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Quentyn Forrest
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:33:00 -
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In a small corp that's just saved the money for a BS. We're torn between Dominix and Armageddon - it'll mainly be used for exotic mining and some rat hunting but not much PVP. Our CEO likes drones, but the other two that will be flying it like missiles better. Thoughts?
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:37:00 -
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none of does BS's can use Missiles!!
i would recommend the Arma, couse its a good Miner, good NPC Killer and looks cool!! 
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Spike Spiegel
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:43:00 -
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Go for the Arm. Even though it looks lame (yes it does I don't care what anyone says its flying *****), its a great miner for the price. Besides that it can hunt NPC's fairly well. So all in all it holds its own.
Dominix was my first BS was great for mining, and could handle other things quiet well. But mining wise its all about the Amarr ships.
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Namarus
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Posted - 2004.01.14 16:55:00 -
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I would go with the Dominix.
It was the first battleship that our corp invested in and it actually is a pretty good ship.
A decent number of high slots, fairly good number of medium slots, and quite a lot of low slots.
The large drone bay allows you to use harvesters, and to bring heavy combat drones, along with replacements with you for low sec mining.
It also has a good cargo bay for carrying loot and for ores when mining.
Final good point is that it is pretty cheap to build as level 1 battleships go.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.01.14 17:01:00 -
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If ya want mine - DomiNix
If u want to kill all sorts of Tire 2 Bs's in PVP 
Typhoon
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lash
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Posted - 2004.01.14 20:35:00 -
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The geddon is the best for your money battleship mining platform. It has the same drone bay and turret slots as a megathron. But with only having 3 medium slots it ends up being a bit on the vunerable side for any pvp activities. (not as much now with warp core stablizers and armor repairers being low slot but still wide open).
The dominix is a very well ronded ship. It gets the dmg modifier per skill lvl for hybrids, has the largest drone bay, 5 medium slots for extra protection and a very nice amount of low slots. It lacks a bit on the turret firepower when compaired (6 turrets to 7+ a optional high for smartbombs, etc.) But more than makes up for it in the extra protection and drone capacity.
The choice in the end is really all yours. But both ships are very nice and will serve your corp very well.
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2004.01.14 23:03:00 -
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Had both. Dominix owns. Geddon is less of a ship after castor isk making wise because of where you would make the most money with it was 0.9 running 7 miner 2s and 8 harvestors mining scord. Now.... Pfff you need to go lower and the domi cannot be beat in terms of safety and flexability ( you do wanna put a rock scanner on your ship and still be able to use a MWD and Shield booster with a hardner or 2 right ?) so this is a no brainer.
Get the Domi... then get another one... then another one... soon your guys will all be flying their own BS. But you should make sure your able to fly a thorax to its peak potential before you even think of sitting in a BS seat. Especially if your corp is strapped for cash and can only afford 1 for everyone to use.
As for hunting... Geddon holds nothing on the dommi. Train Large Projectiles to lvl 3 and slap some 1400mm on it ( 3 ) and a 720mm Howelizer and a pair of small smart bombs for alternating activations. MWD, AB, Large SB, SB amp and a named cap recharger on the mids. 2 Dmods, 1 overdrive, 2 cap relays and the rest with the prid mods you need for the 1400mms.
If you can't hunt with ease in that setup you need to keep flying thoraxs until you can.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.14 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 14/01/2004 23:45:00
Honest suggestion?
Wait till you can afford at least 3. 3 people flying the same battleship means you'll either be wasting large amounts of isk reinsuring the ship every time a new pilot gets into it. Or you'll be flying without insurance.
Both = Bad, especially assuming 'Exotic mining' = mining more than Omber.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.01.15 00:42:00 -
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I prefer the Armaggedon. Simply got more firepower.
It can hold more tachs than the Dominix, and use them more efficiently. Not to mention it shoots them more rapidly due to rate of fire bonux. And it can hold **MORE** 1400s as well, plus the mods. Dominix is better defensively, but if you believe that the best defense is a good offense, its the Armaggedon.
Drone advantage is not important in 0.0 space. Your complement of heavy drones are just going to die against a cruiser swarm.
My opinion is that a mix of both would be good. To deal with 0.0 rats, its good to have a combination of tanking setups with ships that has plenty of midslots, with bombarding damage dealers.
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Beseb
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Posted - 2004.01.15 02:09:00 -
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1400's on a Domi? Yuck, about as bad DPS as you can get! Unless of course, only the first shot matters to you.
Seriously, with the Domi's bonus to hybrid weapons, you'll do yourself a huge favor by leveraging it.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.01.15 05:17:00 -
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Dominix.
5 425mm rails and a load of drones you can solo .0 spawns. Fit whatever you need to resist/repair damage while fighting and you're good. I'd suggest tons of practice and getting to know the AI of the npcs first.
It's not too bad in pvp just not the best choice.
It's a good mining ship too, but save your cash, a thorax is just as well.
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Atea
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Posted - 2004.01.15 08:14:00 -
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In your situation I¦d go for the Domi... eventually I¦d look into upgrading to Typhoons tho, easily the best tier 1 battleship even though it sucks at mining.
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fras
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Posted - 2004.01.15 10:53:00 -
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Lansfear how do you fit out your Dominix to have 5x425's?
I assume u have engineering 5, that still leaves me quite a bit short power wise. What other modules do you fit?
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Polux
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Posted - 2004.01.15 11:07:00 -
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Buy the Arma. Use it only in high sec system mining ops. You guys wouldn't want to end up losing the ship wile going into low sec space whit it since BS are slow and easy picking for high class NPC groubs
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PAPA
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Posted - 2004.01.15 12:00:00 -
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go on chaos test sever and test both 4 free 2 your harts content
thats the best way 2 c 4 urselfs
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Captain Canuck
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Posted - 2004.01.15 19:32:00 -
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I think this really depends on your drone skills. If you have them maxed out, then the dominix all the way. 6 miner 2's, 10 harvesters in .9 or 1.0 space....mine a ton of ore. Or, in lower sec (.5 - .9) 7 harvesters and 3 heavy drones...and lots and lots of space for spares......Dominix if your drones skill allow it.
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Centauri
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Posted - 2004.01.16 00:52:00 -
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I prefer the Armaggedon. Simply got more firepower.
It can hold more tachs than the Dominix, and use them more efficiently. Not to mention it shoots them more rapidly due to rate of fire bonux. And it can hold **MORE** 1400s as well, plus the mods. Dominix is better defensively, but if you believe that the best defense is a good offense, its the Armaggedon.
Drone advantage is not important in 0.0 space. Your complement of heavy drones are just going to die against a cruiser swarm.
My opinion is that a mix of both would be good. To deal with 0.0 rats, its good to have a combination of tanking setups with ships that has plenty of midslots, with bombarding damage dealers.
That's the best advice here - listen to the pretty lady. But use tachs.
Centauri,
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Teeth
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Posted - 2004.01.16 01:52:00 -
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If it's your corps only battleship then I suggest getting an armageddon and using it for NON-exotic mining. Use it to mine kernite in 0.6 and keep using cruisers for exotic mining. You'll be able to afford a second bs in no time.
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Bellicose
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Posted - 2004.01.16 13:38:00 -
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one and a half month ago i started to collect the minerals for a Battleship my first BS that is... iam gallante so i looked at dominix first but it only has 6 turrets so i wouldet be much of a upgrade from my Thorax ( for mining that is ) so i ended up buying a BPC for a Armageddon got it build last monday havent regreded that i picked it instead of dominix its better at mining ... and it looks much better 
and when you get that BS you can get the other guys in your corp in BS real quick if you work together
Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon?
KittenArmy
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2004.01.20 07:33:00 -
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one and a half month ago i started to collect the minerals for a Battleship my first BS that is... iam gallante so i looked at dominix first but it only has 6 turrets so i wouldet be much of a upgrade from my Thorax ( for mining that is ) so i ended up buying a BPC for a Armageddon got it build last monday havent regreded that i picked it instead of dominix its better at mining ... and it looks much better
and when you get that BS you can get the other guys in your corp in BS real quick if you work together
Had both and there isn't much difference at all btw the isk intake of the domi. if your gonna mine scordite and veldspar sure... go with a geddon... if your gonna wanna go to get some nocx from jaspet... do your self a favor and get a dominix. Would really suck if you got your but handed to you by a few 30k bounties in 0.4 space because they ate your drones and then your shields and then.... well... need i go on.
Dominix is also a better NPC hunter hands down. No excuses no argument. Tachs suck on a geddon take that to the bank. 1400mm on a geddon is ok but i would rather have mids to save my butt in a pinch.
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