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Lokiutus
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:09:00 -
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Awesome Idea! I'd sacrifice one in a sec! (actually my plan involves 3 of them) :).
If only i could overload the WMD's
It would be nice if they at least changed some area's to 0.0 as they have in the past....it opens up sooo many options.
Call me alticus
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Ser Prius
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:19:00 -
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I agree with the proposal to put Cap ships back into highsec for one reason, namely Level 5 missions. There are Level 5's that NEED cap ships, and you can get agents and even missions in highsec. Last night we had one that there was no way to tank in a Domi. it's take either a huge fleet or a few large ships to do.
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John McCreedy
Caldari
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:56:00 -
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Good god no. The likes of Jita is bad enough without having Super Caps such as Motherships and all those fighters or DDD's going off. The lag would be the end of Eve.
Make a Difference
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Onchas Erivvia
Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:05:00 -
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 Originally by: RtoZ
A charon, from a rough visual estimate, is about the size of a Wyvern. I'm sure someone will correct me with stats, but it still looks the size of a wyvern.
It's not. It's not even close.
I have a picture somewhere of a bunch (20ish) of Oblesks flying up to an Avatar before a bridge. They look like sperm swimming towards an egg.
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Vodka Neat
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:31:00 -
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Here is the reason this will never happen.
Cyno fields give the civilians cancer and destroy crops! Freighters don't use them therefore are allowed into high sec.
Why are you still reading? Its over. Continue to the next post.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: AlleyKat
I think you are wrong.
If n00bs want new ships to look at, fly to Amarr and watch Chribba mine in the veldnought - or jump on the test server and watch carriers gank and tank each other.
As for ruining the suspension of disbelief, there are more than enough ways for this to happen in the game as it is, bouncing off moons next to stations is one of them, and then warping though them is another - are you suggesting we change those things too?
Or do you simply want to fly a carrier in high-sec with practically Zero-risk and pose in front of newbies?
AK.
Chribba's naught was moved to lowsec iirc. 
Seriously?!
Nope, it is still mining Veld in Amarr.
Thats good. That would have been the end of one of EVE's great legends 
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Nobuo213
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:53:00 -
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What's with people always talking about Jita?o_o
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Dimitrios Ypsilanti
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: RtoZ
Madness...
I propose Bizarro Eve. For one week 0.0 and high sec switch places. Everyone in high sec finds themselves in surrounded by faction BS rats, caps, BoB wars. Everyone in 0.0 gets capped by Concord whenever they shoot someone.
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Nobuo213
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Originally by: RtoZ
Madness...
I propose Bizarro Eve. For one week 0.0 and high sec switch places. Everyone in high sec finds themselves in surrounded by faction BS rats, caps, BoB wars. Everyone in 0.0 gets capped by Concord whenever they shoot someone.
That'd be hilarious.
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:30:00 -
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I took your idea to the rulers of the caldari, frenchie, slavers and ducttape masters...
They all said hell no. The 4 governments refuse to allow supercaps within there immediatly controlled empires.
When I showed your idea to the Concord council.. they all laughed at you.
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:15:00 -
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I like how the OP skips over Cap ships entirely and just goes for Super Caps.
Like there wouldn't be enough problems with Carriers and Dreads in high sec, but he wants to have MSes and Titans there too?
I used to get It.
Then It changed.
Now I don't even know what It is.
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insidion
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:43:00 -
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I think that some things like this do need to be revisited. Personally, I think that caps should be allowed in high sec, and super caps should be restricted to low sec. Would make things pretty damn interesting. =)
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.06.22 02:11:00 -
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Some people need to learn how to read, because they are making points against things I did not say, allthough I admit the thread title is a bit missleading. Other people are just blurting out nonsense. Seriously folks, read AT LEAST the original post before you post.
And for reference and Wyvern (mothership) is not a Leviathan (Titan), so do not compare freighter size to avatars, which are amarr titans. The model for the wyvern is not much bigger than a charon, allthough it probably is listed with a higher mass and bigger volume in stats.
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2007.06.22 02:14:00 -
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I know it would never happen but allowing them in high sec would be cool. Nerf them to hell and back, lock all their modules so they can't activate anything and make them invulnerable as well. No way for them to attack or be attacked.
Imagine letting the noobs see these things up close and them going "oooh, ahhhh ! That's what I can fly if I play for another 18 months, coooool, where do I sign up?"
I didn't even SEE a carrier within my first 5 months of playing (been playing about 12 months now... where'd my life go?) and I was in a 0.0 alliance after 2 months
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Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.22 02:27:00 -
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I dont really look forward to seeing 12 motherships outside of jita 5-5
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.06.22 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ser Prius
I agree with the proposal to put Cap ships back into highsec for one reason, namely Level 5 missions. There are Level 5's that NEED cap ships, and you can get agents and even missions in highsec. Last night we had one that there was no way to tank in a Domi. it's take either a huge fleet or a few large ships to do.
yes there are lev 5`s that need cap ships
BUT
there are no lev 5 agents in high sec , they are all in lo - sec
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Kredan Rasok
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Posted - 2007.06.22 03:34:00 -
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Well just to give my view on this perhaps just limit it to Carriers and Dreads, No Motherships or Titans. Just stuff that you could build in a Large Ship Assembly Array.
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.22 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 22/06/2007 06:51:23
Dreads would already be too much of a pain for the small industrial corps, who have worked hard to get the standing to setup some research poses in high sec. etc, which is almost worthless now, because any mediocre pvp force can sweep their stuff away after a rather cheap war dec.
Mercs are not really an option in the longterm, because such a little high sec industrial corp can't be competitive, if they need to hire mercs all the time to protect their poses.
If they allow dreads in high sec., it will be the death sentence for poses in high sec run by small independent industrial corps. I think it's still high sec., so it should allow those 'carebear' corps to build something up without getting it torn down again right away by some bored people.
I think there should be a way for those corps to play their way in high sec without being forced to alliance-0.0-style play in high-sec. They are not ready for that or don't want it, that's why they are in high sec. and have aquired the necessary standings in the first place.
Yes, I speak for the so called 'carebears' in this matter. I think they should have a chance to build something up in high sec. with pos'es and not become the target number one of bored dread pilots etc. 
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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tangent Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.22 06:57:00 -
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To be honest i couldent care less, but a few prehaps possible changes to settle what seem to be the biggest issues, make it so doomsdays cant be used in 0.5 or above, let capitals goes into upto 0.7, like i said i dont really care.
But just a few ideas/possible work arounds the biggest issues.
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Fester Addams
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.22 07:19:00 -
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There is only one "legal" reason why anyone would want to take capital ships into highsec as I see it...
To wardec small defensless corps and kill their High sec POS's.
Now I can understand that some people are anoyed that it takes so much effort to take down a POS in high sec with smaller ships.
However why should CCP alter a very good limit to capital ships so that a very small group can attack people that can not fight back?
Risk vs reward anyone?
Besides if this change is done it will take less than a month before we see thousands of posts about how easy lev 4 missions are if you assist with a carrier, how many capital ships are hiding out in high sec, how wrong it is that people mine in capital ships, how people flying capital ships should be forced out into lowsec...
Besides the real reason why capitals (apart from freighters) cant go to high sec is as already pointed out not about them not being able to go there, its about the high sec systems not wanting them in there.
My bet is that 30sec after capital ships are allowed in we will have gank squads in Jita (and similar places) tanking concord in a reinforced dread backed upp by a carrier or two.
In short leave capitals (with the exeption of freighters) out of high sec.
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