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Ariel Dawn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:30:00 - [1] Overloaded Stasis Webifiers can be activated at 13km now, with Domination ones reaching up to 19.5km. Going in close can result now can result in the loss of your ship. Also, re-asses which targets one can now engage. Since you have to be a few km further away from your target in order to control range, the DPS decrease (due to being further out in falloff) is significant enough that it will be much more difficult to break the tanks of ships. Minmatar/frigates have been nerfed in Revelations II. You have been warned.
Ragornok Multiversal Enterprise Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:32:00 - [2] Oooooh, and I'm a Huggin pilot. I'm gonna like this.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:32:00 - [3] And mimnatar recons have been boosted SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:34:00 - [4] So who wants to test how many cycles before that expensive webifier goes pop and you are defenseless until you can refit at a station? ----- Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter "Do you remember the Jiggly Wiggly guy?" "Yes, his thread was hilarious!" "Yeah, and i even posted in it!"
Ariel Dawn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Ash Vincetti So who wants to test how many cycles before that expensive webifier goes pop and you are defenseless until you can refit at a station? Except you only need 1 or 2 cycles to get within normal webbing range, at which point you then turn off the overheating. While modules do get destroyed fairly quickly overheating, 1/2 cycles is very far within the safety zone.
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:57:00 - [6] and then I overload my MWD and get out of the webber range
Ariel Dawn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:05:00 - [7] Originally by: MotherMoon and then I overload my MWD and get out of the webber range The opposing ship webs you and is MWD'ing towards you. There is not a chance that you will have enough speed to get outside of web range, overloaded MWD or not, when your total speed is reduced by 90% while theirs is 1.5-2.5km/s unless your unwebbed MWD speed is higher than theirs x10. Not going to happen.
Kaar Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:07:00 - [8] Originally by: MotherMoon and then I overload my MWD and get out of the webber range touchT --- ---
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:08:00 - [9] Edited by: MotherMoon on 20/06/2007 01:10:01 Originally by: Ariel Dawn Originally by: MotherMoon and then I overload my MWD and get out of the webber range The opposing ship webs you and is MWD'ing towards you. There is not a chance that you will have enough speed to get outside of web range, overloaded MWD or not, when your total speed is reduced by 90% while theirs is 1.5-2.5km/s unless your unwebbed MWD speed is higher than theirs x10. Not going to happen. well then I'll web back um plus overloading there web is going to dodmg to there MWD or maybe I'll just not get in 20 km range or I'll run nos and drain them so the web stops I'll overload the nos I'll tracking disrupt them I'll nuet them I'll warp away Ill trust in my fleet to back me up I'll web back while MWDing away with the rack overheating jsut for the chance to get away the MWD overload is about a 100% increase and if I lose ym 200k ship the I'll cry and buy another
Gray Carmicheal Valiant Logistics Inc. Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:10:00 - [10] /me hugs his Huginn. I always loved you the most baby. smoochies This Sig is Within Rules. :P

Yowin Bikini Bandits	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:11:00 - [11] Edited by: Yowin on 20/06/2007 01:10:26 Huginns and speedcurses with dampeners are now a lot better than vagabonds. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo

Sahwoolo Etoophie Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:11:00 - [12] Moved from GD. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website In case you're wondering, I'm now stationed in Jamaica that is why I look tanned and wearing sunglasses. Just look how pale I was!

50freefly Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:59:00 - [13] Crap, the sky is falling again. And I just had the new roof put in... Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Trishan Green Men Incorporated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:36:00 - [14] The upside is that vagabonds and similar ships will be cheap once they start popping or people realize the crappy dps they get with them. Winners? Missile and drone kiting boats.
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:40:00 - [15] Unless I'm mistaken modules will not be destroyed... they are just damaged so they might not work - and can be repaired... Pinky Denmark - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing...
AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:42:00 - [16] Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 20/06/2007 09:41:12 bull** *** bull. as soon as i start skilling for something, things change dramatically and things get ** up again. And, naturally, Minmatar get the shaft AGAIN. Why not simply erase the *** from the game and be done with it. ** that. The ONLY thing that matari had - speed - has been taken away.
Stork DK Red 42	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:49:00 - [17] looking forward to get 78 km webbage on my huginn -------------- If i could be a Super Hero, i would be AwesomeMan Matari Ate The Amarr Race
Trishan Green Men Incorporated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Pinky Denmark Unless I'm mistaken modules will not be destroyed... they are just damaged so they might not work - and can be repaired... Pinky Denmark That's my understanding too. It does, however, not matter. You only have to get an an overheat cycle and the prey is in your regular webbing range for joyful dismemberment. Thus, people will fly away the extra range added by overheat, which will impact their dps.
OwnedBy Me	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:44:00 - [19] Vagabonds are just big tacklers that does some good dmg too.. And get ur rapier/huginn out then.. Stop whining
Cilppiz FinFleet	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:57:00 - [20] Ooh yeah, My Huginns will love this feature and it wont hurt my Vaga either as I dont solo. Any idea is one can heat gangmods

Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:06:00 - [21] You dont lose 90% speed instantly, theres plenty of time to double click in a random direction and get out of range.
Nicholas Barker MASS	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:45:00 - [22] Originally by: Ask Unbeatable You dont lose 90% speed instantly, theres plenty of time to double click in a random direction and get out of range. it's far from random, you have to click in the direction you're going (compensating for lag) otherwise your ship will slow down to turn and won't pick up speed again. ---
Ariel Dawn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:08:00 - [23] Edited by: Ariel Dawn on 20/06/2007 14:06:46 Originally by: Ask Unbeatable You dont lose 90% speed instantly, theres plenty of time to double click in a random direction and get out of range. Well, I wouldn't call 1-2 seconds plenty of time (remember, the webbing player is MWD'ing towards you) in conjunction with the lag/delay normally experienced in EVE. Can be difficult to accomplish in practice. Essentially, the overheating webs change negatively impacts on: Wolf (Fights in web range now) Saber (Fights in web range now) Stabber (No falloff bonus, terrible DPS) Hurricane (No falloff bonus, poor DPS. Also much more difficult to beat Myrms) Vagabond (Significant DPS drop) Sleipnir (Significant DPS drop)
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Ariel Dawn [Essentially, the overheating webs change negatively impacts on: Wolf (Fights in web range now) Saber (Fights in web range now) Stabber (No falloff bonus, terrible DPS) Hurricane (No falloff bonus, poor DPS. Also much more difficult to beat Myrms) Vagabond (Significant DPS drop) Sleipnir (Significant DPS drop) It negatively impact SOME setups, not ships. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Alrich	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:47:00 - [25] the problem is that you cant heat it unless it is already active... you need to have him within webbrange and webbed before the bonus is activated
Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Alrich the problem is that you cant heat it unless it is already active... you need to have him within webbrange and webbed before the bonus is activated Wrong, you can enable heat on inactive modules. We're sorry, something happened.
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:04:00 - [27] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Alrich the problem is that you cant heat it unless it is already active... you need to have him within webbrange and webbed before the bonus is activated Wrong, you can enable heat on inactive modules. You my friend are uber! /me pulls vagabonds out of the garage again
sariss Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:06:00 - [28] Real men use autocannons and fight CLOSE
Ariel Dawn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Ariel Dawn [Essentially, the overheating webs change negatively impacts on: Wolf (Fights in web range now) Saber (Fights in web range now) Stabber (No falloff bonus, terrible DPS) Hurricane (No falloff bonus, poor DPS. Also much more difficult to beat Myrms) Vagabond (Significant DPS drop) Sleipnir (Significant DPS drop) It negatively impact SOME setups, not ships. I wouldn't say SOME setups as the majority of these ships are geared to fighting with ACs with their speed/falloff bonuses; and I'm only talking about such setups. Artillery fits are not affected, nor are in your face slug-match style AC boats. Keeping range and working in falloff is what has changed.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:30:00 - [30] Thread A: Heat is useless, not going to train it! Thread B: Energy Management V is too high! I'm not going to train it! Thread C: I'm not using heat, it destroys my uber modules! Thread D: OMG! Heat nerfed these ships! The sky is falling! Oh the irony. The warning is good, people need to realise it's now possible to extend the range of webbers. Saying the ships are nerfed or useless is a bit much. The changes haven't even been live for 24 hours. Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.



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