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Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:03:00 -
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So, here I am sitting at my desk, about to leave for work and I'm 1h 35m away from finishing a prerequisite to another skill that I have as a skillbook in my item hangar.
fml. |
Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:06:00 -
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Because your not smart enough yet to use that book yet. E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2662
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:27:00 -
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Scortched Merc wrote:Because your not smart enough yet to use that book yet.
*you're
And you're not smart enough to post here yet!
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
80
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:33:00 -
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Because if you could inject a skill that you don't yet have the prereqs to use, you could use unallocated skill points to skip levels of a prereq skill. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:09:00 -
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I think you guys are missing the point here.
You don't automatically inject it once you place the skillbook into your queue. It automatically injects it when the prereq skill in your queue finishes, so by the time of skillbook injection you do have the prereq.
It'd be nice to schedule injecting skillbooks through the skill queue, just sayin'. |
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
169
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:12:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:I think you guys are missing the point here.
You don't automatically inject it once you place the skillbook into your queue. It automatically injects it when the prereq skill in your queue finishes, so by the time of skillbook injection you do have the prereq.
It'd be nice to schedule injecting skillbooks through the skill queue, just sayin'. This is why you need a 'dump skill'. Also very useful for patch/expansion releases in case the server is down a day or three. I use gallente drone spec V. In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:15:00 -
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Kilrayn wrote:Tear Miner wrote:I think you guys are missing the point here.
You don't automatically inject it once you place the skillbook into your queue. It automatically injects it when the prereq skill in your queue finishes, so by the time of skillbook injection you do have the prereq.
It'd be nice to schedule injecting skillbooks through the skill queue, just sayin'. This is why you need a 'dump skill'. Also very useful for patch/expansion releases in case the server is down a day or three. I use gallente drone spec V.
But I'm on a tight schedule for a fleet op, I don't have time to dump into a "dump skill". |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
285
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:17:00 -
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You were "about to leave for work" over an hour ago? Surely you can wait 10 more minutes and inject the second skill yourself. |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:20:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:You were "about to leave for work" over an hour ago? Surely you can wait 10 more minutes and inject the second skill yourself.
I've been at work for an hour now
I think we're getting off the rails here a bit, do people just not think it's convenient to schedule a skillbook to inject through the skill queue?
I thought it'd be a nice improvement to the queue to make our space lives just a little bit easier... |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:24:00 -
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Yes it would be nice.
So would peace on earth. |
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Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M
50
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:23:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:You were "about to leave for work" over an hour ago? Surely you can wait 10 more minutes and inject the second skill yourself. I've been at work for an hour now I think we're getting off the rails here a bit, do people just not think it's convenient to schedule a skillbook to inject through the skill queue? I thought it'd be a nice improvement to the queue to make our space lives just a little bit easier...
Can't believe all the nonsense people are talking.
I totally get the problem and Yes - absolutely. It would be really useful - I can't see that it gives any unfair advantage. The queue lets you be efficient in your training of other skills. So just one of those small things that would make it a little nicer to use
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
822
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:46:00 -
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Cry more Tear Miner. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Velicitia
Open Designs
433
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Posted - 2012.01.05 18:16:00 -
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counter-proposal --> remove the queue altogether. |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:10:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Yes it would be nice.
So would peace on earth.
I think we can agree that peace on earth and this feature request have vastly different levels of difficulty. |
Turrell 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:25:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:Orlacc wrote:Yes it would be nice.
So would peace on earth. I think we can agree that peace on earth and this feature request have vastly different levels of difficulty.
I predict peace on earth before CCP even thinks about changing the skill que. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
4755
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:34:00 -
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Turrell 1 wrote:Tear Miner wrote:Orlacc wrote:Yes it would be nice.
So would peace on earth. I think we can agree that peace on earth and this feature request have vastly different levels of difficulty. I predict peace on earth before CCP even thinks about changing the skill que. I predict we'll get another thread in this regard in the near future and that will also contain the incorrect spelling of the word queue. There will also be someone like myself, pointing out the error.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Nisa Darksoul
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 19:58:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:counter-proposal --> remove the queue altogether.
<3 |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate EVE Animal Control
10
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:06:00 -
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I think it's stupid to have it the way that it currently is as well. However, count your blessings that the queue even exists. As I'm sure everyone is aware, it didn't always. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
70
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:13:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote:I think it's stupid to have it the way that it currently is as well. However, count your blessings that the queue even exists. As I'm sure everyone is aware, it didn't always.
Yep, waiting for "Skill training completed" was annoying as hell. Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
56
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:16:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:counter-proposal --> remove the queue altogether.
F**k that... It would be fine if all I had left to train ever were level 4 and 5 skills. But when you get to some area with a ton of new skills I would not want to be online for hours on end just to never miss the end of training a skill to start a new one.
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Cherry Nobyl
Shadow Strike Syndicate
52
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:46:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:So, here I am sitting at my desk, about to leave for work and I'm 1h 35m away from finishing a prerequisite to another skill that I have as a skillbook in my item hangar.
fml.
this, and other, examples are why skill queues should be allowed to be managed semi offline while logged into evegate. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1142
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:51:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Velicitia wrote:counter-proposal --> remove the queue altogether. F**k that... It would be fine if all I had left to train ever were level 4 and 5 skills. But when you get to some area with a ton of new skills I would not want to be online for hours on end just to never miss the end of training a skill to start a new one.
The queue (which took a good long while to be implemented) was introduced to stop Alarm clock skill switching. It does this. If you need to inject a skill, queue up your next already injected skill until you have the time to queue it up.
Otherwise the potential for abuse/whining fails is obvious.
@OP: If you're committing to a fleet composition based on a skill you don't yet have, uhhh, wut? |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
187
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Posted - 2012.01.05 20:58:00 -
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Doncha love folks who answer their own questions in the question? "I can't bend EVE to my will to accomodate the fact I'm playing at work...instead of working. RECODE THE GAME!"
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
394
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:43:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:So, here I am sitting at my desk, about to leave for work and I'm 1h 35m away from finishing a prerequisite to another skill that I have as a skillbook in my item hangar. To pre-inject a book into a skill queue, it would have to be removed from your inventory. Also, when removed from the skill queue, the book would have to restored to your inventory. Since you might be in a pod in space, the book would have to be restored to your home station.
All that adds up to a lot of new code, and potential problems I missed. Plus, the skill queue does what it was designed to do, so CCP currently doesn't seem to have any interest in revisiting it.
Would be nice though. |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:51:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:So, here I am sitting at my desk, about to leave for work and I'm 1h 35m away from finishing a prerequisite to another skill that I have as a skillbook in my item hangar.
fml.
Tear Miner wrote:I think you guys are missing the point here.
You don't automatically inject it once you place the skillbook into your queue. It automatically injects it when the prereq skill in your queue finishes, so by the time of skillbook injection you do have the prereq.
It'd be nice to schedule injecting skillbooks through the skill queue, just sayin'.
If you actually communicated the point you wanted people to get in your original post you may have had a more successful fishing trip. It is a common mistake people make. They write something with all their background knowledge and thoughts; yet somehow expect others to divine their intent. There is a fancy word for it, but I don't recall what it is.
I find that EVEMon is very good for managing your skills as you can create a plan, set your remaps and know when what finishes. This leaves you without a nasty little surprise like this one. It does require a bit of diligence and I'm starting to think this is an attribute that, despite the game's nature, a number of players in EVE Online lack.
I do like the idea of being able to queue skill injections as well. Maybe you should create a thread in the Suggestion sub-forum for it. |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
137
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:13:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Scortched Merc wrote:Because your not smart enough yet to use that book yet. *you're And you're not smart enough to post here yet!
You must not start a sentence with a conjunction, dear boy. When you die your ship gets blown to tiny, burning pieces. There's no "corpse run", no "respawn". You're dead. That's it. You just lost everything you were flying, perhaps even your body. Worse still you may have lost the space you controlled or resources you were gathering.-áTake that away and EVE is no longer EVE. TL;DR: Fix war decs. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:21:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Turrell 1 wrote:Tear Miner wrote:Orlacc wrote:Yes it would be nice.
So would peace on earth. I think we can agree that peace on earth and this feature request have vastly different levels of difficulty. I predict peace on earth before CCP even thinks about changing the skill que. I predict we'll get another thread in this regard in the near future and that will also contain the incorrect spelling of the word queue. There will also be someone like myself, pointing out the error.
Skill what? (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) -áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1143
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:41:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Scortched Merc wrote:Because your not smart enough yet to use that book yet. *you're And you're not smart enough to post here yet! You must not start a sentence with a conjunction, dear boy.
Conjunction Junction, WHAT'S YOUR FUNCTION, hooking up words and phrases and clauses
Fragmentary clauses are commonly used in responses during informal communication, both written and oral. Consider it an informally organized list of clauses. Using a conjunction to link clauses is valid. Especially when the first one isn't a sentence*.
*"you're" |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
189
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:00:00 -
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The epitome of ignorance, the proliferation of failure to learn (ignoring things is ignorance) the differences between their, there and they're. Heap upon this pile "you're" and "your". The stupidity this involves is monumental! No, wait...I said ignorant. Okay, ignorant it is, then.
Their - possessive pronoun. There - pronoun signifying a PLACE. They're - contraction of "they are".
This is required reading, by the way (btw for those who need it.)
Your - yet another possessive pronoun. Your is singular. Their is plural. (Plural means "more than ONE.") You're - contraction of "you are." You're is (again) singular. They're is (again) plural.
If you only knew how dumb you look when you misuse these, you'll find the beginnings of why you're terminally unemployable.
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |
Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:05:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:If you only knew how dumb you look when you misuse these, you'll find the beginnings of why you're terminally unemployable.
This has always resonated for me. It explains things in a way even the terminally stupid can understand. |
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