitude and all its fair train, that they are employed to keep free from spot, not as a virtue, but to preserve their station in the world of their own. Sad existance, is the life of these commoners. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.17 07:49:00 - [126] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 17/06/2007 07:50:23 Uh-huh. Can someone please tell me my own screeds don't read like this wall of obfuscatory text? The day I use language to conceal, rather than communicate, meaning, please shoot me. Preferably in a non-fatal spot. Or ... well, a shock stick would probably suffice. Lady Neferis, I -know- you're addicted to self-mystification (and I suppose that might be necessary, or, at least, useful in maintaining your hold over your Sani Sabik circle), but if you're actually going to say something relatively simple, such as that the loyalists (Amarrian pod pilots or otherwise; it wasn't very clear which group or groups you were discussing) are a herd of cattle afraid for the sake of their reputations to engage in serious, let alone original, thought, might you consider skipping the multiple paragraphs of mystification? Unless you plan on conquering the universe with revenues generated by medicating readers' headaches? ... or are you trying to generate religious scripture?
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.17 08:17:00 - [127] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 17/06/2007 08:16:13 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac I have never spoke of the Empire. It was the Empire that failed at Vak'Atioth, the Emperor's chosen. If you have noticed the Sovereign's earlier postings she was not talking to the citizens of the Empire, which is also comprised of additional races. But the True Amarr, the only in which there is a destiny. Only the full support of one if not more empire entities will be needed to pull off what you wish, no capsuleer corporation or alliance (with the exception of maybe BoB)has the manpower or assets to go toe to toe with the Jove. And on the contrary, by calling out to all True Amarrians she is in fact talking to many Empire citizens. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac As you know the Amarr blamed their future losses on a lack of morale due their loss at Vak'Atioth. 200 of finest Imperial Ships along with their best crews are sent to oblivion. Let the Minmatar believe their own version of the events of the Rebellion. But all Amarr know that the War with the Jove resulted in a major loss for the Imperial Navy and the subsequent executions that followed also contributed how the Rebellion has been handled. True, however the rebellion began before the battle at Vak'Atioh, so to say that the cause was directly tied to the battle is umm...wrong. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac This isn't about the capsuleer community. This is about the Amarr getting revenge against the Jove. Again I should point out that the Sovereign did not request the aid of the Gallente Federation, Caldari State or the Minmatar Republic. Also notice that the Khanid Kingdom and Ammatar Mandate have not bee asked to commit themselves. This is between the Amarr and the Jove. Maybe I should've been more clear, by stating capsuleer community I meant True Amarrians that are pod pilots, since that is who Revan is talking to. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Or perhaps she is the only with plan of revenge, that no leader of the Empire has even considered. Or is it because she is the Sovereign of the Sani Sabik? Oh, I'm sure may leaders had considered striking again at the Jovians, however they all came to the same logic, there are more pressing matters at home we need to deal with. I have no problems with the philosophy of the Sani Sabik, only the measures Revan takes to increase her "power" and the way she carries herself. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac So would battle the Jove in Vak'Atioth if the leader was from CVA or other paramilitary group loyal to Empire? Considering my previous statement, no, because they would have about as much chance as you do at success. However, should a future Emperor call for a reclaiming of Atioth, I would most likely sign up, but than it wouldn't be under the command of a capsuleer corp.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.06.17 09:12:00 - [128] Edited by: Arron S on 17/06/2007 09:10:53 Pop Corn - Check Covert ops ship with cloak - Check Large sum of money bet on the Jovians - Check. I dips on the loot from your ships. My geddon needs new lasers
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.17 09:13:00 - [129] Originally by: Aria Jenneth [...] Ah. But you forget one of the primary rules. Aim at your target audience. If your intended audience isn't the "community" the language should be designed to exclude unwanted elements. Through this charade of mystified language Revan garners comments from a number of individuals (of greater or lesser importance. I myself belonging to the latter group), which lends her an air of importance. Even if they say that she's a complete whacko, she still got some attention. Thus her target audience are those incapable of penetrating her "veil of mystique", attracted to her promises that they by joining the Sani Sabik become "special", deeply distrustful of "the intelligensia" but still impressed by their attention. In short, Revans target audience is gullible and prone to cult-like behavior. Easily controllable, fanatical, generally anti-authoritarian and a morality that is easily brushed aside "for the cause". Perfect Bloodraider/Sani Sabik recruitment material. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:17:00 - [130] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Through this charade of mystified language Revan does a number of things. She garners comments from a number of individuals (of greater or lesser importance. I myself belonging to the latter group)... Who needs to say more? A better future, indeed! "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:29:00 - [131] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness ... should a future Emperor call for a reclaiming of Atioth, I would most likely sign up, but than it wouldn't be under the command of a capsuleer corp. This is interesting. A perfect example of how Amarrian society suffers greatly from the beliefs that only official action is legitimate and that the state is the source of our powers. Both religious and political prescriptions for "responsibility" suffer from the "not in my job description" school of thought regarding the actions that could be taken of the pod pilot, and from an overestimation of the ability of the state to provide society's moral moorings. As long as pod pilots assume no personal responsibility for their lifes and major actions that can affect the whole, you will fail to do anything else then attack the ones who have courage to do so. One who values life and takes seriously responsibilities to heritage and blood will possess and cultivate the means of living by their own rules. Let's not mince words: The wait for God, Emperor, official voice is simply one more excuse for stagnation, cowardice and lack of self awareness. I need no Emperor to tell me how to conduct my life. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Boma Airaken APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.17 11:22:00 - [132] Ffs just stop replying. Do any of you actually care about what Revan has planned? Will it make a difference or matter? We all know the answer yet we keep jabbering on, supporting the psycho's endeavors. Ignore it and it goes away.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.17 13:00:00 - [133] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Through this charade of mystified language Revan does a number of things. She garners comments from a number of individuals (of greater or lesser importance. I myself belonging to the latter group)... Who needs to say more? A better future, indeed! What can I say. At the present I'm the CEO of a very small corperation, with a very small fleet of associates, though with quite decent financial backing for its size. Relegating myself to the group of "individuals of lesser importance" (I'm no political heavyweighter) is merely having a firm grip on reality when the discussion has been graced by individuals such as Tharn, Rodj Blake and Verone. Good thing then that this has no impact on the merit of the arguments that I've made, as their merit relies on truth alone. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 13:25:00 - [134] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Considering my previous statement, no, because they would have about as much chance as you do at success. However, should a future Emperor call for a reclaiming of Atioth, I would most likely sign up, but than it wouldn't be under the command of a capsuleer corp. Ah spoken like true sheep of the empire. You wait for an Emperor that will never be. What has it been almost two years since the last one? I like my Sovereign steer my own my course. I will be at Vak'Atioth. I will fight the Jove. They either die by my hands or I will die by theirs. The Empire deserves to be ruled by the sheep, who hide behind the false trappings of religious and bureaucratic faith. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.06.17 13:42:00 - [135] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 17/06/2007 13:40:55 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Ah spoken like true sheep of the empire. You wait for an Emperor that will never be. What has it been almost two years since the last one? I like my Sovereign steer my own my course. I will be at Vak'Atioth. I will fight the Jove. They either die by my hands or I will die by theirs. The irony of that statement is staggering. A sani sabik sheep accusing a former employee of Ebon Seraph (House Verisum affiliates) of being a sheep for not kow-towing to Revan Neferis. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.17 15:02:00 - [136] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Considering my previous statement, no, because they would have about as much chance as you do at success. However, should a future Emperor call for a reclaiming of Atioth, I would most likely sign up, but than it wouldn't be under the command of a capsuleer corp. Ah spoken like true sheep of the empire. You wait for an Emperor that will never be. What has it been almost two years since the last one? I like my Sovereign steer my own my course. I will be at Vak'Atioth. I will fight the Jove. They either die by my hands or I will die by theirs. The Empire deserves to be ruled by the sheep, who hide behind the false trappings of religious and bureaucratic faith. You try to insult us by calling us sheep, while we do steer our own course in a similar manner to yourself we do so for the Greater Good of God and the betterment of the Empire itself. What plans do you have to make the Jove show their hand? What kind of forces do you expect? I know how proud the Sani Sabik is of fitting T2 ships but should the Jove appear this won't be a piratical 'interdiction'. They'll have technologies you've never even heard of (tech 3/4?) and certainly clear your stain out of that system. I know that I and probably no right minded servant of God would think of sullying themselves by associating with heretics like yourselves on such a tentative thread of a cause.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.17 15:31:00 - [137] Originally by: Raane Thyandar You try to insult us by calling us sheep, while we do steer our own course in a similar manner to yourself we do so for the Greater Good of God and the betterment of the Empire itself. What plans do you have to make the Jove show their hand? What kind of forces do you expect? I know how proud the Sani Sabik is of fitting T2 ships but should the Jove appear this won't be a piratical 'interdiction'. They'll have technologies you've never even heard of (tech 3/4?) and certainly clear your stain out of that system. I know that I and probably no right minded servant of God would think of sullying themselves by associating with heretics like yourselves on such a tentative thread of a cause. Thank you Lieutenant you prove my point. You are a sheep consumed by the fear and shame of your ancestors. So much so so you fear the Jove more than you fear your own "god". You actually think that the Jove is superior to the Amarr. That is exactly what the Sovereign is trying to disprove. Evidently you are content hiding in your docks and hope that the Jove will go away. They will not. Just because they haven't invaded the Empire doesn't mean that they will not in the future. It is a shame that most "sheep" as yourself are blind to what the Sovereign is proposing. Instead of seeing the wisdom of her suggestions, you see only her as heretic speaking blasphemy. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.17 17:04:00 - [138] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Ah. But you forget one of the primary rules. Aim at your target audience. ... True enough. I did cover this point, sort of, but only by implication, and you're most likely completely right about to whom she's actually writing. This is hardly the first time she's gone out of her way to mystify her position in this discussion, either. That particular focus would all but nullify the impact of any grammatical or word-usage gaffes, allowing her to plough right through without checking to make sure everything meant what she thought it did. Nicely analyzed, Mr. Delateriel. Mr. Airaken: refusing to discuss Lady Neferis' antics has historically had little or no effect on their general nature, and may have even increased their frequency. If Revan isn't taking a political stand on this or that, she'll take a social one, which usually fits under the heading of demonstrating her power, ruthlessness, decadence, or all three. Of -course- she thrives on attention, and truly ignoring her would starve her of it, but she'll never be truly ignored, and if she gets mostly ignored she'll up the ante to provoke a stronger response. Considering what that usually means, we're most likely saving lives by giving her what she craves while attempting to reduce her net gains from her efforts. For instance, it would be a pity if anyone who's not already one of her followers came away from this discussion with the idea that Lady Neferis and Bloodveil really had displayed the courage to stand up to the Jovians. We can give her attention while weakening her effect. The idea isn't to argue her into submission; that's never going to happen. It's to try and nullify any potential political advantage she might otherwise gain, and, perhaps, have a little fun in the process. -She- undoubtedly has fun with this. There's no reason she should be the only one.
Eric Lupanasia	Posted - 2007.06.17 18:49:00 - [139] From the desk of Eric Lupanasia: Now, forgive me if I'm mistaken; history wasn't my strong suit during my time in the Center. But I believe the primary reason the Amarr were so thoroughly trounced in their engagement in the Atioth system is because the Jove knew more or less everything about the operation before it even began. Now you're publicly announcing an operation to retake the system over GalNet? Unless the Jove have completely removed the human brain from their genetic blueprint, I can't see an outcome that strays beyond two possibilities: 1) The Jove don't care and don't show up, or; 2) The Jove show up with a force of ships perfectly suited to dominate whatever attack force is assembled to take the system. This is just the armchair tactician in me talking, but I'd rate the chances of combat success for this mission somewhere in the realm of "infinitesimal". Why waste lives for it? ------------------- "There can be good done while profiting."
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.17 20:09:00 - [140] So, I am a sheep because I would put more weight on a request from an Emperor than Revan? Fine, "Baa Baa", happy? At least by following a request of a sanctioned leader of the Empire I will have less of a chance of following a wolf in disguise. And being a sheep that would be a good thing. And no the Jove are not superior to the Amarr Empire, though they are superior to some individual Amarrians like your sovereign. Side question, when was the last sighting of the Jove? Because it seems to me like they have just gone away to deal with their own problems. Also, one stain of shame True Amarrians should be looking into rectifying is the warped ideology Revan has built around the Sani Sabik philosophy.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.17 21:31:00 - [141] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Also, one stain of shame True Amarrians should be looking into rectifying is the warped ideology Revan has built around the Sani Sabik philosophy. Why? It makes us laugh. ----------------------------------------------
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.17 22:54:00 - [142] Originally by: Boma Airaken Ffs just stop replying. Do any of you actually care about what Revan has planned? Will it make a difference or matter? We all know the answer yet we keep jabbering on, supporting the psycho's endeavors. Ignore it and it goes away. Well, that's one option. In the past, however, it hasn't worked, and the insanity that spews forth from her is even more foul than before. Perhaps, this time, if we deluge her, her ego will collapse under its' own weight, and a torrent of words will be what slays this scourge against all rational thought. Either way, it's like a bear in the woods. No matter what you know is right, you can't resist poking the creature. Revan is no different. Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.18 01:54:00 - [143] The Sani Sabik have become a rather poor mirror image of the Star Fraction with its useless endeavours, propaganda style, deflection of any obvious questions that can easily decimate their credibility, et cetera ad infinitum. Good job on your teacher and lover, Neferis, but she has picked the worst student out of the lot. You could try to stop mangling the languages, for one, if you desire others to take you seriously. P.S. Using traditional Gallente so carelessly without knowing its true meaning only makes you look worse instead of sounding sophisticated. ---------------
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:55:00 - [144] Pride I see as a good thing. People should take pride in their work. That way, they will do a better job. People should take pride in their behaviour. That way, they will endeavour to behave better than they otherwise might, and the world will be a better place as a result. Just because an ideal may be unattainable, does not mean that it does no good to strive towards it. But what do we see from the same insignificant haters, year after year, post after post? is it a defence of their pride or the simple lack of ability to expres anything other then an out-moded, or even savage, philosophy called " Insult". I know, many things about a man are unchangeable. One such is his race, the other is ignorance and self-imposed ill behaviour. The behaviour of insulting others causes their minds to a loop, when all we can read is a fiercely and irrationally scream exposing their own shortcomings. I consider the freedom to insult a very important one. How one reacts to insults tells others a lot about oneself. People may start to think little of a man who gives out too many insults, besides a bad insult wounds a person, perhaps damns something about himself which he cannot change, and brings shame on the insulter. What better way, to send a message without writing yourself. By all means, it's a pleasure. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
CyberSlutWhore Gallente En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:12:00 - [145] Originally by: Revan Neferis I have no intentio of forcng an engagement, I'll call to battle and if they don't respond is because they might as well be dead inside their rotten diseased enclousure, or silentely ackowledging their defeat. Either way, my task and obligation towards my Blood and ancestry will be done. Or like they are so totally ignoring you as the small child like whelp, they view every one who is like not Jovian as below them and like letÆs face it dude I don't think they care what you think!
YourMyBitchNow Caldari En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:17:00 - [146] Sound Like Your On Your Own In This Fight Revan Laughs Mockingly At Revan
CyberSlutWhore Gallente En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:22:00 - [147] Do you like think Revan will like wage war on a pod corp who or is she like just goanna target those that like totally ignore her ass?
YourMyBitchNow Caldari En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:28:00 - [148] Probably Ignore Her She Does Have A Lot Of Hot Air In Her!
CyberSlutWhore Gallente En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:33:00 - [149] Dude she is so goanna be like totally served if they did take her up on it
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.18 21:41:00 - [150] Ok, I have roughly no respect for Revan, but at least she doesn't tag-team threads with clone-jacks, and other trolling tomfoolery. As it is, there is only enough room for one crazed being here, and Revan has dibs. Begone, trolls! Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips
Shaolin Vampire Minmatar En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 22:36:00 - [151] Originally by: Karanth Ok, I have roughly no respect for Revan, but at least she doesn't tag-team threads with clone-jacks, and other trolling tomfoolery. As it is, there is only enough room for one crazed being here, and Revan has dibs. Begone, trolls! Are you ssstalking thessse two people or sssome thing?
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.18 22:47:00 - [152] I don't think so, it's just kinda hard to miss you. Also, your corp might want to contact a speech therapist and setup some appointments.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.19 06:07:00 - [153] CRC will certainly take are of these multiple clone jacks. Bu they serve to prove my point. Name of the individuals and nature of their posts. Back to the subject, to answer a question previously posted; yes most likely the channel where the operations are discussed will be or already is infiltrated by the jovians. Matters little, we will proceed and do what we are supposed to do. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.19 08:50:00 - [154] Hi Revan, Just wanted to ask a question, well more a favour actually? You don't think you could take Sagey boy and his En-slaver circus freaks with you? I know you don't see eye to eye, but I think most here would consider it a public service! Plus, I honestly think they need to get out of the house for a bit! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.19 09:18:00 - [155] Originally by: Hooch Flux Hi Revan, Just wanted to ask a question, well more a favour actually? You don't think you could take Sagey boy and his En-slaver circus freaks with you? I know you don't see eye to eye, but I think most here would consider it a public service! Plus, I honestly think they need to get out of the house for a bit! Public services are not within the activities I would take. I'm sure time will take care of the individuals, or this Blood God of theirs. Val'Atioth is not an operation to be taken lightly. I'm sure, most of the insulters here wouldn't have even the means to field a capital ship to combat, imagine to face consequences of loss or combat in name of Blood. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.19 13:36:00 - [156] Capital ships require a competent support fleet in order for them to function. As much as it is nice to have capital support, they aren't the end-all to every fight. Case in point: Xelas Alliance lost two carriers to a gang comprised of Heavy Assault Cruisers and Recons. Don't put too much of your faith in that Revelation of yours. ---------------
Rudy Metallo Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.19 15:33:00 - [157] Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 19/06/2007 15:31:55 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Hooch Flux Hi Revan, Just wanted to ask a question, well more a favour actually? You don't think you could take Sagey boy and his En-slaver circus freaks with you? I know you don't see eye to eye, but I think most here would consider it a public service! Plus, I honestly think they need to get out of the house for a bit! Public services are not within the activities I would take. I'm sure time will take care of the individuals, or this Blood God of theirs. Val'Atioth is not an operation to be taken lightly. I'm sure, most of the insulters here wouldn't have even the means to field a capital ship to combat, imagine to face consequences of loss or combat in name of Blood. Capital ships? You think that will scare the Jovians into submission? It will take far more than that, my dear, delusioned, Sabikian, to sway the Jovian's shields, let alone their plated hulls, and to say nothing of their resolve. It is good that you are willing to fight and die for a cause, what a shame that you indeed will, though. Say what?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.19 17:38:00 - [158] Originally by: Rudy Metallo Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 19/06/2007 15:31:55 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Hooch Flux Hi Revan, Just wanted to ask a question, well more a favour actually? You don't think you could take Sagey boy and his En-slaver circus freaks with you? I know you don't see eye to eye, but I think most here would consider it a public service! Plus, I honestly think they need to get out of the house for a bit! Public services are not within the activities I would take. I'm sure time will take care of the individuals, or this Blood God of theirs. Val'Atioth is not an operation to be taken lightly. I'm sure, most of the insulters here wouldn't have even the means to field a capital ship to combat, imagine to face consequences of loss or combat in name of Blood. Capital ships? You think that will scare the Jovians into submission? It will take far more than that, my dear, delusioned, Sabikian, to sway the Jovian's shields, let alone their plated hulls, and to say nothing of their resolve. It is good that you are willing to fight and die for a cause, what a shame that you indeed will, though. I'll take the best we have. I have no fear of death or to lose ships if necessary. a few capital ships for me is nothing. This isue will be solved and the outcome only destiny will tell. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Keerie Jeanmot Gallente Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:22:00 - [159] True Amarr or not, it is my obligation to follow you Lady Revan.
Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:15:00 - [160] So you want to go play with the Jove in Geminate, to avenge the tactical blunder of an over zealous commander who acted before he thought? I am sorry Revan but I took you for being a little more swift then this. Propaganda,rhetoric and sheer bravado aside whats your real motivation behind jumping feet first into Geminate? May I add that the locals there are hyper violent with a penchant for shooting first and asking questions later and will defend that cesspool of a reigon to the bitter end. You might go there for the Jove but you will end up fighting something completely else.
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:39:00 - [161] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Propaganda,rhetoric and sheer bravado aside whats your real motivation behind jumping feet first into Geminate? May I add that the locals there are hyper violent with a penchant for shooting first and asking questions later and will defend that cesspool of a reigon to the bitter end. You might go there for the Jove but you will end up fighting something completely else. The sight of a single capital ship will cause the locals (Smashkill) to run away, their capital fleet is laughable. Just beware of nano-ships and other "cheap" tactics.
Talaris EveningStar Caldari APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:50:00 - [162] Well said Mr Alucard. Ms Neferis. I do commend you on one front however. The laughter from people reguarding this crusade will echo through the universe for generations to come, entertaining many many young children in their beds before they sleep. You wish to take revenge on a race that the entire Amarr Empire got their collective rears kicked by? If the Jovians wished it, they could wipe you out along with your puny little Dreadnought within the blink of an eye. But they won't. Go ahead, ask me why. Oh hell, I'll just tell you. Because you are absolutely nothing to them. A cloud of space dust breaking upon their shields. How presumptous and foolish of you to think that you could even frighten let alone hurt the most technologically advanced race in all of the cluster. Ahh, but then again, I suppose you think you could take on the Caldari State all by yourself as well hmm? Well no matter. At least we'll all have an entertaining show to watch won't we! laughs "Democracy is for the gullible, Tyrrany is for the weak. We, the State, are the answer to both."
Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:20:00 - [163] Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 20/06/2007 22:19:19 I never spoke of Smash, but more of your alliance,tho I am not well versed as to who is there at this very moment I can say tho that if your alliance is there that there will be a very persistent defense of the territory, in the nigh year I spent in Geminate you guys repeatedly came back for more despite the results and brought it, this is also to be said of Astral Wolves and others who frequent the area not to mention the fact that no matter where they roam Cruel Intentions always seems to come back to Geminate at some point and they can become a very annoying thorn in your side. What vexs me about this whole endeavor is why would Revan who we all know is a pirate like myself would knowingly choose to move into a historically pirate infested den at that lies at the boarders of the most secretive and technologically advanced race in the known universe with the intent of waging war on them with no up to date intel on the cabailities of her enemy,what ships they will feild,where their production facilities are,who their commanders are,any clue on the psycology or tactics of their race and not to mention whether or not if the Jove play by the same rule book we humble pod pilots have to. For all we know they can use the old Friend or For guidance systems that instalocked ships and allowed battleships to hit frigates with full force and never miss. Too me from a purely tactical perspective this appears to be one of the largest military blunders in naval history and will probably surpass the first battle of Vak' Atioth as a failure simply this time around everything points to an utter catastrophe as it sits, least the Amarrian commander the last time around could say "We didn't know" this time around we do know and repeating this same blunder is to put it bluntly suicidal.
Boma Airaken APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:41:00 - [164] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 20/06/2007 22:19:19 I never spoke of Smash, but more of your alliance,tho I am not well versed as to who is there at this very moment I can say tho that if your alliance is there that there will be a very persistent defense of the territory, in the nigh year I spent in Geminate you guys repeatedly came back for more despite the results and brought it, this is also to be said of Astral Wolves and others who frequent the area not to mention the fact that no matter where they roam Cruel Intentions always seems to come back to Geminate at some point and they can become a very annoying thorn in your side. What vexs me about this whole endeavor is why would Revan who we all know is a pirate like myself would knowingly choose to move into a historically pirate infested den at that lies at the boarders of the most secretive and technologically advanced race in the known universe with the intent of waging war on them with no up to date intel on the cabailities of her enemy,what ships they will feild,where their production facilities are,who their commanders are,any clue on the psycology or tactics of their race and not to mention whether or not if the Jove play by the same rule book we humble pod pilots have to. For all we know they can use the old Friend or For guidance systems that instalocked ships and allowed battleships to hit frigates with full force and never miss. Too me from a purely tactical perspective this appears to be one of the largest military blunders in naval history and will probably surpass the first battle of Vak' Atioth as a failure simply this time around everything points to an utter catastrophe as it sits, least the Amarrian commander the last time around could say "We didn't know" this time around we do know and repeating this same blunder is to put it bluntly suicidal. You have summed it up in fine form Mr. Alucard. Well done. Nobody with any amount of sense whatsoever would attempt anything like this blind as a bat.
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.21 02:12:00 - [165] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 20/06/2007 22:19:19 I never spoke of Smash, but more of your alliance,tho I am not well versed as to who is there at this very moment I can say tho that if your alliance is there that there will be a very persistent defense of the territory, in the nigh year I spent in Geminate you guys repeatedly came back for more despite the results and brought it, this is also to be said of Astral Wolves and others who frequent the area not to mention the fact that no matter where they roam Cruel Intentions always seems to come back to Geminate at some point and they can become a very annoying thorn in your side. What vexs me about this whole endeavor is why would Revan who we all know is a pirate like myself would knowingly choose to move into a historically pirate infested den at that lies at the boarders of the most secretive and technologically advanced race in the known universe with the intent of waging war on them with no up to date intel on the cabailities of her enemy,what ships they will feild,where their production facilities are,who their commanders are,any clue on the psycology or tactics of their race and not to mention whether or not if the Jove play by the same rule book we humble pod pilots have to. For all we know they can use the old Friend or For guidance systems that instalocked ships and allowed battleships to hit frigates with full force and never miss. Too me from a purely tactical perspective this appears to be one of the largest military blunders in naval history and will probably surpass the first battle of Vak' Atioth as a failure simply this time around everything points to an utter catastrophe as it sits, least the Amarrian commander the last time around could say "We didn't know" this time around we do know and repeating this same blunder is to put it bluntly suicidal. My alliance has not held space in Geminate since January. We were offered a land grab and its resulting political dealings shattered my alliance and its Geminate holdings. Smashkill currently holds the two stations in IPS. The chances of bringing a large gang through Geminate though are fairly high from experience as Smashkill is currently occupied elsewhere. I would bring my own capship in (of course with appropriate standings) if I had the opportunity to pod some locals I personally do not like. En taro Adun!
Keerie Jeanmot Gallente Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:44:00 - [166] Originally by: Lucian Alucard whats your real motivation behind jumping feet first into Geminate? There is a secret behind this operation that not even Bloodveil members are aware. And this is bothering us. It involves money and a lot of money I know this much.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.21 07:59:00 - [167] The ritual will be completed. La Reine de veu is not the only capital ship commited to this operation. All other sorts of speculations are non important. And yes, I'm sure there will be interfereces of alliances. positive and negative. this never stoped me to proceed my business, as I see fit. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Talaris EveningStar Caldari APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.21 21:48:00 - [168] You named your ship using the Gallente language? bursts out laughing "Democracy is for the gullible, Tyrrany is for the weak. We, the State, are the answer to both."
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.22 10:31:00 - [169] La Reine de veu? I got "The Queen of ?" Can anyone enlighten us? I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.22 10:54:00 - [170] Originally by: Talaris EveningStar You named your ship using the Gallente language? No, The ship was a gift from my beloved. The name has significance that belongs to us. Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Lady Revan gifted Jade a Rattlesnake Class Gurista Battleship ôravenousö for use in her coming wars while Jade in turn laid the keel of a Revelation class Dreadnaught ôla reine le veutö for the Lady of Blood Veil to use as forward base on her own campaigns. It is fitting for the Fraction Executor and Mistress of the Blood Veil to pledge faith with starships after all, such vessels represemt freedom and possibility and the bright ambitions of our future. Anymore "significant questions" gentlemen? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.22 11:12:00 - [171] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/06/2007 11:11:03 Originally by: Revan Neferis Anymore "significant questions" gentlemen? Yes, I have one. When are you going to stop merely talking about going to Atioth with your lackeys and actually go and do it? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.22 11:26:00 - [172] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/06/2007 11:11:03 Originally by: Revan Neferis Anymore "significant questions" gentlemen? Yes, I have one. When are you going to stop merely talking about going to Atioth with your lackeys and actually go and do it? This information is known by the military and religious group of pod pilots who are involved at the operations. As PIE, and completely outside any relevance to this, obviously I have to repeat my question: Originally by: Revan Neferis Anymore "significant questions" gentlemen? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.22 20:46:00 - [173] Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 22/06/2007 20:46:00 Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, I have one. When are you going to stop merely talking about going to Atioth with your lackeys and actually go and do it? Are you planning to join us in victory against the Jove Rodj? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:33:00 - [174] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 22/06/2007 20:46:00 Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, I have one. When are you going to stop merely talking about going to Atioth with your lackeys and actually go and do it? Are you planning to join us in victory against the Jove Rodj? I refer you to my earlier statement regarding PIE pilots not being placed under the command of heretics. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:34:00 - [175] I do sincerely hope you give us advance warning regarding your surely imminent "victory pronouncement" so I can contact my laundry slave and have some spare robes readied. Your last grand scheme (having your "military wing" declare war on your allies) was so entertaining I choked on some wine while reading the news release and spilled all over one of my best robes. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.22 23:35:00 - [176] Originally by: Archbishop I do sincerely hope you give us advance warning regarding your surely imminent "victory pronouncement" so I can contact my laundry slave and have some spare robes readied. Your last grand scheme (having your "military wing" declare war on your allies) was so entertaining I choked on some wine while reading the news release and spilled all over one of my best robes. Archbishop What Archbishop not joining us in Vak'Atioth either? Going to sit in your space dock as you did for the defense of Amarr? Good for you it's nice to know you all stick to to your principles. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.23 00:49:00 - [177] Nope I wouldn't be caught anywhere near that flipflopping heretical leader of yours. I'll just stay here fighting Minmatar and enjoying the sideshow known as Sani Sabik. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.23 14:04:00 - [178] Originally by: Archbishop Nope I wouldn't be caught anywhere near that flipflopping heretical leader of yours. I'll just stay here fighting Minmatar and enjoying the sideshow known as Sani Sabik. Archbishop As I said, now confirmed by the mouth of the insignificant heretic himself: Loyalist true Amarrs are only "able" to spend their lifes hunting Apes. And as the minmatar are still "free" not even this, they do correctly. No wonder their " God" deprives them of an Emperor. Who would wish to rule Amarr in this decandency of blood and faith. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.23 15:01:00 - [179] Quote: As I said, now confirmed by the mouth of the insignificant heretic himself: Loyalist true Amarrs are only "able" to spend their lifes hunting Apes. And as the minmatar are still "free" not even this, they do correctly. The nice thing about not having an ego to stroke is not being obsessed with being "relevant" or "significant". As I said just let us know when you plan to declare victory over the Jovians so I can set my drink down first and ready some spare robes. I couldn't help but notice though you seem to be intent on spreading an imperialistic system of governance and influence on another region of space. I also couldn't help but notice who is supplying you with capital ships to aid in your cause of spreading influence and "revenge". Very interesting.... Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.23 15:45:00 - [180] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 23/06/2007 16:09:01 Originally by: Archbishop The nice thing about not having an ego to stroke is not being obsessed with being "relevant" or "significant". As I said just let us know when you plan to declare victory over the Jovians so I can set my drink down first and ready some spare robes. What you lack is not an ego strike, heretic, what you lack is any sort of qualities that would make an Amarr a True Amarr. You disguise your shame under this hood, spend your days inside an empty dusty Temple bending your will to a dead Emperor and exchanging days of your life to receive small tokens of "appreciation" from Amarrian agents. At your spare time you venture to providence, (a region that CVA claims to be " reclaiming" but so far it lays under " CVA Sovereignity") to hunt apes. No, old fallen priest, it's not ego you lack. There shall be a "personality" before any form of ego can be seen. And you are a mere shadow of past and dusty books. You and your ancertors shall be cursed forever by the cowardice you bring this generation to embrace. Originally by: Archbishop I couldn't help but notice though you seem to be intent on spreading an imperialistic system of governance and influence on another region of space. I also couldn't help but notice who is supplying you with capital ships to aid in your cause of spreading influence and "revenge". Very interesting.... Archbishop Your knowledge of politics equals your blindness of life itself. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.23 18:58:00 - [181] You could indeed spin it the other way and say that we are serving the Empire's current needs, defending it from it's enemies and you got bored with pirating haulers in low security space and decided to go on a fruitless ghosthunt all in aid of 'True Amarr'. True Amarr have piety, duty and respect for the God and Empire. You're skin says Amarrian, your deeds say heretic, your mouth says often too much, while your sanity evidently never had a voice.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.23 19:42:00 - [182] Originally by: Raane Thyandar You could indeed spin it the other way and say that we are serving the Empire's current needs. And the Empire current needs are to hunt Apes i Providence, a Non Amarr Territory. Riiight on big boy, you start very well" Originally by: Raane Thyandar defending it from it's enemies and you got bored with pirating haulers in low security space. Numbers and facts of the Star Fraction with total control of Amarr Prime and Sani Sabik forces operating at low domain, indeed shows your "exemplary" defence of Empire. Originally by: Raane Thyandar decided to go on a fruitless ghosthunt all in aid of 'True Amarr'. ghosthunt history that have buried in it's bossom 200 Amarrian officers and their crew. Ghosthunt that had marked your race with shame and disgrace. And now with Cowardice and lack of self ackowledgement. The simply action of you calling memories of the battle of Val'Atioth a "ghost hunt" shows clearly what is left from any amarrian blood that could possibly run within your veins: red water with sugar. Originally by: Raane Thyandar True Amarr have piety. Your piety is a disgrace. Detrimental to Amarrian faith. Transforming a race of Gods into a bunch of charity monks and ragged robes. Originally by: Raane Thyandar duty and respect for the God and Empire. Duty to Blood and genetic. Duty to race and evolution. Duty is to exterminate what weakens it. Duty to set history in it's proper course. Val'Atioth is DUTY. Your Apes at Providence is EXCUSE OF YOUR COWARDICE. You speak of respect. You know nothing of respect. You speak of God, where is this God who have no voice as you have no Emperor? Originally by: Raane Thyandar You're skin says Amarrian. Maybe your skin as well. But the difference between you and me is simple: My Blood says True Amarrian as well and lives by it's principles. Yours is dead under a "Amarrian skin" that is more a carcase that now lies headless, void of breath and purpose. Originally by: Raane Thyandar your deeds say heretic, your mouth says often too much, while your sanity evidently never had a voice. And that is what gives Amarr still faith. There is a leader who is not contaminated by your disease. I pray My deeds may always be heretics to you, infidel. My mouth will always say too much. everything that you refuse to hear. My sanity will speak in higher levels. I don't expect people that chase Apes as the pride of their existance, to understand more of what they seek: Apes. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Leon 026 Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:22:00 - [183] I don't know what you are doing in Aridia, but there certainly aren't any Jovians on this side of the galaxy. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:41:00 - [184] Originally by: Raane Thyandar You could indeed spin it the other way and say that we are serving the Empire's current needs, defending it from it's enemies and you got bored with pirating haulers in low security space and decided to go on a fruitless ghosthunt all in aid of 'True Amarr'. True Amarr have piety, duty and respect for the God and Empire. You're skin says Amarrian, your deeds say heretic, your mouth says often too much, while your sanity evidently never had a voice. And tell me how the Empire is served by its most loyal. Loyalists who skulk and hide in their docks when the Star Fraction (and others like them). The cowardice of PIE is well documented. And if this is one of the corps to show the "elite" of Amarr capsuleer society, then the Empire is truly doomed. It will be carved up into little pieces by the other empires. I have made mentioned earlier that you and your ilk are as sheep running from a predator. It seems yet again you have not disappointed me. When the Sani Sabik conquers the Jove at Val'Atioth we will see true courage. Then will begin the whispers behind closed doors. Whispers expressing doubt in PIE, CVA and the Empire itself. The whispers will then turn to open discussion, fearless of Amarrian authorities. Those discussions will be that "heretical" sect, the Sani Sabik did what no true Amarr could not do. Without an Emperor on the throne, the empire will not be unified. The Theology Council in concert with the Chamberlain will attempt to stop the seeds of revolution as True Amarr remember their birthrights and destinies in the stars. And finally the dead god will be laid to rest. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:30:00 - [185] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac And tell me how the Empire is served by its most loyal. Loyalists who skulk and hide in their docks when the Star Fraction (and others like them). The cowardice of PIE is well documented. And if this is one of the corps to show the "elite" of Amarr capsuleer society, then the Empire is truly doomed. It will be carved up into little pieces by the other empires. I have made mentioned earlier that you and your ilk are as sheep running from a predator. It seems yet again you have not disappointed me. When the Sani Sabik conquers the Jove at Val'Atioth we will see true courage. Then will begin the whispers behind closed doors. Whispers expressing doubt in PIE, CVA and the Empire itself. The whispers will then turn to open discussion, fearless of Amarrian authorities. Those discussions will be that "heretical" sect, the Sani Sabik did what no true Amarr could not do. Without an Emperor on the throne, the empire will not be unified. The Theology Council in concert with the Chamberlain will attempt to stop the seeds of revolution as True Amarr remember their birthrights and destinies in the stars. And finally the dead god will be laid to rest. I won't be holding my breath waiting for these things to happen. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:43:00 - [186] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Casserina Leshrac And tell me how the Empire is served by its most loyal. Loyalists who skulk and hide in their docks when the Star Fraction (and others like them). The cowardice of PIE is well documented. And if this is one of the corps to show the "elite" of Amarr capsuleer society, then the Empire is truly doomed. It will be carved up into little pieces by the other empires. I have made mentioned earlier that you and your ilk are as sheep running from a predator. It seems yet again you have not disappointed me. When the Sani Sabik conquers the Jove at Val'Atioth we will see true courage. Then will begin the whispers behind closed doors. Whispers expressing doubt in PIE, CVA and the Empire itself. The whispers will then turn to open discussion, fearless of Amarrian authorities. Those discussions will be that "heretical" sect, the Sani Sabik did what no true Amarr could not do. Without an Emperor on the throne, the empire will not be unified. The Theology Council in concert with the Chamberlain will attempt to stop the seeds of revolution as True Amarr remember their birthrights and destinies in the stars. And finally the dead god will be laid to rest. I won't be holding my breath waiting for these things to happen. I'm not surprised at your response. In fact it was fully expected. Pitiful Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Akusa Nihil Aulari Defense Systems	Posted - 2007.06.24 09:55:00 - [187] I think the Jovians just want to be left alone, to be honest...
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 10:00:00 - [188] Originally by: Akusa Nihil I think the Jovians just want to be left alone, to be honest... Their wish will be granted after Val'Atioth history is writen, as it should. Then, shall the impure and contaminated live the remaining of their days isolated in their own misery. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 10:16:00 - [189] I eagerly await to see the entire Jovian fleet rush to fight the mighty hordes of Revan's invincible crusade... Actually... To be frank, I dont really see why the Jovians would even bother to make the trip. When considering the fact that no sighting of them has been seen outside of their borders for quite some years, and seeing that they have no assets in the area, the single fact of meeting your egotistical demands seems a bit remote. What exactly do you have to offer them? How would they profit? You are no doubt doomed to failure like the rest of your rather embarrasing little projects. I do look forward to seeing the clash with the locals however, it should prove to be a minor diversion from daily routine.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.24 11:05:00 - [190] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The point of this discussion Tenebrion is not about the Sani Sabik conquering the Jove, rather it is the retaking of Vak'Atioth from the Jove. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac The Sani Sabik will not be going to Vak'Atioth, instead it will only be those True Amarr who will have made the choice to go. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac When the Sani Sabik conquers the Jove at Val'Atioth we will see true courage. So, which is it?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 11:24:00 - [191] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen I eagerly await to see the entire Jovian fleet rush to fight the mighty hordes of Revan's invincible crusade.... "I eagerly await" seem to be the new official line of the Amarrian loyalists handbook. The loyalist eagerly await so Amarr comes to ask Providence, we don't offer, we "await" eagerly await so "God" can "bless our miserable lifes" with an Emperor eagerly await so the minmatars will get back under our chains...eagerly await for that token that amarrians agents shall give the end of the day. So pathetic. The only thing you can , for sure eagerly await, is to die of boredoom. I hope the Jove really holds the archaeus of Blood. It's more then time to the Amarrian race to be reborn under it's perfect original signature. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 11:33:00 - [192] Originally by: Revan Neferis The only thing you can , for sure eagerly await, is to die of boredoom. I completely agree, I cant wait till I hear of your next great scheme for feeding your ego. Perhaps I may suggest the conquering of the EVE gate? The domination of the rogue drones? The command of the Sansha?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 11:40:00 - [193] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Originally by: Revan Neferis The only thing you can , for sure eagerly await, is to die of boredoom. I completely agree, I cant wait till I hear of your next great scheme for feeding your ego. Perhaps I may suggest the conquering of the EVE gate? The domination of the rogue drones? The command of the Sansha? The Eve Gate, neither the domination of rogue drones nor the command of sansha were responsible for 200 loses of Amarrian officers and crew , one of the most humiliating marks at Amarrian history. If you want to use sarcarstic rethoric to hide your shame, do it at least with some level of intelligence and not by spitting over the memories and souls of your ancestors who at least died in battle for the honour of a nation they would be disgusted to see now. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 11:50:00 - [194] Originally by: Revan Neferis The Eve Gate, neither the domination of rogue drones nor the command of sansha were responsible for 200 loses of Amarrian officers and crew , one of the most humiliating marks at Amarrian history. If you want to use sarcarstic rethoric to hide your shame, do it at least with some level of intelligence and not by spitting over the memories and souls of your ancestors who at least died in battle for the honour of a nation they would be disgusted to see now. Interesting... a traitor speaking about ethics and the honour of her betters. The battle that took place in that cursed land is indesputable, and whilst a defeat was suffered as with all things we as a people have learned much from it's passing. What I find disgusting is the using of such rhetoric in your latest 'flavour of the month' PR scheme to increase your own questionable self importance. The fallen gave their lives and did their duty as well as any soldier could be expected, and I have no doubt that that understood their place in unquestioning service. If you were a true Amarrian perhaps you would understand this fact, child.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 12:22:00 - [195] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Interesting... a traitor speaking about ethics and the honour of her betters. Yes, I also see a traitor here. You. Betrayal to everything that is to be amarr. betrayal to blood. And you have betters, you are the ones bending to any man called Brother "this or that", dead emperors and a imaginary entity called God. Me, no. above me, no one. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 12:51:00 - [196] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Interesting... a traitor speaking about ethics and the honour of her betters. Yes, I also see a traitor here. You. Betrayal to everything that is to be amarr. betrayal to blood. And you have betters, you are the ones bending to any man called Brother "this or that", dead emperors and a imaginary entity called God. Me, no. above me, no one. And here we see the crux of the matter. We all have our place, and it is in this service that we show our worth to the Empire and to God. EVERY true Amarrian has their part to play, and those who refuse or shirk their responsabilities are a traitor of the worst kind. You are a race traitor, and your self-serving needs means that any cries to serve the amarr are null and void. You have invalidated your own call to arms due to your lack of faith and loyalty, perhaps this may be the reason why your shouting to face the demon race will no doubt fail come to fruition. Who do you represent? Yourself, and of course the ragged remnants that seem to cling to the patchwork confused doctrine that you preach. I would find it suprising that ANY true Amarr would follow you into battle, other than those 'clone jacks' you seem so eager to speak about in your press releases.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 15:22:00 - [197] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen We all have our place This is correct. The holy apocrypha states: " Some are born to greatness and others just to feed the mind of these geniouses. " Others are born to bark. Consider yourself the third class. Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen and it is in this service that we show our worth to the Empire and to God. EVERY true Amarrian has their part to play, and those who refuse or shirk their responsabilities are a traitor of the worst kind. Correct again. Every True Amarr has their part to play and by the call of a True Amarrian blood this part is: command and conquer. Everything. Kill the weak. eliminate and subjugate. If you are not filling this responsibility, you are a traitor of the worst kind. Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Who do you represent? The Sani Sabik philosophy of Power, Richness, Strengh and liberty. You? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 16:51:00 - [198] Barking... I suppose that you determine this to be my comments on your rather overstated activities. I suppose that many have much to 'bark' about when considering your own particular brand of idiocy. You claim systems already controlled by the Amarr empire, and now you claim to lead the Amarr people in a Crusade against the Jove of all nations. Actions destined to be failures in a long, long line of failures. Congratulations on earning your legacy. The Amarr are destined to lead, that is undeniable by those of our bloodline, however it is ruling on behalf of God that sets us apart from all manner of heretics and scum. Fulfilling this obligation for your own personal ego seems to be your defining point Revan, and one that demonstrates your lacking of understanding of your own kin. You are at best a joke, a parody of the Amarr that is commonly disregarded. The Sani Sabik.... a belief or religion that seems to shift in definition to suit your current claims at one time or another. A faith that seems lacking in both Power and Strength as your fund numerous dubious causes that amount to failure. Your comical reply is awaited with interest. Bark away if it ppleases you.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 16:53:00 - [199] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Your comical reply is awaited with interest. Bark away if it ppleases you. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.24 20:45:00 - [200] I await more amusement! ----------------------------------------------
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.24 21:03:00 - [201] I see you still haven't gotten over the 'we dominated Amarr and lowsec Domain - we rule' crap you have been telling yourselves for a while now. Could you sum up what exactly you achieved again, and how it hurt the Empire or a loyalist force? Unfortunately you can't as it's just a sack of hot air. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.24 21:39:00 - [202] Quote: I eagerly await to see the entire Jovian fleet rush to fight the mighty hordes of Revan's invincible crusade... I think the word your looking for is invisible. Quote: Numbers and facts of the Star Fraction with total control of Amarr Prime and Sani Sabik forces operating at low domain, indeed shows your "exemplary" defence of Empire. Yes I'd say you really did a very impressive job of stopping those of us dedicated to serving God and Empire and expanding the influence of of our way of life to the heathens. After all we were limited to successfully escorting a Speaker of Truth, successfully completing normal operations as if nothing was happening and successfully aided our CVA allies in securing Providence and a terrorist Outpost from the UshraKhan alliance. We were so limited by the "total control" after all. But we won't pretend you didn't accomplish anything Revan. After all you provided free entertainment with your acts of tactical brilliance such as having your "military wing" wardec your allies and killing 300+ unmanned macro infected bestowers! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 21:55:00 - [203] Brother Joshua Jump cloned as per your incompentence to escort him fro gate to gate. this has been revealed and discussed several times already. One more of your veiled victories. Yes, over a thousand ships destroyed at Lower domain during 2 weeks of Sani Sabik presence. and yes again, I already know as everyone else that you dedicate your lifes to Providence, and NON AMARRIAN region of Apes. Ah by the way, let me read the topic for you: Val'Atioth. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 23:43:00 - [204] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Originally by: Casserina Leshrac When the Sani Sabik conquers the Jove at Val'Atioth we will see true courage. So, which is it? A fair enough question Tenebrion. It seems with the announcement of from the Sovereign's intent to re-take Val'Atioth, numerous non-Amarr members of the alliance have chosen to cast their lot in with since so many "true Amarr" have decided that the way of the coward is better for their survival. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.24 23:49:00 - [205] Originally by: Archbishop Yes I'd say you really did a very impressive job of stopping those of us dedicated to serving God and Empire and expanding the influence of of our way of life to the heathens. After all we were limited to successfully escorting a Speaker of Truth, successfully completing normal operations as if nothing was happening and successfully aided our CVA allies in securing Providence and a terrorist Outpost from the UshraKhan alliance. We were so limited by the "total control" after all. But we won't pretend you didn't accomplish anything Revan. After all you provided free entertainment with your acts of tactical brilliance such as having your "military wing" wardec your allies and killing 300+ unmanned macro infected bestowers! I pose a question for you Archbishop. It requires deep and insightful wisdom from a person such as yourself. What would happen, if the Sani Sabik led by Revan were able to defeat a Jove fleet at Val'Atioth? Can you provide me some insight? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 00:15:00 - [206] Quote: Brother Joshua Jump cloned as per your incompentence to escort him fro gate to gate. this has been revealed and discussed several times already. One more of your veiled victories. Yes, over a thousand ships destroyed at Lower domain during 2 weeks of Sani Sabik presence. Of course he cloned jump. You run along and keep spouting that story to make your failure look more palatable. I'm sure everyone believes you..... As for over a thousand ships I was quite amazed at the number of unfitted unmanned unarmed unloaded Bestowers you managed to kill. Similar to Gallente ducks in a shooting gallery almost. Very "interesting" indeed and very comical. Quote: "I pose a question for you Archbishop. It requires deep and insightful wisdom from a person such as yourself. What would happen, if the Sani Sabik led by Revan were able to defeat a Jove fleet at Val'Atioth? Can you provide me some insight?" What constitutes a "fleet"? Multiple Titans and Motherships and Battleships? Or Bestowers like that "fleet" of 1000 ships you destroyed in lower Providence? Either way I'm sure you'll claim complete victory over the Jovians and not let a little thing like reality get in your way. I have no interest in stopping you after all free entertainment is nice and Revan is always one of the best shows in town. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 01:37:00 - [207] Now Archbishop that wasn't the question. What if the Sani Sabik defeated to Jovians? This is what I seek the answer to. Please answer the relevant question. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.06.25 02:26:00 - [208] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Now Archbishop that wasn't the question. What if the Sani Sabik defeated to Jovians? This is what I seek the answer to. Please answer the relevant question. I would applaud it, as that would mean that somehow a group of rag-tag heretics and nobodies managed to score a victory more amazing than any in known history. Indeed it is the might of one of the most technologically inferior races in the Galaxy that will keep a god-race from committing to battle. Ofcourse, given the Jovian disease, they may already be dead and we just don't know it. Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.06.25 02:32:00 - [209] Originally by: Revan Neferis Brother Joshua Jump cloned as per your incompentence to escort him fro gate to gate. this has been revealed and discussed several times already. One more of your veiled victories. Clearly a monk with no bio-implants performed an act that he would be condemned to death for. It's impossible that Star Fraction are simply wrong, as your lover's band makes no mistakes, much like yourself. I'm interested though, how was this 'revealed'? I have heard rumors of elite espionage and infiltration agents that can know even the personal thoughts of others, perhaps you employed some of these who found this to be true? Failure seems to be something certain people are incapable of accepting. But a question, how is providence not an amarrian region? CVA work for the 'glory' of the amarr empire and to extend its influence. As CVA now owns that region in the name of the Amarr empire, that would make it Amarrian space. Or does CVA have to petition for CONCORD enforcement dispatches to be sent there for you to accept it? Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.25 03:57:00 - [210] Originally by: Namingway Originally by: Revan Neferis Brother Joshua Jump cloned as per your incompentence to escort him fro gate to gate. this has been revealed and discussed several times already. One more of your veiled victories. Clearly a monk with no bio-implants performed an act that he would be condemned to death for. It's impossible that Star Fraction are simply wrong, as your lover's band makes no mistakes, much like yourself. I'm interested though, how was this 'revealed'? I have heard rumors of elite espionage and infiltration agents that can know even the personal thoughts of others, perhaps you employed some of these who found this to be true? Failure seems to be something certain people are incapable of accepting. But a question, how is providence not an amarrian region? CVA work for the 'glory' of the amarr empire and to extend its influence. As CVA now owns that region in the name of the Amarr empire, that would make it Amarrian space. Or does CVA have to petition for CONCORD enforcement dispatches to be sent there for you to accept it? I am sure that efforts are underway to make CONCORD a familiar presence in Providence. I for one, look forward to the day that honest traders can make a living there, without Revan and her cronies causing chaos unpunished by CONCORD. Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips I swear i was in on this and someone took me out -Scyd How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 08:17:00 - [211] Originally by: Revan Neferis Brother Joshua Jump cloned as per your incompentence to escort him fro gate to gate. this has been revealed and discussed several times already. One more of your veiled victories. I wasn't aware that it was even possible to clone jump from a space-borne cargo vessel. And I suppose that you think that the thousands of non-capsuleers who were accompanying Brother Joshua also clone jumped? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 08:20:00 - [212] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Now Archbishop that wasn't the question. What if the Sani Sabik defeated to Jovians? This is what I seek the answer to. Please answer the relevant question. It's always a pleasure to see one enemy defeat another and in doing so weaken themselves. But as I believe I've already said though, you won't even see any Jovians in Atioth. No doubt you'll claim that their absence counts as a sign that the Jovians are scared of you, but in truth you don't even register on their radar. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 10:20:00 - [213] Unfortunately Blake, this is not an information a mere misguided like you would know. Tell your God to come and rely this intel to me, that the jovians won't appear. Or make your dead Emperor mutter the words. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 10:22:00 - [214] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 25/06/2007 10:21:16 Originally by: Revan Neferis Unfortunately Blake, this is not an information a mere misguided like you would know. Tell your God to come and rely this intel to me, that the jovians won't appear. Or make your dead Emperor mutter the words. Then go to Atioth and prove me wrong. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 10:37:00 - [215] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 25/06/2007 10:21:16 Originally by: Revan Neferis Unfortunately Blake, this is not an information a mere misguided like you would know. Tell your God to come and rely this intel to me, that the jovians won't appear. Or make your dead Emperor mutter the words. Then go to Atioth and prove me wrong. As if I even remember of your existence when I wake up at mornings... I don't have to prove you wrong, as I said you are a mere insignificant whisper buzzing my ears. You are the one having your time and existance around me dear, eating from the grains I leave over the table at m spare times. See if I'll go to waste my precious time commenting your threat "glorious battle at Ape's gate" "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Boma Airaken APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:06:00 - [216] Did you win yet?
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:08:00 - [217] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac What would happen, if the Sani Sabik led by Revan were able to defeat a Jove fleet at Val'Atioth? The answer is rather simple really: Absolutely nothing. If the Jove decide to engage you it will be their decision and their decision only - you have yourselves admitted to not being able to force an engagement. If the Jove decide to engage you it will be with forces they are willing to risk and hence quite able to do without. If they should decide to deploy forces so small that you are able to defeat them, it will say nothing of the true strength of the Jove. At most it will speak of a rather weird sense of humour where they would like to observer your antics after the event. In order to defeat the Jove, little one, you need to inflict losses upon them they will find it hard to bear. You are utterly incapable of doing so. All that will happen should you actually survive your little excursion too Atioth is that we will see another stream of propaganda by you and your mistress. We are used to that. So what will happen if you 'defeat' the jove? Absolutely nothing. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:12:00 - [218] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 25/06/2007 11:10:48 look.. it's a loyalist AGAIN... yes, the ape hunters... yes the ones who won't be in Val'Atioth. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:16:00 - [219] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Interesting... a traitor speaking about ethics and the honour of her betters. Yes, I also see a traitor here. You. Betrayal to everything that is to be amarr. betrayal to blood. And you have betters, you are the ones bending to any man called Brother "this or that", dead emperors and a imaginary entity called God. Me, no. above me, no one. Betrayal to everything that is to be amarr? You are a traitor to the empire. You will acknowledge this yourself. You are also the leader of a religious cult, and yet you claim that there is no GOD. Yet you claim that noone is above you. That Ms. Neferis makes you a traitor to even your own beliefs. Or perhaps your little Sani Sabik perversion is no longer a religious cult? Or is it simply that my 'lacking brain connections' fail to keep up with the "flavour of the day" beliefs you adhere to? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:25:00 - [220] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Or is it simply that my 'lacking brain connections' fail to keep up with the "flavour of the day" beliefs you adhere to? Yes. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:51:00 - [221] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Casserina Leshrac What would happen, if the Sani Sabik led by Revan were able to defeat a Jove fleet at Val'Atioth? The answer is rather simple really: Absolutely nothing. If the Jove decide to engage you it will be their decision and their decision only - you have yourselves admitted to not being able to force an engagement. If the Jove decide to engage you it will be with forces they are willing to risk and hence quite able to do without. If they should decide to deploy forces so small that you are able to defeat them, it will say nothing of the true strength of the Jove. At most it will speak of a rather weird sense of humour where they would like to observer your antics after the event. In order to defeat the Jove, little one, you need to inflict losses upon them they will find it hard to bear. You are utterly incapable of doing so. All that will happen should you actually survive your little excursion too Atioth is that we will see another stream of propaganda by you and your mistress. We are used to that. So what will happen if you 'defeat' the jove? Absolutely nothing. The point Octavinus is, if the Sani Sabik defeats the Jove. Can you tell me if there was ever another expeditionary force sent from the Empire to Jove Space? Now it looks like the Sani Sabik Alliance, volunteers all, will fill in the void that all Amarr cower from. Yes you can hide behind the shroud, profits or you dead god's will. But it is you and people like you who show the true face of Empire - a herd of sheep. Really it is no wonder why the Sovereign conceived the idea herself. And sought to lead the battle force to Val'Atioth. She and I both believe that this is stain of shame upon the psyche of the Amarr people. A stain that should have been removed long ago. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
St Nosferatu Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.26 07:25:00 - [222] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Or is it simply that my 'lacking brain connections' fail to keep up with the "flavour of the day" beliefs you adhere to? You are welcome to join the first group of tested subjects as presented at our Eugenics Program. The scale used to the minmatars will fit you well. Bloodveil MKULTRA Scientist
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.26 09:17:00 - [223] I rather deliberately gave you "Sani Sabik" people the offer of either arguing your case or resorting to base insults in your reply to my post. Your choice of words in your replies, i believe, says it all. You simply have no credible answer to the question: How can you be religious without believing in GOD? What will you do now, I wonder? Throw some more pathetic insults or try to argue your already lost cause? Let us leave that for a while and instead discuss the matter of efficiency. Revan posted her intention to fly to Atioth 12 days ago, and since we have seen nothing but chatter from your alliance. How long does it take you people to actually put together an operation? Don't you think it's about time you stop merely declaring your intentions? Don't you think it's about time you actually go and try to carry them through? Or are you incapable of even a pathetic attempt to live up to your grand words? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:52:00 - [224] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus I rather deliberately gave you "Sani Sabik" people the offer of either arguing your case or resorting to base insults in your reply to my post. Your choice of words in your replies, i believe, says it all. You simply have no credible answer to the question: How can you be religious without believing in GOD? What will you do now, I wonder? Throw some more pathetic insults or try to argue your already lost cause? Let us leave that for a while and instead discuss the matter of efficiency. Revan posted her intention to fly to Atioth 12 days ago, and since we have seen nothing but chatter from your alliance. How long does it take you people to actually put together an operation? Don't you think it's about time you stop merely declaring your intentions? Don't you think it's about time you actually go and try to carry them through? Or are you incapable of even a pathetic attempt to live up to your grand words? My Temple is my body My Heart and Soul is Divine Through my own Divinity I am the God of my Self. I believe in my Self. It obvious that you sir are lost to stagnate faith of a dead god. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.26 13:16:00 - [225] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Can you tell me if there was ever another expeditionary force sent from the Empire to Jove Space? You're not actually sending one now. Atioth isn't in Jove space. -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.27 05:18:00 - [226] Atioth is chosen because it was where the first battle happened. It matters not where it is located. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:46:00 - [227] Originally by: Revan Neferis Atioth is chosen because it was where the first battle happened. It matters not where it is located. Nor, apparently, does it matter if there are any enemies present. You've had 2 weeks now to organize your little expedition. How much time do you need? Get going. Or will your 'campaign' take you no further than IGS? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:13:00 - [228] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Revan Neferis Atioth is chosen because it was where the first battle happened. It matters not where it is located. Nor, apparently, does it matter if there are any enemies present. I said I'll fight Jovians, not PIE. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:30:00 - [229] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Revan Neferis Atioth is chosen because it was where the first battle happened. It matters not where it is located. Nor, apparently, does it matter if there are any enemies present. I said I'll fight Jovians, not PIE. I believe that the enemies being referred to were Jovians. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:39:00 - [230] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Revan Neferis Atioth is chosen because it was where the first battle happened. It matters not where it is located. Nor, apparently, does it matter if there are any enemies present. I said I'll fight Jovians, not PIE. By the looks of it you'll fight neither - but you will be making a lot of noice here on IGS. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:32:00 - [231] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus By the looks of it you'll fight neither - but you will be making a lot of noice here on IGS. No, I do not adopt Pie and CVA policies. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 18:55:00 - [232] I'd never expect you to adopt the policies of decency, piety and acting true to your word as it's simply not in your nature I'd fly there in a fleet of the faithful for god. If the jovians turned up, i'd fight and i'd be ready to die. I'd never even consider flying along side a heretic like yourself. You are hardly equipped to call all 'true amarr' to arms because you've forsaken the true amarr in turning to heathen practices. Your words carry no weight with the faithful true amarr. You can't even be considered true amarr in the eyes of god and his people, you've as much sin on your soul as the most repugnant matari. As such your call to the true amarr is like wading into a darkened poisonous swamp and beckoning us to follow you and your band of mongrels so search for an enemy who has long since left. I beg of you show us different and go to Atioth on your little expedition, until then you're merely spoilt vociferous lunatic.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.27 19:00:00 - [233] Leave us out of this please.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:26:00 - [234] Originally by: Pezzle Leave us out of this please. As the op of this thread, I would take this advice to your CVA member Octavious. Your "holy duty" is to protect your space at providence, the old dusty rocks and chase apes. Leave Val' Atioth to the ones who still carries the true Amarr gene within. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:49:00 - [235] I have yet to hear about this epic battle of yours...
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 04:44:00 - [236] I couldn't help but notice on the sensor map aboard my flagship there were very few (and often no) pilots in the area of space you claim to be waiting in to conquer the Jovians with your massive capital warship fleet. When are you planning to arrive there? From the eight pages of communications here I'd have thought you'd already have the Jovian leaders head on a pike. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 07:52:00 - [237] You loyalists should be hunting Apes.... Details of the operation is given at our secure comm systems which you're not infiltrated otherwise, you would have your answers. Incompetents even there. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 08:15:00 - [238] Originally by: Archbishop I couldn't help but notice on the sensor map aboard my flagship there were very few (and often no) pilots in the area of space you claim to be waiting in to conquer the Jovians with your massive capital warship fleet. When are you planning to arrive there? From the eight pages of communications here I'd have thought you'd already have the Jovian leaders head on a pike. Archbishop You have to remember Archbishop that The Sani Sabik alliance is comprised of individuals who worship the concept of ego. As such, you can't expect them to organise an operation as fast as we're used to seeing in PIE, as they spend so much time talking about the operation and drawing attention to themselves. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 08:24:00 - [239] Not as much as PIE spends here a IGS spaming forums and threads that has nothing to do with them. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 10:26:00 - [240] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/06/2007 10:25:34 Originally by: Revan Neferis Not as much as PIE spends here a IGS spaming forums and threads that has nothing to do with them. Your initial statement included the following sentence: Originally by: Revan Neferis Individual comments out of topic or in detriment of the operation will be ignored, this is not a discussion of faction believes. Given that you have not ignored the comments of PIE members, I can only assume that you consider our comments have been valid and relevant to the discussion at hand. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:40:00 - [241] Quote: You have to remember Archbishop that The Sani Sabik alliance is comprised of individuals who worship the concept of ego. As such, you can't expect them to organise an operation as fast as we're used to seeing in PIE, as they spend so much time talking about the operation and drawing attention to themselves. Quite true Admiral Blake after all one with secret comm channels and plans among plans who also in the same breath would issue secret plans for public review certainly is more obsessed with drawing attention to themselves than in any type of actual "victory" or "objective". Quote: Not as much as PIE spends here a IGS spaming forums and threads that has nothing to do with them. Actually it has everything to do with us as Amarrians. After all in your very first post on this thread you said "Revenge of Vak'Atioth is what is needed to heal the Sick Amarrian's wounded psyche. We are not meant to chase slaves conquesting lands of apes as if there are pride on it.". This would seem to indicate you think there is something wrong with defending the Empire against terrorism. As longtime supporters of the Empire it isn't a leap at all to consider we would respond is it. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:43:00 - [242] Originally by: Archbishop Actually it has everything to do with us as Amarrians. Than instead of spaming with worthless answers to add on page numbers, get yout ship ready to fly to Val'Atioth. If you're not here to do this, move along. Apes may get a banana out of Providence while you turn your eyes here. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:47:00 - [243] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/06/2007 11:45:58 Why would we want to fly to Atioth when there is nothing relevant there? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:50:00 - [244] Originally by: Rodj Blake Why would we want to fly to Atioth when there is nothing relevant there? Considering your concept of "relevant" Yes, there are no minmatar Apes or Amarrian boys. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:55:00 - [245] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Why would we want to fly to Atioth when there is nothing relevant there? Considering your concept of "relevant" Yes, there are no minmatar Apes or Amarrian boys. And also, no Jovians. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 11:57:00 - [246] Quote: Than instead of spaming with worthless answers to add on page numbers, get yout ship ready to fly to Val'Atioth. If you're not here to do this, move along. Apes may get a banana out of Providence while you turn your eyes here. Actually we've been quite busy here fighting real threats to the Empire and our way of life and wouldn't dream of wasting our time flying off to whereever it is you are (since the in ship map indicates your not where you say you are). Even if by some miracle a Jovian capital fleet appeared to fight you and if by even a greater miracle you defeat them somehow it's a moot point since they've not been an active threat to Amarr for centuries. Wasting time fighting them in some far off area of space not adjoining Amarr would simply be a waste of time when there are those actually declared to the goal of bringing down Amarr who are right here now today. But just as you sat in Providence killing macroes infested Bestowers by the hundreds I'll leave you to this yet another in the long line of your tactically "brilliant" manuevers. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 12:04:00 - [247] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Than instead of spaming with worthless answers to add on page numbers, get yout ship ready to fly to Val'Atioth. If you're not here to do this, move along. Apes may get a banana out of Providence while you turn your eyes here. Actually we've been quite busy here fighting real threats to the Empire and our way of life and wouldn't dream of wasting our time flying off to whereever it is you are (since the in ship map indicates your not where you say you are). Even if by some miracle a Jovian capital fleet appeared to fight you and if by even a greater miracle you defeat them somehow it's a moot point since they've not been an active threat to Amarr for centuries. Wasting time fighting them in some far off area of space not adjoining Amarr would simply be a waste of time when there are those actually declared to the goal of bringing down Amarr who are right here now today. But just as you sat in Providence killing macroes infested Bestowers by the hundreds I'll leave you to this yet another in the long line of your tactically "brilliant" manuevers. Archbishop So then defeat of Imperial forces was jut propaganda. And that the Rebellion that followed was also a farce. The Empire just allowed the Minmatar to leave and make their own Republic? You are more delusional than I previously thought. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 14:22:00 - [248] Oh they happened, nothing we can do to return and prevent them so we fight the enemies of the empire in the here and now. Did you actually have a point in that post?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 14:37:00 - [249] Originally by: Raane Thyandar Oh they happened, nothing we can do to return and prevent them so we fight the enemies of the empire in the here and now. Did you actually have a point in that post? Do you have a point in this post? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:58:00 - [250] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac So then defeat of Imperial forces was jut propaganda. And that the Rebellion that followed was also a farce. The Empire just allowed the Minmatar to leave and make their own Republic? I guess this needs stated again, the rebellion began before the battle at Vak'Atioh, learn your history.
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:28:00 - [251] Have they gone yet? Ah, no, obviously not! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.28 16:44:00 - [252] And lo the joke continues
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:16:00 - [253] Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 28/06/2007 17:15:55 Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 16:16:57 Originally by: Casserina Leshrac So then defeat of Imperial forces was jut propaganda. And that the Rebellion that followed was also a farce. The Empire just allowed the Minmatar to leave and make their own Republic? I guess this needs stated again, the rebellion began before the battle at Vak'Atioh with the incident at Diemnon, learn your history. My point had nothing to do with written record. Rather, to imply that Imperial censors will re-write history according to the lack of events in order the stain of shame upon every Amarrian soul. Of course that doesn't say much about the official either now does it? Most of which beats strong in the Sani Sabik, rather than the empire these days. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:21:00 - [254] Originally by: Raane Thyandar Oh they happened, nothing we can do to return and prevent them so we fight the enemies of the empire in the here and now. Did you actually have a point in that post? And now I have for you the perfect example of an Amarrian sheep. Instead of the Empire preparing to take out the real threat, they spend all their resources challenging apes. The real enemy of the Empire, is not the Minmatar, nor the Jove it's the Loyalists. Had this been an Empire of the Amarr, there would be no question that it is Jove who pose the greatest threat. Instead my case has been made that with Loyalist sheep like this who needs an Empire. People like this are seeds of the Empires eventual end. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.28 17:29:00 - [255] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 17:33:02 Which beats strong? Shame or the need to re-write history? Edit: Yes, those who try to live by the Empire's standards, and combat against those who would see it destroyed (yours truly included), will lead to its end. Who is being delusional now?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:49:00 - [256] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 17:33:02 Which beats strong? Shame or the need to re-write history? Edit: Yes, those who try to live by the Empire's standards, and combat against those who would see it destroyed (yours truly included), will lead to its end. Who is being delusional now? Re-write the history is a need for psicological developemnt of the next generations. Just a dying breed that have no regards for future can't ackowledge this basic truth. And no, we don't want the Empire destroyed. We want it restored. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:52:00 - [257] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 18:52:30 To change the Empire into something that fits with your image of what it should be would be destroying what the Empire is. Edit: Also, you can't rewrite history, only learn from it. You seem to have failed in that, considering your current course of action.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:59:00 - [258] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 18:52:30 To change the Empire into something that fits with your image of what it should be would be destroying what the Empire is. Edit: Also, you can't rewrite history, only learn from it. You seem to have failed in that, considering your current course of action. The empire that it is fits just a few deluded loyalists. I didn't know you became one of them. Also, you can re-write history by changing it's focus. If actually a fleet of 2000 ships now marches against te Jove, this will be writen at our children's holorels. The nexy generation will know that not only shame covers their blood but actually that there is Sani Sabik, that there is Amarrians still who believes on what Amarr is. For essence of right. And there is no fail to Val'Atioth worse then it's own facts and now the shame and cowardice it spreads. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.28 20:00:00 - [259] I am loyal to my blood and as such the Empire. I may not agree with everything it does and says (or doesn't say) but that doesn't mean I will turn my back on it (yet). Also, I have no shame upon my psyche/soul because of an incident I had no part in, if I did at one time, than I shed it when I became a capsuleer pilot. The Empire itself may feel shame in its inadequacies but those are not mine. You came here professing the need for True Amarrians to cleanse themselves. For those of us who already gave up these things long ago your call has no meaning or real purpose. You call this cowardice, however I say I'm walking the path you yourself teach. As stated by one of your followers (Casserina), "The primary purpose of the Sani Sabik is to achieve ascendancy to godhood. There is the Divine Condition, where a Sani Sabik, strips the last of his humanity away and achieves the mantle of godhood." By your own teachings capsuleer pilots should let go of the emotions that tether them to their humanity, thus ascending to something greater. Yet here we have to saying that we must not forget them and even use them to further a goal. This flip-floping is one of the reasons I do not take you as seriously anymore.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.28 21:21:00 - [260] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 20:13:21 I am loyal to my blood and as such the Empire. I may not agree with everything it does and says (or doesn't say) but that doesn't mean I will turn my back on it (yet). Also, I have no shame upon my psyche/soul because of an incident I had no part in, if I did at one time, than I shed it when I became a capsuleer pilot. The Empire itself may feel shame in its inadequacies but those are not mine. You came here professing the need for True Amarrians to cleanse themselves. For those of us who already gave up these things long ago your call has no meaning or real purpose. You call this cowardice, however I say I'm walking the path you yourself teach. As stated by one of your followers (Casserina), "The primary purpose of the Sani Sabik is to achieve ascendancy to godhood. There is the Divine Condition, where a Sani Sabik, strips the last of his humanity away and achieves the mantle of godhood." By your own teachings capsuleer pilots should let go of the emotions that tether them to their humanity, thus ascending to something greater. Yet here we have you saying that we must not forget them and even use them to further a goal. This flip-floping, or double speak as it were, is one of the reasons I do not take you as seriously anymore. edit: spelling At the end of all , You just staes what it is to be a Sani Sabik We we all achive this way, the path of Godhood is the next step of evolution. Now, pay attention to this: each individual will achieve this condition by it's own means. I have my path, I know what I need. The Illuminati has her path, she knows what she needs. This is called Individuality. The Sani Sabik faith is what unite us. Val'Atioth is a colective healing for the psique of history and race. You are mixing subjects for the purpose of denying a faith you embrace. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.29 02:26:00 - [261] Quote: My point had nothing to do with written record. Rather, to imply that Imperial censors will re-write history according to the lack of events in order the stain of shame upon every Amarrian soul. The Empire has always acknowledged what happend as evidenced by the fact you know what happend. Were it to be censored the defeat would never have become public. As for your point having "nothing to do with written records" a little thing known as reality has never affected anything you've done in the past. At least you're consistant. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.29 03:22:00 - [262] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: My point had nothing to do with written record. Rather, to imply that Imperial censors will re-write history according to the lack of events in order the stain of shame upon every Amarrian soul. The Empire has always acknowledged what happend as evidenced by the fact you know what happend. Were it to be censored the defeat would never have become public. As for your point having "nothing to do with written records" a little thing known as reality has never affected anything you've done in the past. At least you're consistant. So for you have done nothing to dissuade me that people of the Empire are one giant sheep herd. You accept defeat from an enemy. Acknowledge that the enemy is superior in every aspect. Most Amarr fear the Jove, more than the Theology Council. So to prove that you are not you take your angst out Minmatar whom you consider to be fodder for your slave camps. And still you can not get that right since they are quite capable of matching anything the Empire throws out at them. A victory against the Jove is what is necessary to show New Eden that the Amarr people are force to be reckoned with. I would like to turn this discussion to some more constructive like how we defeat the Jove. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.29 03:55:00 - [263] Quote: So for you have done nothing to dissuade me that people of the Empire are one giant sheep herd. You accept defeat from an enemy. Acknowledge that the enemy is superior in every aspect. Faith in the true God of Amarr hardly makes us sheep. Then again God is like a sheperd to us all and we are His flock so perhaps that is a correct analogy. I am not ashamed of my role as a servant of God nor is anyone I know. We serve the greater good not ourselves. As for accepting defeat we can not change history for it has already been written. It is incorrect however to assume we accept the enemy is in any way superior to ourselves for clearly they are not. One small battle against a pittance of an Amarrian fleet does not make victory in a war and as you'll recall the Jovians didn't pursue their sin against the Amarr past that one battle. The Jovians have paid the price for their sin already as they are infected with the Jovian Disease. God sees all that has happend and that will happen and thus centuries before the defeat He saw the sin of the Jovians and infected them in this manner even before that fateful battle occured. Such is His foresight and wisdom. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Lucius Cornelius	Posted - 2007.06.29 09:11:00 - [264] They say that every journey begins with the first step. You've had 2+ weeks now to take that step towards Atioth. Don't you think it's about time you get going? Otherwise, people may start to think that you'll go no further than IGS.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.29 09:28:00 - [265] Originally by: Lucius Cornelius They say that every journey begins with the first step. You've had 2+ weeks now to take that step towards Atioth. Don't you think it's about time you get going? Otherwise, people may start to think that you'll go no further than IGS. If you have been part of the internal channel where operations are set, you would spare yourself of showing ignorance here. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.29 09:54:00 - [266] What, no victory yet? Methinks much postulating is afoot grins
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.29 11:46:00 - [267] Originally by: Archbishop Faith in the true God of Amarr hardly makes us sheep. Then again God is like a sheperd to us all and we are His flock so perhaps that is a correct analogy. I am not ashamed of my role as a servant of God nor is anyone I know. We serve the greater good not ourselves. As for accepting defeat we can not change history for it has already been written. It is incorrect however to assume we accept the enemy is in any way superior to ourselves for clearly they are not. One small battle against a pittance of an Amarrian fleet does not make victory in a war and as you'll recall the Jovians didn't pursue their sin against the Amarr past that one battle. The Jovians have paid the price for their sin already as they are infected with the Jovian Disease. God sees all that has happend and that will happen and thus centuries before the defeat He saw the sin of the Jovians and infected them in this manner even before that fateful battle occured. Such is His foresight and wisdom. Archbishop Tell me was your god there for the Amarr when they were easily defeated by the Jove? The combined crews of over 200 vessels a sacrifice to the Emperor. Followed by the heretical trials upon the dependants and relatives of those who died at Val'Atioth to pay for your dead god's abandonment? The Sovereign seeks to demonstrate that it is the Sani Sabik that will be victorious (since the Empire is full of sheep ready for their own slaughter). Many Jove will die, and much knowledge that they are unwilling to give up will be gained. Val'Atioth is more than a symbol of the shame of the Amarr people. It can be a symbol of hope as the Sani Sabik will find new ways to bring the Amarr people back on their course with destiny as the true sovereigns of the galaxy. Your Dead Faith has shown nothing in this regards except you like fight lesser lifeforms just to prove that you can. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Raane Thyandar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.29 20:08:00 - [268] Is there really a need to rehash this. It is my belief that God taught us a lesson at Vak' Atioth: A defeat like the fire which would temper steel. Who am i to question the wrath of god, i'm a mere human, who am i to question the intentions of the almighty. If God had wished us to succeed on that day we would have. Once again - the terrorist organisations arrayed against us are more of a threat to the empire now than the Jove are now. I hear no threats coming from Jove, i've never seen a Jovian vessel let alone been fired upon by one, these and more we have from the matari terrorists. You insist on calling them apes, this does them a disservice, they are misguided and lesser but i can respect their passion and their fighting prowess, if they didn't have these; they would not be the threat they are and we might have the same liberty you do to chase whatever whimsical fancy the month brings you. You will not fight the Jove because they won't be there and will not turn up for you. If they do, do you have a force assembled to rival the amarrian task force which fought at Vak'Atioth? What card do you hold up your sleeves which makes you believe you will be assured victory? Oh, sorry i forgot we don't have access to your classified intel channels and that would be telling.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.29 23:04:00 - [269] Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 29/06/2007 23:03:18 Originally by: Raane Thyandar Is there really a need to rehash this. It is my belief that God taught us a lesson at Vak' Atioth: A defeat like the fire which would temper steel. Who am i to question the wrath of god, i'm a mere human, who am i to question the intentions of the almighty. If God had wished us to succeed on that day we would have. Tempered steel? Perhaps you haven't been around the empire lately it look more like. The decay has turned it all to dust. Originally by: Raane Thyandar Once again - the terrorist organisations arrayed against us are more of a threat to the empire now than the Jove are now. I hear no threats coming from Jove, i've never seen a Jovian vessel let alone been fired upon by one, these and more we have from the matari terrorists. You insist on calling them apes, this does them a disservice, they are misguided and lesser but i can respect their passion and their fighting prowess, if they didn't have these; they would not be the threat they are and we might have the same liberty you do to chase whatever whimsical fancy the month brings you. And you call yourself an Amarr? Respect for apes are you mad? I guarantee you a force that defeats the Jove, will have very little to fear from the terrorists. Originally by: Raane Thyandar You will not fight the Jove because they won't be there and will not turn up for you. If they do, do you have a force assembled to rival the amarrian task force which fought at Vak'Atioth? What card do you hold up your sleeves which makes you believe you will be assured victory? Oh, sorry i forgot we don't have access to your classified intel channels and that would be telling. And there is a good reason for that. History recounts how the Empire, arrogant with pride, broadcasted their intentions to the Jove allowing them to prepare for the upcoming battle. This time they won't have that opportunity. If you want to know what the plans for Val'Atioth I suggest you stop complaining and join the operation as this the true duty of every Amarr. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Libi Sax	Posted - 2007.06.29 23:23:00 - [270] Edited by: Libi Sax on 29/06/2007 23:22:24 ((alt post >.<))
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Rho Dynamics Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.29 23:24:00 - [271] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac And you call yourself an Amarr? Respect for apes are you mad? I guarantee you a force that defeats the Jove, will have very little to fear from the terrorists. Better an ape than a sheep. Originally by: Casserina Leshrac And there is a good reason for that. History recounts how the Empire, arrogant with pride, broadcasted their intentions to the Jove allowing them to prepare for the upcoming battle. This time they won't have that opportunity. If you want to know what the plans for Val'Atioth I suggest you stop complaining and join the operation as this the true duty of every Amarr. My god the Sani Sabik have gotten frighteningly efficent, they're disproving their own claims before anyone else has a chance to respond now! You speak of arrogantly broadcasting intentions.....you mean like your brain-dead leader has been doing for the past two weeks!?!? Are you serriously suggesting that the wielders of the most extensive and most sophisticated spy networks in the known universe are incapable of reading a public broadcast? Revan must be passing out some powerful narcotics to induce that kind of stupidity. ----------------------------- Naturally my views are my own as I'm not my alliance's spokesman, ect.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.06.30 15:39:00 - [272] Edited by: Casserina Leshrac on 30/06/2007 15:37:35 Actually our intention was to have a combined coalition of True Amarr pilots reclaim their destiny and birth right. This is the reason behind adding our statements to IGS. It is obvious to me now that the Empire is comprised of sheep thinking that they are Amarr. They are the cowards that the Empire holds as their heroes and champions. So be it. All that has been discussed is that the volunteers from the Sani Sabik will be going to Val'Atioth to deal with the matter. There has been no other release of time tables of battle. Those are sensitive information and will not be released. There is private channel available to those wishing to go to Val'Atioth which is to discuss intimate details of the plan. Of course pilots wanting to go under the leadership of the Sovereign are welcome to attend. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:14:00 - [273] How does the operation go? Any sign of the Jovians yet? I've been watching the holovid news daily expecting to see the highlights of the SaniSabik fleet in action but so far I've heard nothing. I couldn't help but notice your new protocol post and was wondering if this meant you were abandoning VakÆAtioth and moving onto something new. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:22:00 - [274] Originally by: Archbishop How does the operation go? Any sign of the Jovians yet? If you have part of the operations you would have you answers. Originally by: Archbishop I've been watching the holovid news daily expecting to see the highlights of the SaniSabik fleet in action but so far I've heard nothing. Anoher proof of your deficient "intelligence" department Originally by: Archbishop I couldn't help but notice your new protocol post and was wondering if this meant you were abandoning VakÆAtioth and moving onto something new. Archbishop The protocols have nothing to do with the Jove. I trully hope you didn't embarrass yourself by mixing both complete unrelated subjects. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:28:00 - [275] Considering that Revan's past actions indicate that she will blow her own trumpet at the first opportunity and therefore would have had a victory announcement prepared even in advance of any engagement, I think that we can consider three options. * The expedition to Atioth has still not left, and will probably never leave. * The expedition tried to go to Atioth, but was destroyed en route. * The expedition got as far as Atioth but found nothing there. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:35:00 - [276] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 10/07/2007 12:35:16 Considering Rodj's poor ability of rethoric and intelligence gathering he will continue praying to his God without knowing. Marvellous display! "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:39:00 - [277] By all means continue to insult me rather than address the lack of progress that you've made towards your goal. It merely underlines just how little you've acheived. I imagine that the pre-departure****tail party must have got a bit out of hand or something. Anyway, I shall continue to monitor this discussion to see if you do ever actually get to Atioth. I most likely won't respond to any more of your attempts to distract people from the real issues. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.*
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:46:00 - [278] Originally by: Rodj Blake Anyway, I shall continue to monitor .... I know I give your pathetic life, a meaning. By all means spend your countless umproductive hours "monitoring" "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:55:00 - [279] Quote: * The expedition to Atioth has still not left, and will probably never leave. * The expedition tried to go to Atioth, but was destroyed en route. * The expedition got as far as Atioth but found nothing there. You forgot the fourth option Admiral Blake. * The expedition goes there, discovers secret Jovian intelligence indicating the Jovians were about to arrive but were scared off by the SaniSabik capital fleet, and fled in terror thus granting the SaniSabik their "big victory". Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.11 10:45:00 - [280] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: * The expedition to Atioth has still not left, and will probably never leave. * The expedition tried to go to Atioth, but was destroyed en route. * The expedition got as far as Atioth but found nothing there. You forgot the fourth option Admiral Blake. * The expedition goes there, discovers secret Jovian intelligence indicating the Jovians were about to arrive but were scared off by the SaniSabik capital fleet, and fled in terror thus granting the SaniSabik their "big victory". Archbishop In my defence, I only considered those possibilities with a probability of greater than 0.000001 Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 11:47:00 - [281] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Archbishop Quote: * The expedition to Atioth has still not left, and will probably never leave. * The expedition tried to go to Atioth, but was destroyed en route. * The expedition got as far as Atioth but found nothing there. You forgot the fourth option Admiral Blake. * The expedition goes there, discovers secret Jovian intelligence indicating the Jovians were about to arrive but were scared off by the SaniSabik capital fleet, and fled in terror thus granting the SaniSabik their "big victory". Archbishop In my defence, I only considered those possibilities with a probability of greater than 0.000001 LOL I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Rakiro Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.07.11 15:58:00 - [282] So it's been almost a month and so far there have been no developments on this whatsoever. Just mindless bickering between Amarrians. Some curious part of me almost wishes I had been born an Amarr so I could take part just to see if anything is actually going to happen. -Rakiro
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.11 17:27:00 - [283] Originally by: Rakiro So it's been almost a month and so far there have been no developments on this whatsoever. Just mindless bickering between Amarrians. Some curious part of me almost wishes I had been born an Amarr so I could take part just to see if anything is actually going to happen. This operation is still in the forefront of Sani Sabik plans. However, details will not be revealed on open frequencies. That is why there is a channel that has been created for this project. Interested parties wishing to join in the conquest of Val'Atioth system feel free to consult with the Sovereign of Bloodveil Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.12 13:53:00 - [284] It will-- or rather, would-- be a curious experiment to see just how many true True Amarr you end up gathering through this. It would be just like the Jovians to send an agent or ten, be it to assess the threat, infiltrate your organization, or just gratify their sense of humor (I'm sure someone in the Directorate would consider it a fine joke to have Atioth invaded by a majority-Jovian force). Unfortunately, it's unlikely that anyone but the Jovians would ever know if they -did- infiltrate your operations, or whether they already have, and to what extent.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:31:00 - [285] Originally by: Aria Jenneth It will-- or rather, would-- be a curious experiment to see just how many true True Amarr you end up gathering through this. It would be just like the Jovians to send an agent or ten, be it to assess the threat, infiltrate your organization, or just gratify their sense of humor (I'm sure someone in the Directorate would consider it a fine joke to have Atioth invaded by a majority-Jovian force). Unfortunately, it's unlikely that anyone but the Jovians would ever know if they -did- infiltrate your operations, or whether they already have, and to what extent. I don't have the exact number of True Amarr in the ranks for the operation. However, a number of the other races have expressed an interest in going to Val'Atioth with the Sovereign and myself. It is unfortunate really. An opportunity for the Amarr to erase a century old shame. And other, worthy example from the other empires in New Eden are more than willing to take their place. All the Sovereign has to do is admit them into the operation. I stand by comment that all Loyalist and their ilk are sheep. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Tenebrion Darkness Amarr United Technologies II	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:30:00 - [286] As I stated before, myself and many other True Amarrians, have no shame over this incident. Therefore, another line will be need to persuade us to join this opertaion. Also, I find it comedic that someone who is obediently following Revan's summons is accusing those who aren't of being sheep.
McScruff Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 20:51:00 - [287] Ah come now, she is clearly not a sheep. What we have here is a goat. after all she is happly gulping down all the rubbish Revan is feeding her. ______________________________________ Warning: May contain traces of sarcasm
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.12 21:39:00 - [288] Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness As I stated before, myself and many other True Amarrians, have no shame over this incident. Therefore, another line will be need to persuade us to join this opertaion. Also, I find it comedic that someone who is obediently following Revan's summons is accusing those who aren't of being sheep. As you well know I am a student of Lady Ravan, and while it is encouraged to that take my initiative on variety of projects, I am not full of own self-importance to understand that there is more to learn about the universe. You once attempted to show me that there were other options. And I have to some extent looked at them. However, my way is that of the Sani Sabik. And right now my teacher and guide on this quest is also my Sovereign. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.24 20:25:00 - [289] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Sacrificed any Jovians yet? Have you? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.24 20:38:00 - [290] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Sacrificed any Jovians yet? Have you? Kallanagh has not make a grand announcment of an attack on the Jovians. Have you? ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.24 20:51:00 - [291] Originally by: Reash Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Sacrificed any Jovians yet? Have you? Kallanagh has not make a grand announcment of an attack on the Jovians. Have you? I won't deny that we made an announcement in regards to the attack on the Jove. Which is why I so kindly moved Kallanagh comment to the appropriate thread. However, there seems to be an unusual interest in the confidential nature of our plans in regards to our operations against the Jove. Another interesting point, is that vast majority of these voices seem to the same voices who would not participate when it was this was to be an all-Amarr operation. Care to elaborate? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.07.24 21:31:00 - [292] Mhmm, yes......... Well we're all VERY excited to see when this little PR stunt will take place, no doubt we will all be dazzled by the greatness of this next blood raider-esque forage which will no doubt end as a dismal failure.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.24 23:45:00 - [293] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Mhmm, yes......... Well we're all VERY excited to see when this little PR stunt will take place, no doubt we will all be dazzled by the greatness of this next blood raider-esque forage which will no doubt end as a dismal failure. You know Kallanagh I am certain that you can answer this for me adequately. What would happen if the Sano Sabik met the Jove at Val'Atioth and win where the Empire has failed 100 years earlier? Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.07.25 09:34:00 - [294] Hypothacise less and act more, unless you wish to prove that your 'religion' is the joke that it is widely believed to be.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.25 09:51:00 - [295] The only jokes here is your posts. But you start to be known for the idiotice. You have to exceed in something after all. Illuminatti, ignore the brat. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.07.25 10:46:00 - [296] Then we shall see this campaign successfully enacted with the Jove in a few days then? Or are yu merely confirming that this is yet ANOTHER noise making exercise?
Angelice Minmatar Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.07.25 12:25:00 - [297] Hmmm hedgehog hunting... sounds fun and oh so virtuous! I wish you the best of luck in getting as many Loyal Amarr as possible to join your cause. We might then be able to hold a rational discourse with the remaining sane people. Angelice Dark & Light "To see the right and not to do it is cowardice." - Confucius
Xavier Fate Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.07.27 18:52:00 - [298] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Or are yu merely confirming that this is yet ANOTHER noise making exercise? Ironic. Not many people address themselves in their own statement. Yes - you are just making noise.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.07.27 18:59:00 - [299] Originally by: Xavier Fate Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Or are yu merely confirming that this is yet ANOTHER noise making exercise? Ironic. Not many people address themselves in their own statement. Yes - you are just making noise. Yet not QUITE on the scale of a mock war against an invisible foe, Gallente.
Xavier Fate Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.07.28 06:23:00 - [300] Edited by: Xavier Fate on 28/07/2007 06:23:36 Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Originally by: Xavier Fate Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Or are yu merely confirming that this is yet ANOTHER noise making exercise? Ironic. Not many people address themselves in their own statement. Yes - you are just making noise. Yet not QUITE on the scale of a mock war against an invisible foe, Gallente. It's Intaki, first of all, and second there is some real validity in the origianl statement if you care to come out and see it. Of course, I think it should, more appropriately have been addressed to every Empire, but so be it. The Jovians are known to be in the middle of a terrible plague. They are weaker now then they have ever been. The time to strike at them is obviously now. And more over, even if a total victory can not be achieved, reactivating a gate or two back into our space would only make future incursions easier. Also, the Jovian technologies could be taken, analyzed, and with any luck, reproduced even with a small victory over a portion of a single system. I don't see a lose in this. I do see a lot of people "We should just wait them out. Edventually the Jovians will all die off and go away." Sadly, this is not at all likely. They will edventually cure their plague... and come back - stronger then ever before.
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.07.28 08:39:00 - [301] Originally by: Xavier Fate The Jovians are known to be in the middle of a terrible plague. They are weaker now then they have ever been. The time to strike at them is obviously now. And more over, even if a total victory can not be achieved, reactivating a gate or two back into our space would only make future incursions easier. Also, the Jovian technologies could be taken, analyzed, and with any luck, reproduced even with a small victory over a portion of a single system. I don't see a lose in this. I do see a lot of people "We should just wait them out. Edventually the Jovians will all die off and go away." Sadly, this is not at all likely. They will edventually cure their plague... and come back - stronger then ever before. I really should apologise for calling you a Gallente, call it momentary confusion as you all seem to look the same to me. Nevermind, I suppose your heritage indicates that you may be a reasonable conversationalist. When was the last time you saw a Jovian envoy? The only traces that have been encountered in years have been the odd mad Jove commander or bits of them covering the universe after accidents. Not exactly what I would deem to be an imminent threat or any major caue for concern. If the cursed filth ever manage to dig themselves out of the madness that no doubt they have wrought upon themselves then we shall deal with them as necessary. However, they are not here.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:04:00 - [302] Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen When was the last time you saw a Jovian envoy? The only traces that have been encountered in years have been the odd mad Jove commander or bits of them covering the universe after accidents. Not exactly what I would deem to be an imminent threat or any major cause for concern. If the cursed filth ever manage to dig themselves out of the madness that no doubt they have wrought upon themselves then we shall deal with them as necessary. Then you are a fool to expect otherwise from the Jove. You do not wait with a foe such as this. You do not allow them crawl up from behind their rock and strike again. If you enemy is down you pounce on him, destroying him utterly. This is a basic lesson in how to "exploit their weakness" taught in most war academies. Did you fall asleep in class? The first battle of Val'Atioth should have been the wake up call the Empire needed to spur its own technological advances and then press its attack, redeeming its lost honor. Now it is up to the Sani Sabik, to complete the Empire's failure and usher in a new era. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:10:00 - [303] Quote: If you enemy is down you pounce on him, destroying him utterly. This is a basic lesson in how to "exploit their weakness" taught in most war academies. Did you fall asleep in class? So we've heard you say.... So how is it going? When are you going to move from the declaration of intent to destroy them to actually doing it? Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.28 22:17:00 - [304] Originally by: Archbishop Quote: If you enemy is down you pounce on him, destroying him utterly. This is a basic lesson in how to "exploit their weakness" taught in most war academies. Did you fall asleep in class? So we've heard you say.... So how is it going? When are you going to move from the declaration of intent to destroy them to actually doing it? Archbishop Join us and find out. Oh that's right you're not an Amarr. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.

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