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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:08:00 -
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Name: xeno calligan (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.3
Corporation: Jericho Fraction
Ship Type: Moa
Weapon Type: 250mm Compressed Coil Gun I
SO HERE I AM AFK SITTING OUTSIDE A STATION AND UP COMES A JERICHO FRACTION MOA. I AM IN OTHER ROOM AND HEAR A LOUD BOOM AND I WONDER WHAT COULD THAT BE? I GO TO COMPUTER AND MY KESTREL IS ENGLUFED IN FLAMES AND HAS BEEN DESTROYED!!!
ANYWAYS IT APPEARS THAT m0o and THE JERICHO FRACTION ARE NOT ACTUALLY AT WAR SO GUESS WHAT HAPPEND TO OUR GOOD FRIEND XENO CALLIGAN?
NOW FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE.
ROFLLMAOMGWTFBBQ
THANK YOU FOR THE C5-L, CRUISE MISSLES, SHIELD HARDENERS, AND COMPRESSED RAILGUNS SIR I HOPE IT WAS WORTH GANKING MY KESTREL WITH A 1MN MICROWARPDRIVE.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:11:00 -
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yeah, but....
you were still pwned by Jerico 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:13:00 -
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Id prob have done the same thing matey.
If i see a rat ouside a station, ill give it a go, maybe not in a MOA, but worth a laugh if ur tanked in a BS.
Well done Xeno, maybe u will get him next time, grrrrr:).
what u doin in a kesterl AFK in space anyways Jim?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 14/01/2004 14:20:17
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yeah, but....
you were still pwned by Jerico
SURE WAS. I DO BELIEVE I CAN PURCHASE A SMALL FLEET OF KESTRELS WITH THE LOOT FROM THIS kind persons MOA THOUGH!!!
it never hurts to be a bit friendlier -Eris Discordia
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:18:00 -
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Id prob have done the same thing matey.
If i see a rat ouside a station, ill give it a go, maybe not in a MOA, but worth a laugh if ur tanked in a BS.
Well done Xeno, maybe u will get him next time, grrrrr:).
what u doin in a kesterl AFK in space anyways Jim?
I was doing my morning AFK agent missions of course! Agent missions are so boring I tend to not be at my computer when I do them. :(
I don't really think it was smart to lose a Moa, Medium C5-L, 2 Compressed Coil Guns, a Ditrothermal Shield Hardener, and cruise missles, to gank a Kestrel with a 1mn microwarp on it. :)
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:18:00 -
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 another one and in the same day
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:21:00 -
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maybe not jim, but the 30seconds was prob a blast matey.
I think, he may have been able to kill ur ship and pod, with 1 volley of missiles and guns, and have a reasonable chance of getting away from the guns, it was deff worth the try:).
Like i say, id have done the same ..
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: xeno calligan on 14/01/2004 14:30:14
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I was doing my morning AFK agent missions of course! Agent missions are so boring I tend to not be at my computer when I do them. :(
I don't really think it was smart to lose a Moa, Medium C5-L, 2 Compressed Coil Guns, a Ditrothermal Shield Hardener, and cruise missles, to gank a Kestrel with a 1mn microwarp on it. :)
Hehe, perhaps not, but I figured there weren't too many chances for finding an afk Mr. Raynor in a vunerable Kestrel, so I'd rather jump at the chance even if it meant my MOA. Isk isn't everything to me. Naturally it would have been better with a different ship, but that was all I had at the time, unfortunately.
I'll be looking forward to your fleet of afk Kestrels, Jim
Cheers.
Jericho fraction: adding a bit of spice to your agent missions
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:28:00 -
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I was doing my morning AFK agent missions of course! Agent missions are so boring I tend to not be at my computer when I do them. :(
I don't really think it was smart to lose a Moa, Medium C5-L, 2 Compressed Coil Guns, a Ditrothermal Shield Hardener, and cruise missles, to gank a Kestrel with a 1mn microwarp on it. :)
Hehe, perhaps not, but I figured there weren't too many chances for finding an afk Mr. Raynor in a vunerable Kestrel, so I'd rather jump at the chance even if it meant my MOA. Isk isn't everything to me. Naturally it would have been better with a different ship, but that was all I had at the time, unfortunately.
I'll be looking forward to your fleet of afk Kestrels, Jim ;)
Cheers.
Jericho faction: adding a bit of spice to your agent missions :D
Want to buy your stuff back?
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tauz0r
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:29:00 -
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no one cares
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:31:00 -
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For more blowing and podding of Jim Raynor, please seek around the region of Irjunnen, Sirppala etc. 
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:32:00 -
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For more blowing and podding of Jim Raynor, please seek around the region of Irjunnen, Sirppala etc.
mmm blowing jim raynor, you up to the task big guy?
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 14/01/2004 14:20:17
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yeah, but....
you were still pwned by Jerico
SURE WAS. I DO BELIEVE I CAN PURCHASE A SMALL FLEET OF KESTRELS WITH THE LOOT FROM THIS kind persons MOA THOUGH!!!
it never hurts to be a bit friendlier -Eris Discordia
In your very .sig, in fact...
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:36:00 -
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For more blowing and podding of Jim Raynor, please seek around the region of Irjunnen, Sirppala etc.
mmm blowing jim raynor, you up to the task big guy?
For what, blowing your kestrel up in my tempest and get pwned by concord. Nah... Not worth the security hit.
But i bet there are people at war with m0o. 
Mister Raynor, how does it feel to know your getting ganked? 
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:38:00 -
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Want to buy your stuff back?
^^ and here we see the only way that our moo friend ever has of making any isk ever again ..
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:39:00 -
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I don't really think it was smart...
Required a lot of skill to gank an afk frigate? Nope. Smart? Maybe not. Fun? Probably! Worth doing? Definitely!!!
Nice one Xeno :-)
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:41:00 -
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and why r u using CAPS? a bit mad maybe? annoyed?
"We brake for nobody"
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:44:00 -
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and why r u using CAPS? a bit mad maybe? annoyed?
He's prolly mad cuz his implants who are gone now, cuz he bought them to make up the lost few weeks that he had his account deactivated.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:44:00 -
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and why r u using CAPS? a bit mad maybe? annoyed?
the loss of a 100k kestrel fills my body with anger to the very core indeed
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 14:46:00 -
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and why r u using CAPS? a bit mad maybe? annoyed?
He's prolly mad cuz his implants who are gone now, cuz he bought them to make up the lost few weeks that he had his account deactivated.
sorry, wasn't podded. why would I be angry? I lost a 100k frigate and gained like 10 million in loot?
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.14 15:01:00 -
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Wow, Jim got wtfpwned by Jericho, jim is teh nublar, xeno is teh l33t player now. Jim end yourself kthxbye.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.14 15:05:00 -
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Wow, Jim got wtfpwned by Jericho, jim is teh nublar, xeno is teh l33t player now. Jim end yourself kthxbye.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 15:35:00 -
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Hehe,
Xeno, you rock mate.
Jim, this thread is the perfect example of how NOT to look cool.
Not that you'll care of course, you're too cool for that.
BTW, I would have done the same thing as Xeno (and have done in the past). It's fun taking risks but that's something most pirates don't know about.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:00:00 -
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Jimmy, thats Empire Space.
Normally you need to lock someone to find an idiot ,weho opens fire on you and you can get the loot. See, you found one without doing anything
Looks like Jericho went piracy. Good move, but they need to learn also profit out of their new work...
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Kurvitsa
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:00:00 -
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What kind of criminals would attack in a 0.5 system? OMG!!
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:09:00 -
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ROFLMAO, Jimbooray was so pwned
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:11:00 -
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When I grow up I wanna be pwned like that too! 10 mil can't hurt
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:13:00 -
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BTW, I would have done the same thing as Xeno (and have done in the past).
Seems rather pointless, but if you wanna give us yr stuff I'm not complaining.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:33:00 -
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BTW, I would have done the same thing as Xeno (and have done in the past).
Seems rather pointless, but if you wanna give us yr stuff I'm not complaining.
I quote my earlier post for you...
"It's fun taking risks but that's something most pirates don't know about."
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:40:00 -
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If it was me in the Moa, and me attacking a Jericho kestrel, and losing ~15 million isk in ship and modules just to kill a 100k isk frigate, you'd all be like OMFG JIM TEH NOOB.
But if someone does it to me, and I get all his crap, which I did, while losing nothing, I'm the noob? HAHAHHAHAhaa k.
I understand you guys all hate m0o n stuff, but puh-leez.
Let me put it in simple terms:
Jericho guy stupid
Me lucky and 10 million isk richer
Yes, I was very much pwned indeed.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:56:00 -
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fun=good...
PPl seem to forget its a game, give it a go, if u lose, its no biggy..
If he podded u jim, im sure u wouldnt have posted, all it takes is 1 cruise missile, and no more pod.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:03:00 -
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fun=good...
PPl seem to forget its a game, give it a go, if u lose, its no biggy..
If he podded u jim, im sure u wouldnt have posted, all it takes is 1 cruise missile, and no more pod.
Who cares if you get podded? I certainly don't.
Last time it happened I tried to take out a Caracal and an Apoc with a Rifter (with the assistance of some sentry guns). Good times.
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: ReForMatt on 14/01/2004 17:06:58
edit I had to remove my flame :P
DB your post rocks!
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:05:00 -
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BTW, I would have done the same thing as Xeno (and have done in the past).
Seems rather pointless, but if you wanna give us yr stuff I'm not complaining.
I quote my earlier post for you...
"It's fun taking risks but that's something most pirates don't know about."
dbp
Yr post was a half-assed troll, I'll adress it as I wish.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:35:00 -
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Good stuff Jim
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:41:00 -
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I know Xeno. I can definitely say that stupid is not one word I would associate with him.
more like:
Jericho guy pirate hater and doesnt give a monkey's about money but he still blew up your ship and almost podded a much hated pirate
Jimlucky and 10 million isk richer
Pooti: I wasn't trolling, just stating my opinion.
Trolling would have been coming in and saying stfu n00b l4me3r.
Thx for your opinion though.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:43:00 -
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Well done Xeno!
Lets face it boys and girls, sometimes you just have to spit in the eye of the tyrant. Isk and stuff and ships, hell, what do they matter in the long-run? Its about fun and games and having a laugh sometimes.
DB has it right on the nail.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:46:00 -
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oh shut up jade, if Jim was podded then its a fair trade.
Stop trying to cover up for the fact your members share the combat skills with the common garden potato (DOWN PADDYMAN DOWWWWWNN BOY!)
It's a simple question of isk, jim lost kestrel, your idiot lost a cruiser and far more valuable equipment.
No wonder u get owned everywhere if you can't understand basic economics.
Also I have decided to rename your corp so that it is better suited to your role in the eve world.
Jericho Fiction
See? Good ain't it, since everything u do ever is purely fiction.
Stav
PS: Its ok you can have the name for free btw.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:47:00 -
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How about;
Jericho guy lost 10mil
Jim got 10mil
In this situation Jim wins, Jericho guy loses (a habit among the Jericho).
And even if you disagree with me, I still respect your opinion because you are a human as well and I am a democratic person that really cares for you, and all the rest of humanity because of this one simple reason.
Dont you think i'd make the perfect president for the CFS? I think i do. If you disagree with me I might pod you though, this topic is not open to discussion.
Wow red is pretty cool, I think i'll use if from now on!
Be smart, stay alive, vote Viceroy!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/01/2004 17:57:34
Glad you see fit to continue your tradition of positive posting Stavros.
You wake up from your weekend flamefest with a return to form.
Quote:
"Flame flame, personal insult, flame, smack, flame, spurious economics, flame, smack, smack, flame."
- takes a bow .... stavros.
Sheesh, no wonder you guys are notorious ... notorious for bad-tempered constipation which makes you unable to figure out exactly what obstruction you have stuck up your collective rear end.
Its a game m'dear,
mOo are supposed to be this terribly-feared super uber corp that "pwn" everyone.
Hence its nice to spit in your eye!
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:54:00 -
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Stop trying to cover up for the fact your members share the combat skills with the common garden potato (DOWN PADDYMAN DOWWWWWNN BOY!)
Stavros: please do not pass judgement on people you know nothing about.
There's far too much of this crap in this game and its ******* dull.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:57:00 -
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please keep the replies clean and friendly
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:58:00 -
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jim pwned xeno...
If for one second I thought that anyone in Jericho faction had the concious gumption to sacrfice themselves in the name of killing a pirate, i'd believe u.
However you and I know full well that your member (TEE HEE) saw a m0o and assumed it would be completely fine to blast him in empire space because he was an ebil pirate.
He did not engage in a noble sacrifice, he did not 'take one for the team' and he did not know what was going to happen to him.
Spin it jericho fiction!
Stavros
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:01:00 -
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Stavros ... I'll pay you 10m to sit in a Kestral and be ganked by me.
How does that sound?
(gank-first, payment after obviously)
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:03:00 -
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jim pwned xeno...
If for one second I thought that anyone in Jericho faction had the concious gumption to sacrfice themselves in the name of killing a pirate, i'd believe u.
However you and I know full well that your member (TEE HEE) saw a m0o and assumed it would be completely fine to blast him in empire space because he was an ebil pirate.
He did not engage in a noble sacrifice, he did not 'take one for the team' and he did not know what was going to happen to him.
He died like the idiot that he is, probably moaning and whining on corp/teamspeak.
Spin it jericho fiction!
Stavros
What was the point of that post? All you've done is assume a load of things in an attempt to run somebody down. How dull.
out with the n0rty, in with the friendly -Eris Discordia
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/01/2004 18:09:49
And for the record Stavros ...
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If for one second I thought that anyone in Jericho faction had the concious gumption to sacrfice themselves in the name of killing a pirate, i'd believe u.
Okay since this statement is dependent on you actually having a conscious thought of your own in this regard, I can see where your understanding falls down.
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However you and I know full well that your member (TEE HEE) saw a m0o and assumed it would be completely fine to blast him in empire space because he was an ebil pirate.
Actually no, but hey, once more its pure misunderstanding and god complex on your part, but thats fine, pompous chaps make silly mistakes ... carry on by all means.
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He did not engage in a noble sacrifice,
No he did it for fun (hoping doubtless that he'd manage a pod and escape ... but hey, we all take risks)
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he did not 'take one for the team'
Obviously not, since he was on his own ... doh!
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and he did not know what was going to happen to him.
Oh I think he probably did. And since you don't know the guy you are being pretty silly and arrogant to make that assumption.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:07:00 -
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Its hard to be friendly Eris, when people talk such crap.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/01/2004 17:57:34
Hence its nice to spit in your eye!
I'm sorry, I'm just a bit bemused here.
You lost 10m worth of stuff.
Jim received 10m worth of stuff.
We're all laughing at you.
AFAIK our vision is still A-OK.
Do you guys really find that empowering?
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:13:00 -
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And the little piggy went weee weee weee all the way home.
You know for a corp that considers a 60million donation to a war fund to be a large amount, that means that a cruiser and all of that loot is going to be something of a nasty loss right?
Or was your member who complained about giving 60mil to nva defnese funds just lieing his ass off?
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:16:00 -
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*yawn*
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:17:00 -
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Yes Pooti, the history of civilisation is rife with stories of the little guy chucking rocks at the oppressor.
Sure, generally the well-armed troops of the tyrant will win.
But it really is the thought that counts.
Let me explain it this way;
mOo has a reputation of being terrifying, powerful, unbeatable and stupidly rich. You trade on that reputation. It protects you.
Jim left his kestral parked outside a station with the engine running in full knowledge that most people would be too terrified to run a key down the paintwork of a mOo limo.
Well Jericho Fraction might not be the best fighters or the richest industrialists or the cleverest plotters and intriguers in the Eve star cluster ... but hell, we can lob a rock at a tyrant and say whatever.
And thats the point.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:19:00 -
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That kinda makes me sad.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:20:00 -
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Hey Miso, wake me up if Stavros ever says anything will you?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:21:00 -
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except the limo costs 100K and the rock 10 mil.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:22:00 -
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10m could equip an ownage newbie fleet.
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Paddyman on 14/01/2004 18:27:48
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Stop trying to cover up for the fact your members share the combat skills with the common garden potato (DOWN PADDYMAN DOWWWWWNN BOY!)
WTF
Take that back, TAKE IT BACK NOWWWWWW!!!!!
Rofl
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:25:00 -
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I see the metaphysical arguement is going over the heads of the materialists in the audience. Whatever, it takes all sorts.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:26:00 -
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I think I'm gonna stop reading these boards. My IQ is taking one helluva hammering.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:28:00 -
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I see the metaphysical arguement is going over the heads of the materialists in the audience. Whatever, it takes all sorts.
Look, everyone knows you're just trying to save face, give it up.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:29:00 -
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But m'dear, if not for the contrast between the numpty and the sublime, how would you know?
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:34:00 -
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10mil? Whoopie! I'll give Xeno 10mil if he wants it. Heck Jim, for bringing such an entertaining thread to the forums - I'll even put a kestrel in escrow for you
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:35:00 -
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roofles...
Sorry Paddeh :D
Stavros
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:36:00 -
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Look, everyone knows you're just trying to save face, give it up.
Serious question here Pooti ... gameface off for a moment.
Do you really not understand what I am talking about? And do you really doubt that I would consider the gesture well worth 10m isk in pretend money?
Is mOo such a tight, highly-strung outfit that you never do anyhting for the hell of it? That you don't consider mythology and drama worth something more than simple isk?
I mean seriously, it should be pretty obvious to you that we don't play the same game you do.
As a corp JF has very different objectives.
You guys are hardcore combat players who play the system to the absolute limit and care only about winning and kills and money. Sure thats fine, its what floats your boat, and it provides an opforce for the decent fighters on the "good guy" side.
But are you really saying that you cannot conceive of another way to play the game?
That there is room for imagination, for mythologising political struggle, for the "R" word, and for simple play for its own pleasure?
I can't beleive you are that narrow minded.
I think its a all a tough-guy act.
PS. Can I hear from someone other than Stavros in reply to this please. (I am totally bored of what passes for language from that guy)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:38:00 -
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Wow red is pretty cool, I think i'll use if from now on!
ROFL THATS GREEN
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 14/01/2004 18:40:22
Look if he killed Jim and got out, thats fine.
Even if he podded him that would be more understandable.
HE KILLED A FRIGATE WORTH SUB 200k WITH A CRUISER COSTING AROUND 20 MILLION INCLUDING EQUIPMENT AND LOST IT ALL.
We at m0o do everything for a laugh, we are currently destroying yet another alliance, JUST for the mad ***** of it.
However what xeno did wasn't funny, it was idiotic and stupid and if someone in m0o had done it they would be recieving a sound drubbing from the rest of the corp members.
Cookie?
Stavros
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Maud Dib
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/01/2004 17:57:34
Hence its nice to spit in your eye!
I'm sorry, I'm just a bit bemused here.
You lost 10m worth of stuff.
Jim received 10m worth of stuff.
We're all laughing at you.
AFAIK our vision is still A-OK.
Do you guys really find that empowering?
Anybody who feels empowered or depressed because of anything that happens in a game is beyond help already. I think Xeno did it for fun. As long as he did it matters **** all what anybody else thinks.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 14/01/2004 18:46:02
I wasn't podded. His Moa was wtfpwned by Concord almost immediate. He attacked me infront of like the Caldari Navy, a Caldari Station full of sentry guns, he didn't use missles on me, he used 250mm compressed coil guns (which I now own a few of, thanks).
Anyways, If i had been podded, it might have been worth it but I wasn't so get over it.
I lost a 100k kestrel with a 1mn MWD, which is what, maybe 150k value?
He lost his Moa, his rare guns, his rare shield modules, and whatever other crap I looted off his cargo can.
He also got killed by the sentry guns a second time after getting into a new ship and trying to run away from my Raven, haha.
Anyways I found the whole situation very comical. If you think this guy somehow spit in the face of tyranny or something highly stupid like Jade says, well go for it.
If someone flips you the finger, and then a truck runs him over 3 seconds later, who wins and who loses? I do believe I am teh winnar.
Oh and if xeno wanted to attack me for fun, why did he do it in a ship loaded with semi-rare loot? Why not just get a cheap kestrel and lob 4 cruise missles at my AFK kestrel and end me?
I asked him why he did it and he said he saw me and lost his cool when he saw me. I didn't know I provoked such hate and anger sitting AFK in a Kestrel at a station, haha.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:45:00 -
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Wow red is pretty cool, I think i'll use if from now on!
ROFL THATS GREEN
No its not. Let me prove it;
[Jericho]
That isnt the point Jim. Red and Green are pretty relative if you stop looking at them in such a narrow minded materialistic way.
Only those who have been imprisoned by social paradigms and silly taboos think that you are right.
Its very simply really, you have to get the wide picture. But being a pirate, you cannot do that.
You just want to blow people up.
You cannot understand that there is a RP side of this game, where you sit and do nothing, but red is green.
Your point is not based on any solid terms if you look at it on metaphysical ground.
You say red is red.
You say green is green.
You are mistaken.
Green is red and red is green.
So m'dear, stop being such a big mouthed muppet and see the truth. You and your band of pirating scoundrels cannot reach to the understanding of these kinds of things, and shouldnt try to either.
Simply because red is green, and you cannot even understand that.
[/Jericho]
Yea? Owned k? Dont debate with me or i'll Jericho Fiction you.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:47:00 -
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However what xeno did wasn't funny, it was idiotic and stupid and if someone in m0o had done it they would be recieving a sound drubbing from the rest of the corp members.
Personally, I find what Xeno did hilarious.
The fact that you boys seem to be getting wound up because people think he did the right thing regardless of loses is even funnier.
(psst - jade, smaktalkers blow, i wanna argue with spvd again. At least they have irony on their side)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:47:00 -
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THANK YOU MONSSUER VICEROY FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:48:00 -
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So,
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Look if he killed Jim and got out, thats fine.
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Even if he podded him that would be more understandable.
Are you saying that Xeno had absolutely no chance of achieving either of those objectives? Surely all it would have taken was a couple of seconds earlier running, or one more cruise missile to do the job?
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However what xeno did wasn't funny, it was idiotic and stupid and if someone in m0o had done it they would be recieving a sound drubbing from the rest of the corp members.
And given that the objectives were achievable and he just got unlucky, where is your acclaim for a good old college try exactly?
You aren't making sense with the context of your own argument, and that leads me to believe that you haven't actually got anything much to say, beyond:
(in the voice of the simpson's fat-boy bully)
"Haa-Haa!"
In which case, interjection noted.
Do we need to hear any more from you?
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:53:00 -
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Jade Constantine!
You're corporate drone learned some of the game mechanics the hard way. Those things happens to people that are very new or very drunk. It's not something to dwell upon.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:54:00 -
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No he had no chance, he didn't think the gate guns would shoot him.
Besides sometimes its difficult to evade gate guns in a bship let alone a cruiser.
He had no chance to achieve either of his aims, IF indeed they were his aims, which I highly doubt.
Besides what he did, if he had had forewarning of the consequences, would've been a gamble and as such he lost the gamble, ergo he recieves the abuse that is due to him.
Now run along little piggies and organise a nice alliance for us, so when we are through with fountain we can come and play with you -_-
Oh riighht u can't because u got kicked out ROOFLES!
Stavros
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 14/01/2004 18:58:12
... *sighs* In before the lock, i guess.
What's, seriously, the point of 'tis thread?
* Jim made 10 mil in loot. Supposedly pocket change for m0o, so not worth bragging about.
* xeno lost a cruiser attacking a frigate. A silly tradeoff, but on amusement scale again hardly anything worth bragging about, when people lose not insured battleships every day doing equally insane things. (check Crime and Punishment for most fresh sample)
* that's supposedly a proof JF can't PvP. So what else is new? Thought that's well established fact, mentioned in 'tis section in particular over and over. :s
Really, is that slow week or something? Lack of any bigger success to brag about instead? :s
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:57:00 -
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reasonable debate + Stavros = flames
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Dracule
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Posted - 2004.01.14 18:58:00 -
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Are you saying that Xeno had absolutely no chance of achieving either of those objectives?
You can look at it this way.
HE TRIED AND FAILED AND SO HE HAD NO CHANCE.
Get over it, you are the forum muppet so do your self a favor and stop posting.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:00:00 -
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Serious question here Pooti ... gameface off for a moment.
Do you really not understand what I am talking about? And do you really doubt that I would consider the gesture well worth 10m isk in pretend money?
Of course I understand what you're talking about - I just don't agree with you! I don't see you (or your corp, or the common Eve player, etc.) gaining anything from this in any respect. (And not only re: ISK). If you feel that you have, well, fine. I can't argue against that.
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Is mOo such a tight, highly-strung outfit that you never do anyhting for the hell of it? That you don't consider mythology and drama worth something more than simple isk?
I think you know the answer to this. ISK means nothing to most of us. Still, material gains are often a good measuring stick. OK, a measuring stick seldom matters, but it's pretty damn irresistible :)
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I mean seriously, it should be pretty obvious to you that we don't play the same game you do.
As a corp JF has very different objectives.
You guys are hardcore combat players who play the system to the absolute limit and care only about winning and kills and money. Sure thats fine, its what floats your boat, and it provides an opforce for the decent fighters on the "good guy" side.
But are you really saying that you cannot conceive of another way to play the game?
That there is room for imagination, for mythologising political struggle, for the "R" word, and for simple play for its own pleasure?
I certainly don't speak for the corp here, but I (usually) like that people, uh, practice the "R" word. I like that the universe is so deep, that there's so much going on, and that I'm in a place to be a fairly significant part of it (and in a position where I can do so without even really, uh, well, you know!) Again - it's not that I don't understand you, it's that if I found myself in the same position as the Moa pilot I would be feeling more "Oh God, that was really stupid." and less "hehe! Stick it to the man!"
And I wasn't always a pirate, or even a combat pilot. You have FA to thank for that (and oh isn't that ever coming back to bite them on the ass!)
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I can't beleive you are that narrow minded.
I think its a all a tough-guy act.
Believe it or not, not everyone that goes around killing everything in sight is a jerk or has something to prove.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:01:00 -
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You can look at it this way.
HE TRIED AND FAILED AND SO HE HAD NO CHANCE.
Get over it, you are the forum muppet so do your self a favor and stop posting.
Oh look, another alty nooby flamer!
How original!
PS. I'll stop posting my civil-worded opinions and thoughts on the game when they pry my keyboard from my cold dead hands mr "Dracule". The hatred of people like you is something I find affirming and empowering. It convinces me that I have a point you see. And in comparison to the words you scrawl, it my writing gives me a lot of pleasure.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:04:00 -
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Ok here I have conlusive proof that xeno was NOT taking a gamble and that he infact thought he would be able to kill Jim without the guns firing on him and that he has NO knowledge of how station guns and security ratings in general work.
After he shot jims kestrel and his moa had been blown up, he IMMDIATELY undocked again and IMMDIATELY was killed again by the sentry guns.
WHY would he do this if he had the knowledge about the sentry guns neccessary to realise that shooting jim's kestrel was a gamble?
The only logical, reasonable answer is that he did NOT infact know how the guns worked and he thought, ergo he was NOT in a position to consider his actions a gamble.
Sorry jade, your guy is a noob not a risk taker.
Stav
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:07:00 -
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Sorry jade, your guy is a noob not a risk taker.
Stav
From the first page, xeno himself argues the point (as if he mystically knew the question would come up 3 pages on ... oooOOOooooo)
"I figured there weren't too many chances for finding an afk Mr. Raynor in a vunerable Kestrel, so I'd rather jump at the chance even if it meant my MOA. - Xeno Calligan, Jericho Fraction"
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:07:00 -
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However what xeno did wasn't funny, it was idiotic and stupid and if someone in m0o had done it they would be recieving a sound drubbing from the rest of the corp members.
Personally, I find what Xeno did hilarious.
The fact that you boys seem to be getting wound up because people think he did the right thing regardless of loses is even funnier.
(psst - jade, smaktalkers blow, i wanna argue with spvd again. At least they have irony on their side)
dbp
For me I think it's more anger at a lack of rules governing everything. I want the same situation to always receive the same response regardless of the parties involved. If that had been myself, or Stavros or Jim in the Moa, and like Homo in the Kestrel, we would never hear the end of it.
And I know that's stupid, but I really don't care.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:09:00 -
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Whatever else Pooti, thank you for the civil response. I appreciate that.
Love and peace
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:10:00 -
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But on the other hand why would I turn to pirating and join a corp like m0o if I didn't want everyone to hate me? Oh dear!
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:11:00 -
[84]
LOL, I missed that.
/emote bangs her head.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:12:00 -
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Well i didn't thinks this thread would become a huge stupid flamefest, I thought the whole thing was funny and maybe xeno will be a little wiser about who he tries to kill when in empire space.
He was a good sport about it and admitted it was dumb/funny and really it's just a game so in the grand scheme of life it really doesn't mean anything.
I just thought it was funny, there's nothing to brag about. If people want to suicide their ships in empire under my nose and hand me free loot, hey, I'm all for it.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:18:00 -
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Quote:
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However what xeno did wasn't funny, it was idiotic and stupid and if someone in m0o had done it they would be recieving a sound drubbing from the rest of the corp members.
Personally, I find what Xeno did hilarious.
The fact that you boys seem to be getting wound up because people think he did the right thing regardless of loses is even funnier.
(psst - jade, smaktalkers blow, i wanna argue with spvd again. At least they have irony on their side)
dbp
For me I think it's more anger at a lack of rules governing everything. I want the same situation to always receive the same response regardless of the parties involved. If that had been myself, or Stavros or Jim in the Moa, and like Homo in the Kestrel, we would never hear the end of it.
And I know that's stupid, but I really don't care.
It's not really stupid but I don't see why you care. I mean for the most part you guys have worked hard at getting people not to like you. Since most of them don't like you they aren't going to treat you by the same standards. Is that fair? Probably not but since when did fair have anything to do with EVE?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:19:00 -
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"I just thought it was funny, there's nothing to brag about. If people want to suicide their ships in empire under my nose and hand me free loot, hey, I'm all for it."
The thread title all in caps like that cracks me up, tbh.
Must be the absurdity of it or something. ;s
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Slagg
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:19:00 -
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Joshua Calvert! Tell us all about using Micro Warp Drives, especially multiple Micro Warp Drives.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:19:00 -
[89]
The word truth is not part of my administration thank you very much.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Eris Discordia on 14/01/2004 19:47:29
keep it friendly, clean and on-topic
if you have any questions about moderation, or want to point something out, please mail us at [email protected]
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Chuck D
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:28:00 -
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Which station was it?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.14 19:35:00 -
[92]
Where'd my post go?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:18:00 -
[93]
Every post lately seems to turn into a personal attack flame fest.
where is the love
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:38:00 -
[94]
Quote:
Every post lately seems to turn into a personal attack flame fest.
where is the love
Darthy honey, you know you'll always get plenty of love from me.
/emotegrabs a quick look up solo's kilt
wOOf wOOf big boy!
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:17:00 -
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is entertainment
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Ackath
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:21:00 -
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I think Jim got pwned.
And by coming to the boards i think he got double pwned.
Not the 1 and 0 Jim Raynor flying a Kestrel got pwned (he actually won), but Jim Raynor the ' image' of the fameous pvper.
From now on Jim is only the pirate that got pwned by Xeno of Jericho Faction...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.14 21:23:00 -
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I think Jim got pwned.
And by coming to the boards i think he got double pwned.
Not the 1 and 0 Jim Raynor flying a Kestrel got pwned (he actually won), but Jim Raynor the ' image' of the fameous pvper.
From now on Jim is only the pirate that got pwned by Xeno of Jericho Faction...
Luckily my image as a super crazy sex machine lives on however.
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2004.01.14 22:01:00 -
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Luckily my image as a super crazy sex machine lives on however.
Great whats your phone number, 0055 somthing or other? I heard your a great sex machine and that you are cheap. I have a dollar can you give change
I think the point is that is trying to be argued is that if you had a choice to lose everything you have (even though its insured) and blast away an enemy for that satisfaction that you can. You would do it.
I have seen it heaps of times where people say "F#@^k it, lets go down dieing but at least we take them out with us". Anyways, ships lost and loot gathered, its just another day in EVE. I am indifferent to all this as I love both sides. Well SI more than M0o but thats just me
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.14 22:03:00 -
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I think Jim got pwned.
And by coming to the boards i think he got double pwned.
Not the 1 and 0 Jim Raynor flying a Kestrel got pwned (he actually won), but Jim Raynor the ' image' of the fameous pvper.
From now on Jim is only the pirate that got pwned by Xeno of Jericho Faction...
Luckily my image as a super crazy sex machine lives on however.
That might get you even more Jericho attention
This is not a hijack
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2004.01.15 04:49:00 -
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Well i didn't thinks this thread would become a huge stupid flamefest, I thought the whole thing was funny and maybe xeno will be a little wiser about who he tries to kill when in empire space.
He was a good sport about it and admitted it was dumb/funny and really it's just a game so in the grand scheme of life it really doesn't mean anything.
I just thought it was funny, there's nothing to brag about. If people want to suicide their ships in empire under my nose and hand me free loot, hey, I'm all for it.
There I am, in irjunen, Mr. Raynor himself wearing a big "kick me I'm afk" sign. What to do?- Ignore him and resume my agent mission or
- Say "to hell with it" and attempt to induce some paranoia in Jim on his future agent missions?
It wasn't a choise, really. No other combat ships were available before Jim probably would have docked so it was the MOA or nothing -- equiped as an agent kill mission ship with only 2 m12 launchers. So either I would take my chances outside sentry range with 2 m12s and hope Jim didn't dock before I could pod him, or I could sacrifice my MOA to get a quick kill. I felt impulsive, though I knew my MOA most likely would be toast. I doubt even the noobs are nooblar enough not to realize that. Dumb? Perhaps. Worth it? Hell yes!
Cost of MOA: 7.45m
Value of lost loot: ~10m
Making Jim write in all caps on the forum and make him think twice about doing agent missions afk: priceless.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.15 05:20:00 -
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"I doubt even the noobs are nooblar enough not to realize that."
... You could be surprised... :s
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.15 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 15/01/2004 06:30:59
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For me I think it's more anger at a lack of rules governing everything. I want the same situation to always receive the same response regardless of the parties involved. If that had been myself, or Stavros or Jim in the Moa, and like Homo in the Kestrel, we would never hear the end of it.
And I know that's stupid, but I really don't care.
It's not really stupid but I don't see why you care. I mean for the most part you guys have worked hard at getting people not to like you. Since most of them don't like you they aren't going to treat you by the same standards. Is that fair? Probably not but since when did fair have anything to do with EVE?
I think it has to do with the level of intensity. No, Stavros or Lord Zap or Pooti would never hear the end of it if they took a shot at Homo Erectus afk in a Kestrel. But it wouldn't be because they made a poor economic choice. Most people around here would do it because...dunno, they loathe them as people and not characters.
And trading 20m worth of equipment for the satisfaction of destroying just the ship isn't an equitable trade to me either. For the pod and corpse of someone like WhiteDwarf? Hope nobody nabs my counterbalanced while I'm sitting out the sentry hate. To cover someone trying to escape another attacker? If I said I'd cover them, yeah. For owning just the Kestrel? Err...if a Breacher or a Kestrel wasn't availible to buy nearby, no. No point shooting myself in the foot and having to waste time replacing the equipment. Nobody's ship is worth the aggravation of the Trade channel
This thread hurt my brain. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Fausto
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Posted - 2004.01.15 09:12:00 -
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Not that it's important but I have to ask: Why are you doing missions Jim? I remember you people bragging about kills and looting... But this is pathetic... Doing missions, getting pwned and bragging about it?!? Man, what is next? Darth Solo stealing ore from pirates mining Veldspar in Yulai?!?
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Lliad
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Posted - 2004.01.15 09:26:00 -
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. So either I would take my chances outside sentry range with 2 m12s and hope Jim didn't dock before I could pod him,
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WORX
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Posted - 2004.01.15 09:29:00 -
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Jade - How about getting off the forums, logging into EVE and playing the game for once, try it, you might like it!
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.15 09:45:00 -
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Not that it's important but I have to ask: Why are you doing missions Jim? I remember you people bragging about kills and looting... But this is pathetic... Doing missions, getting pwned and bragging about it?!? Man, what is next? Darth Solo stealing ore from pirates mining Veldspar in Yulai?!?
Dude, I used to steal ore too, lots of m0o used to do that for fun with alts. Stealing peoples ore was like the most funniest thing to do in Eve.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2004.01.15 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Fausto on 15/01/2004 10:28:37
Yeah, but you still haven't answered my question: Why is a pirate doing missions? Aren't you giving all your corpmates a bad name? I thought only carebears (like me) were doing missions. Are you turning soft?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.15 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Fausto on 15/01/2004 10:28:37
Yeah, but you still haven't answered my question: Why is a pirate doing missions? Aren't you giving all your corpmates a bad name? I thought only carebears (like me) were doing missions. Are you turning soft?
Cause I want access to tech2 without paying through the nose for it?
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.15 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Fausto on 15/01/2004 10:28:37
Yeah, but you still haven't answered my question: Why is a pirate doing missions? Aren't you giving all your corpmates a bad name? I thought only carebears (like me) were doing missions. Are you turning soft?
Just one part of our plan of world domination
Spawn of the Devil
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.01.15 11:08:00 -
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Why every thread Jade is in, is an argument?
She winds people up, you guys take the bait everytime.
And to the point of the matter:
If he had podded Jim, then would idd be a worth while action, and celebrated in a true style, irrelevant of the cost, but to just lose a 12 million cruiser, for the sake of a kestrel, is noobish.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.15 12:41:00 -
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Jade - How about getting off the forums, logging into EVE and playing the game for once, try it, you might like it!
Whatever makes you think that posting on the forums and playing the game are two different pastimes. I don't know about you, but Eve sometimes has some deadtime to fill (travelling travelling) and posting on the forums fills it.
End of the day, I do what i like, you can read or not, its up to you.
And I posted here what I thought. And like I said earlier. I'm never going to change the way I post because of presure from flamers and such. Its just not the way I'm wired.
PS
Oh and Eddz, call it winding them up, whatever, if you read the majority of the things I write you will find I usually speak an opinion and then defend that opinion with reasonable argument and respectful language. Sure, sometimes things get heated, nobody is perfect, but by the same measure everyone has a right to speak, and nobody should be shouted down by the mob.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.01.15 13:13:00 -
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For me I think it's more anger at a lack of rules governing everything. I want the same situation to always receive the same response regardless of the parties involved. If that had been myself, or Stavros or Jim in the Moa, and like Homo in the Kestrel, we would never hear the end of it.
And I know that's stupid, but I really don't care.
It's not really stupid but I don't see why you care. I mean for the most part you guys have worked hard at getting people not to like you. Since most of them don't like you they aren't going to treat you by the same standards. Is that fair? Probably not but since when did fair have anything to do with EVE?
I think it has to do with the level of intensity. No, Stavros or Lord Zap or Pooti would never hear the end of it if they took a shot at Homo Erectus afk in a Kestrel. But it wouldn't be because they made a poor economic choice. Most people around here would do it because...dunno, they loathe them as people and not characters.
And trading 20m worth of equipment for the satisfaction of destroying just the ship isn't an equitable trade to me either. For the pod and corpse of someone like WhiteDwarf? Hope nobody nabs my counterbalanced while I'm sitting out the sentry hate. To cover someone trying to escape another attacker? If I said I'd cover them, yeah. For owning just the Kestrel? Err...if a Breacher or a Kestrel wasn't availible to buy nearby, no. No point shooting myself in the foot and having to waste time replacing the equipment. Nobody's ship is worth the aggravation of the Trade channel
This thread hurt my brain.
Yep nobody's ship is worth the trade channel. Is it still there? I wouldn't have done it either but I can see why somebody would. What I really can't see is why an afk frigate getting ganked and Concord owning somebody got six pages.
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Oh and Eddz, call it winding them up, whatever, if you read the majority of the things I write you will find I usually speak an opinion and then defend that opinion with reasonable argument and respectful language. Sure, sometimes things get heated, nobody is perfect, but by the same measure everyone has a right to speak, and nobody should be shouted down by the mob.
Jade.
Every thread I have seen you in, every comment I have seen you make in the last fe wmonths, has enticed flamatory response.
you enjoy a battle of words, if everyone just agreed with you, I am guessing your posting would be a lot more irregular.
You enjoy to argue, you initial response to all suggestion, is an attempt to reject the notion, for a notion of yourr own that is better.
In real life, I am expecting you are not too far dissimilar to your forum persona. You a person who likes it done thier way, and I expect has a gifr for findind creative solutions to problems, I know this because I am one in the same. The difference being, I am yet to make sufficient haters, to be involved in controversy at every turn
FE and the like, should just stop biting back, because even when they are right, you still aren't going to back down and agree.
Everyone has the right to get their rocks off, each ot their own tbf.
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Every thread I have seen you in, every comment I have seen you make in the last fe wmonths, has enticed flamatory response.
That is more or less true, (even from our old "side" eh, lol). I think some element is the desire to shout down someone else you feel superior too ... ie, the pvp pirate chaps feel superior to me because they fight and I mostly don't, hence its an insult to their manhood that I should have public opinions at all. (I should clearly be in the kitchen or something).
The truth of course is that the feeling of "superiority" is always foolish, and it always leads you astray. Much better to assume everyone is capable of surprising you and upsetting the applecart of assumptions and expectations.
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you enjoy a battle of words, if everyone just agreed with you, I am guessing your posting would be a lot more irregular.
Yeah thats it exactly. And the proof of it is take a look for threads that I start. There honestly aren't very many of them. Aside from the various PR memos I have done for alliances and such, I rairly start threads.
But I do consider that once someone does start a thread then its fair game for comment. (Exception being recruitment posts which it would be a bit rude to pick to pieces and fight in),
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You enjoy to argue, you initial response to all suggestion, is an attempt to reject the notion, for a notion of yourr own that is better.
Not all suggestion. If you pay attention you'll see that some posters on these boards never get questioned by me. I'm neither the smartest nor the best at debating here. But I do pick debates I care about and that can be won. You are fooling yourself if you believe that my response to everyone is the same.
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In real life, I am expecting you are not too far dissimilar to your forum persona. You a person who likes it done thier way, and I expect has a gifr for findind creative solutions to problems,
There are similarities but very important differences too. Though I know ex nva people are going to have trouble with this one, I do promise you that the persona of "jade" i roleplay is roleplay in some vital interactive dynamics. Jade is a creature of the backstory i designed, and an experiment in expressing social and mimetic conditioning. - it is a fictional persona.
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I know this because I am one in the same. The difference being, I am yet to make sufficient haters, to be involved in controversy at every turn
I think (and i say this honestly) that most of the people who have decided they "hate" me for game play have simply got confused at the ic/occ interacts in the game world, or just just got frustrated at not being able to nail me with discussion. (doubtless some will appear and say "nah you just write too much" ... but lets face it, thats just an excuse that fools no-one. The truth is something else.
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FE and the like, should just stop biting back, because even when they are right, you still aren't going to back down and agree.
Not true. If they are right thats an entirely different matter. But proving that they are right, thats the thing. Interesting. Since we were booted I have had a lot of good conversations with FE people and they have surprised me by being a lot more open-minded and sporting then I gave them credit for. The "jade hate" was to a large extent a tactic to divide the nva I think. And lets face it, at the time it worked. Lots of nva peeps were convinced that the PR was killing us not the battleships. My hat is off to FE for clever play in that regard. And its nice to see that now I am clear of that debate that civilised interactions can come back.
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Everyone has the right to get their rocks off, each ot their own tbf.
Of course. Only thing I'll violently contest is the right to prevent someone else's decently expressed opinion. Little tyrants that want to control the forums need to grow up, and learn that its called a "forum" because everyone gets to talk.
Anyhow, love and peace m'dear, and be well
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I agree with everything you have said, and see your point in all of it, but I do not beleive that your forum persona is so different to your real life one. I have spent 5 years studying Psychology and Modern Therapy, and the seperation of personality, for the event of role play, is virtually impossible unless you are border line/diagnosed Schizophrenic.
Jade must in fact represent a lot of who you are as a person, or the only other option, theorised in todays most modern of cultural opinion is she is very very similar to someone who is extremely close to you, otherwise empathy and emotion, are easily spotted as fake to the watching community, and would be impossible for any sane person to mimic with accuracy over a long period of time.
That said, the calm posterior of Jade, has been belied a few times of recent, in private logs. Proving it is impossible for anyone to remain in rational thought 100% of the time, irrelevant of objective and desire.
Whilst it is a good thing that you are no longer in the "NVA", your presence in the game, and on these forums, is a welcome and refeshing one. Our recent situation, doesnt change that. Anyone pwning FE on here, or in game, is a welcome sight
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This forum needs a Jade filter.
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Jade Constantine
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It has one Jim, use the advanced search engine someone made, select "molly filter" and bobs your mothers brother. No more Jade.
Have a nice life Jim!
Byeeeeeee!
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Eddz,
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I agree with everything you have said, and see your point in all of it, but I do not beleive that your forum persona is so different to your real life one. I have spent 5 years studying Psychology and Modern Therapy, and the seperation of personality, for the event of role play, is virtually impossible unless you are border line/diagnosed Schizophrenic.
What happens generally, is that some aspects of the personality are always in place. In my case; competitive urges, respect for debating skill, respect for the "game-face" reserve that clever operators are able to project. I love language, creativity, and vision. And I am a helpless romantic and always choose to mythologise struggle and contest in the cause of presenting attractive storytelling. So yep, there is a helluva lot of "me" in "jade". But what changes is when you create a fictional basis of the socialisation of a character. And then the personal traits get reflected through refracting mirrors of alternate reality and divergent personal development.
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Jade must in fact represent a lot of who you are as a person, or the only other option, theorised in todays most modern of cultural opinion is she is very very similar to someone who is extremely close to you,
Interesting conjecture. In this case Jade is closest to a fictional character I used from outside the setting to transplant into the scifi paradigm of the Eve universe. (you have me wracking my brains now though to think if i have unconsciously projected the attributes of friends or past lovers there.)
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otherwise empathy and emotion, are easily spotted as fake to the watching community, and would be impossible for any sane person to mimic with accuracy over a long period of time.
That I do understand, and its fair to say that a number of Jade's kinks are my kinks (emotionally speaking) - I guess, I'm back to saying that its all nurture as opposed to nature in terms of fictional development, or to put it another way. The essential seed of the character is formed by the environment I project for the backstory from a foundation of one's own personality. So I guess you're right ;)
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That said, the calm posterior of Jade, has been belied a few times of recent, in private logs. Proving it is impossible for anyone to remain in rational thought 100% of the time, irrelevant of objective and desire.
Hell yes Eddz, roleplaying is one thing, but we develop connections and loyalties to friends in game as we do in any other walk of life. The thing that makes me see red is people disrespecting the effort on the part of my friends to aid a cause. You'll remember that I have been able to stay in clam Jade characterisation during any number of episodes of people calling me a coward or whatever. Its part of the role that Jade is able to take abuse and punishment and revel in it. But (as in the artegg log) when people tell get onto telling fibs about my friends, its massively more difficult to stay in character and ignore ordinary human reaction. Its instinctive to defend ones friends .. and that kind of instinct cuts through even pretentious levels of characterisation ;)
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Whilst it is a good thing that you are no longer in the "NVA", your presence in the game, and on these forums, is a welcome and refeshing one.
Why thank you m'dear, thats nice to hear. I think at the end it was Inkz that spoke the most honest truth about what happened. In many ways were doomed to fall out because of a) my approach to roleplaying and b) the character i chose for eve. At other times and in other games its entirely likely I would get off on being "one of the lads on TS" but just didn't suit this one.
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Our recent situation, doesnt change that. Anyone pwning FE on here, or in game, is a welcome sight
Lol, you do see to have given them a bit of a mauling last night. Will be interesting to see how the war plays out.
But it is a relief to be out of it; knowing what you do now about my motivations you most probably understand quite well how frustrating it was for me to have so much responsibility for interacting with an ostensibly roleplay-free alliance ;)
You know that my brand of roleplay isn't the limp-wristed "lets make it all up" kind. But still, I did miss not having people to debate ideological growth paradigms and macro-economic policy with ...
Doubtless our paths will cross again m'dear.
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