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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:56:00 -
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A well fitted loki isn't much cheaper than a cheaply fitted mach and probably less forgiving (get webbed/target painted and you may be in trouble - especially with poor support skills).
Would it be possible to run L4's with any of these ships? I guess it would. would it be slow and tedious - for sure. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:30:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:SB is paper, it'll die in fire.
I think he's referring to a small shield booster, not a stealthbomber.
I agree on the part about experience though.
Jabs: You'll certainly be fine with some experience and if you handpick the missions you run with the HAC (just as mushroom said - those you can blitz or at least don't have to grind through lots of HP should be fine) and do the others in the Mael/decline them. Hell - I've run L4's in assault frigs.
I suggest to get acquainted with the ships, you should maybe run a few l3's first, but then you should be fine.
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:47:00 -
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I meant you should just run them in a few l3s in a vaga first to get used to the ships behaviour and capabilities.
As for above question on using an MWD or AB - it depends on the mission, but AB should be easier in pve as you can effectively sig tank and should be able to still outrun NPCs just fine and is more forgiving if you have poor navigation and cap skills.
Concerning incursions: I hear lokis are used in them to web - but there's certainly someone more competent to answer this question as I've only run incursions when they were released to check them out and haven't bothered with the since. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

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Posted - 2012.01.05 00:07:00 -
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Jabs OwlsRotate wrote: ok, thanks for that, but from what i gather, the loki and vaga don't seem to be very good at many PVE activities, are there any other minmatar ships that are? (mainly looking at T2) excluding the vargur, i know its very good at missioning.
The Sleipnir is rather decent at PVE, but then, you'll probably sooner be in a Mach, which plainly outperforms it.
Quote: ps. i would post my fit, but i dunno how, should i just type it out?
If you use EFT, just click on the little ship symbol right beneath the name of the fit, select copy to clipboard and paste it here. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

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Posted - 2012.01.05 00:55:00 -
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That's a decent fit - If speed is the issue, you could probably try fitting an MWD (Quad Lif fueled booster rockets, T2 or something like Shadow Sepentis) on it, maybe swap the XL T2 shield booster for something like a Dread Guristas XL booster if you don't have the fitting skills, swap the cap recharger to a Heavy cap booster II with cap booster 800's and if you like it, get rid of the CCC rigs and pick rigs depending on what you feel it lacks the most.
Overall it looks overtanked to me, but then I can only use my skills to retrieve the stats from it.
it wil look somewhat cap-unstable in EFT, but you'll find that if you only burst the MWD and won't have to run the SB all the time, you won't even need to activate the cap booster most of the time. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
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