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Merell
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Posted - 2003.06.07 01:37:00 -
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Maybe they are playing m0o to see if the whining and complaining are also done by registered players.
And look it did, there are now atleast as much complaining in the semi functional closed forum as in the public.
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.07 03:54:00 -
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I really don't get why people blame CCP for this "problem." M0o's playing the game how it's supposed to be played--blockading a major trade route and intercepting all the loot that comes along. They're using teamwork in combat and organizing themselves well. What they're doing is what Eve is supposed to be.
It's the players' responsibility to deal with them, not CCP. My corp is small so I dealt with the situation by taking the long way around them. Sure it was an extra 20 minutes, but that beats risking an extra 2+ days to get a new ship.
If you want to point a finger, point it at the megacorps who COULD mobilize enough cruisers to stop m0o but don't bother with it. What m0o is doing is supposed to be hard to do, but only because angry players are supposed to make it hard. They're failing to do that. That's their problem, not a flaw in the game.
I'm not a m0o member by any means, but I like the spice they add to the game and I wasn't dumb enough to stumble into their highly publicized trap.
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Ceiri
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Posted - 2003.06.07 06:34:00 -
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Always nice to hear from yet another player who points the finger at everyone else, saying it's the players' jobs to fix it, while doing nothing themselves.
What's wrong with YOU? Why is it the megacorps' jobs and not yours?
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.06.07 07:40:00 -
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he said in his post that he is part of a small corp, so my guess is he cannot do anything about it....so he stayed clear
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.07 09:37:00 -
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What's wrong with YOU? Why is it the megacorps' jobs and not yours?
It's not my job because I don't mind simply avoiding m0o and I'm in a corp with a fleet too small to match m0o's in number.
The job belongs to the people who are capable of doing it effectively. So far they've failed to meet the challenge.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.06.07 10:16:00 -
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Also m0o has found a weapon/skill combination allowing them to take down cruisers in mere seconds, I won't go as far as calling this a exploit but it is bad balancing.
This is the main reason why m0o can pilage undisturbed because there were several attempts to remove them, resulting in utter faiulure and zero losses for the m0o corp.
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Storwin Winters
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Posted - 2003.06.07 10:20:00 -
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And it've never occurred to you, that if we was to go to Mara or wherever they are camping now, with a huge force, our belowed pirate friends would vanish - With their MWD's, we have no chance of scrabling them before they can reach a gate or something else.
We cannot defeat them, for their ways are tricky and unhonorable. What really needs to be done, is that Concord would respond properly to such a blockade..
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ABNTanker
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Posted - 2003.06.07 10:54:00 -
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I am not going to tell you what strategy to use since I am a member but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of dedicated organization. This is a players police players situation IMO not CONCORD.
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Storwin Winters
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Posted - 2003.06.07 11:01:00 -
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We would like to wipe the pirates out, but that is just not possible. They will flee long before we can kill them - it is that simple - and i don't think you would expect anyone to dedicate their playing tİme to following the cows around the galaxy.
I think it is wrong to put the responsibility on the shoulders of the big corps.
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The Reverend
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Posted - 2003.06.07 11:22:00 -
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LOL - all you guys make this worth while for us, I have never read so many comments on M0o before - makes me all warm and happy inside :-)
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Karash Amerius
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Posted - 2003.06.07 14:43:00 -
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I will always maintain that MWD is a hugely bad design element :)
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Deathlok
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Posted - 2003.06.07 17:47:00 -
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M0O is actually in great trouble. There has been a series of probes on them, and theyve got a real problem on their hands now. Numbers are huge vs them, and their tech is out of the bag.
Zap, that Raven will make a nice coffin. Theres an answer to MWD.
: P
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Gideon
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Posted - 2003.06.07 18:48:00 -
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Then the slaughter will continue with that attitude Storwin.
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Acuna Traos
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Posted - 2003.06.07 20:31:00 -
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Woo they have MWD, there are ways to get round that, 2 I can think of without straining the old noggin.
The damage m0o can do isn't anything to do with a uber weapon, its a combination of a rare weapon, some rare equip and char skills. Though cause I don't want to see ships everywhere capable of that sort of damage I'm not going to say what. Though I'm not overly scared by them. I'd be woried if I was on my own and came across 4 or 5 of them, less than that I could easily escape and 1 on one I could take them out (might be close and they may runa way though).
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Wyke DeRainger
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Posted - 2003.06.07 21:52:00 -
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The probability is that Moo is already falling appart,from the inside.
Once you get enough members together you find it more difficult to keep a stable team. Moo members will either start getting lured towards the easy money of selling off the info on why they are so good, or will even have 'agents' of other Corps within their midst.
At the moment they enjoy a tech/skills advantage, but one way or another other Corps will discover their secrets and copy them, then the wieght of numbers against them will bring them down.
I think it would be a shame if the Dev's have to step in to 'fettle' Moo, because then it would, to me, be an admission that the guys in Moo had dicovered an exploit. So long as they are playing wholly within the game mechanics with other players having an equal chance of replicating what they have, then any 'fettling' should be left to us players.
It was only last week that people were thorwing their hands up in horror at another pirate group, I forget their name now, But a couple of the big Corps have sorted them out and their members are being hunted down and podded all over.
To the folks in Moo. All I'd ask is to show a bit of common sense and be responsible in your play. I'm sure that no matter what your methods are, the one way to get the Devs against you is to play in such a way as to drive off other players. There's a very fine line between good roleplaying gamesmanship and game spoiling for everybody else. It'd be better to have Moo as part of the Eve mythos through out the run of the game, rather then have Moo be remembered as the bunch of ********s who needed to be killed off because their bad sportsmanship was spoiling the game for everybody else and driving off customers.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.06.08 00:04:00 -
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No, CCP is not m0o..
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The Reverend
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Posted - 2003.06.08 00:25:00 -
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No M0o is not polaris :-p
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.08 00:31:00 -
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If m0o were CCP we would all be flying aroud in uber battleships and teleporting to your location and podkilling you before our ships loaded on your screen.
Then we would go to the forums and post about how your mining operations have been too successful and our 'Serpentis elite ops' had to come and throttle you a bit.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.08 00:51:00 -
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Hi,
now m0o is whining.
Cause they couldn't destroy a few special ops battleships in a few seconds like they do it with the cruisers of their enemies.
Cause they raped empire controlled space and were not smart enough to think about a possible GM controlled repsonse.
I bet they thought they would be able to camp that gate for the next 5 years being on top of the food chain for ever and ever.
CONCORD answered for now.
Next time some bigger corps will blow your to pieces. Even if it needs 10 ships of same class to blow one of your's.
Will you be whining then again?
This isn't DAoC PvP where you can camp the **** out of the people outside of a capitol city.
We have a cool GM / NPC / PC controlled world and it's living.
Go out and change it and stop whining.
And who said gamemasters aren't part of the game?
Bye...
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.08 01:02:00 -
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We are not whining about not being able to destroy ships.
We are complaining about the fact that the player base could have handled this situation and there was no need for GMs to show up in their uber ships and podkill us all.
But whatever.. 99% of the people that read this are going to be so happy to see that we were disrupted that they won't care to see our point of view. So this post is only really going to be of value to a very small number of people.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.08 01:35:00 -
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Hi,
I'm sure the player base will handle such issues in the future alone.
I don't have any in game exp with m0o. But I know that you already made a lot of enemies and that they do not forget. They will deal with you sometime.
For now you also ****ed of some NPC controlled authorities and they responded.
Instead of pod killing passing noobs you could swarm out and try to find the 0.0 systems, in which the larger corps are mining in with heavy defence.
Maybe that would be a challenge for you. And you wouldn't drive the NPC controlled authorities crazy.
Maybe you are just too advanced. Who knows... Anyway. Have fun.
No offence.
Bye...
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Ceiri
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Posted - 2003.06.08 02:55:00 -
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Molly, the whole reason Moo is in newbie space in the first place is that they don't want to go face the bigger corps on even footing. It's never been about "challenge".
They actually think no one's out there, which means they're either not smart enough to figure out how to use the map, or they never go out there.
It's picking on helpless people they want.
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Listerine
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Posted - 2003.06.08 10:56:00 -
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Well first off you are wondering why most of the larger corps didn't handle the situation. My guess is because you didn't affect them. I am around the lonetrek region but never ran into you so I really had no concern with what you were doing because I was too busy making money. Which i'm sure is what most of the other corps were doing. They didn't have a reason to waste their resources to push you out of mara because it didn't benefit them. You were slaughtering newbies not blockading a ark or bist location where a large corp may have interest.
"We are complaining about the fact that the player base could have handled this situation"
really.. ok can I use that line too? I'm sick of the cruiser spawns in ark and bist locations. They spawn right on top of you sometimes. they don't have to warp in or anything. I also noticed sometimes when you warp to the belts they are already there. Its so rediculous. Because I really feel the player base can handle the situation. Oh no... damn... that won't work. why? because moo is too busy podding newbies.
Suck it up. You got treated like the way you treat newbies. Bigger ships, more firepower, more experienced players, and without warning. They were called special ops.... and last time I checked when special forces rescued the woman hostage in Iraq they didn't make a phone call first to tell them they were comming.
So suck it up and stop crying or quit the game. I really could care which of the two but pick one. Nobody has any sympathy for a corp that podkills newbies.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2003.06.08 11:06:00 -
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Another thing you have to realize is that its very early in the game. Players or corps want to be the first flying battleships. Taking time to fight a pirate corp that will result in no extra isk doesn't seem logical. While a select few take out moo, the rest of the game advances further towards battleships, putting those "good samaritans" further behind. Wait another month or two, and then try it again. I think the player based response will be very different. |
Khyle
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Posted - 2003.06.08 12:04:00 -
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About "the player base handling this":
Mabye the player base could have handled this, but i see no reason why they should be forced to do it. empire space SHOULD be controlled by the empires, not some self declared deputies.
A message to Axelay:
If you just say "let players handle this" a few times more, ill search for all your posts and post after your post: "Please remove all npc pirates in ark-belts, player pirate corps should handle this."
Your attitude regarding this is one-sided and inappropriate imho, no offense meant. If you want more players on your tail, go to corp controlled space.
I do hope you relocate your activities to non-empire space soon, where the real money, and real player-opposition is. Believe me, there is much more fun to be had out there than podding newbs.
Edited by: Khyle on 08/06/2003 12:09:56
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Bob Morton
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Posted - 2004.04.30 06:53:00 -
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BUMP
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Shadow Raver
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Posted - 2004.04.30 07:05:00 -
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stop bumping threads dammit 
When The Man Behind The Blade Comes You Will Feel Pain |
Bob Morton
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Posted - 2004.04.30 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shadow Raver
stop bumping threads dammit
you just bumped it by saying that.
and for reading this history lesson, you own the ODCS 1,000,000isk.
your name has been written down, we expect payment to be quick, thank you.
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Shadow Raver
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Posted - 2004.04.30 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shadow Raver on 30/04/2004 07:20:20
Originally by: Bob Morton
Originally by: Shadow Raver
stop bumping threads dammit
you just bumped it by saying that.
and for reading this history lesson, you own the ODCS 1,000,000isk.
your name has been written down, we expect payment to be quick, thank you.
and by just saying this You owe me 100 miljon isk as payment for making me loose a precious 10 minutes in game time. and if you chose not to pay there will be severe things happening to your ships 
When The Man Behind The Blade Comes You Will Feel Pain |
Falbala
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Posted - 2004.04.30 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Falbala on 30/04/2004 07:20:30
Originally by: Shadow Raver
and for reading this history lesson, you own the ODCS 1,000,000isk.
I think he meant you owe, I love when people make such sentences  .
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