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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.23 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Freddy Jnr But what ARE you doing in a carrier with those drone skills? Sorry - What WERE you doing in a carrier?
Its not about how sucky carrier pilot he is, but about fact that u HAD TO fake killmail, u failed at killing him so u faked kill. It's almost as pathetic as one guy who cut me OFF his deathmail. ---
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Sku1ly
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.23 10:39:00 -
[122]
Would've been amusing if Davlin and his Wyvern had got you the other day - shame he had to change points to deal with support.
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fnar g
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.23 10:57:00 -
[123]
It's not unusual for corps to allow faked killmails if the actual killmail wasn't available.
They did cause your death after all, just didn't get the final blow.
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Mysdora
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:16:00 -
[124]
Either you get the kill, or you don't. Accept any excuses in between, and the line will start drifting, and soon you can't trust any killboards.
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Spaced Skunk
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:20:00 -
[125]
In the end he WOULD have died to them.
Whats the fuss on the fake killmail?
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PYROnoxx
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:26:00 -
[126]
RWAR! *Activates anti-stab* Hard luck tbh Spaced Skunk is right they woulda killed you anyway
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S34ghz
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:37:00 -
[127]
He said he selfdestructed for the loot. I am not sure about the loosmail when selfdestructing and i dont want to google for Bellis killboard, but when the lossmail is in there i would believe him....
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Aleric Vikyz
Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:37:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Aleric Vikyz on 23/06/2007 11:36:36 As pathetic as faking a killmail is, they did cause your death. Maybe you can forward them your lossmail so that their killboard is more accurate?
Speaking of pathetic, how about all those killboards showing up with Shrike's Titan on it and a Rifter or Scorp in the top five for damage? (KOS, anyone?)
P.S. When you self-destruct, do you get a lossmail? I don't know, I've always gone down like a man.
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 11:45:21 Faking killmails should be dealt with a kicking OR a warning and kicking on second offence. Corps that get cought with their hands in the cookiejar (faking mails) looses all killboard-credability and might aswell shut down their site tbh.
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Bishman82
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:52:00 -
[130]
Bit gutted i missed out on that kill, logged on 30 minutes too late i think.
I can't comment if the ship was actually blown up or self destructed - i wasn't there. If it isn't genuine i still think it's perfectly acceptable for it to be on the killboard, the board exists to show stats of our kills and losses, so just because someone admitted defeat and pressed the self destruct button we should just pretend it never happened? I don't think so!
I know it's part of the game to be able to self destruct, but doing this just to stop others from getting a killmail is almost as bad as quitting the game to escape a camp.
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ImmortaL ZoorZ
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.23 11:53:00 -
[131]
Fake killmail is very lame |
Joseph Morjuet
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.06.23 12:05:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 11:45:21 Faking killmails should be dealt with a kicking OR a warning and kicking on second offence. Corps that get cought with their hands in the cookiejar (faking mails) looses all killboard-credability and might aswell shut down their site tbh.
The killboard is there so that we may have a reference to our kills; we're not looking for your approval, and we sure as hell are not concerned if you, or anyone else, declines us credibility for our kills. The mail was posted as a reference for our corp, not anyone else.
Furthermore, the carrier self-destructed in structure and would have been ended very soon had he not.
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.06.23 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 12:20:19
Originally by: Joseph Morjuet
Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 11:45:21 Faking killmails should be dealt with a kicking OR a warning and kicking on second offence. Corps that get cought with their hands in the cookiejar (faking mails) looses all killboard-credability and might aswell shut down their site tbh.
The killboard is there so that we may have a reference to our kills; we're not looking for your approval, and we sure as hell are not concerned if you, or anyone else, declines us credibility for our kills.
Good. Then gtfo of this thread and let people post about your faulty killboard in peace.
I for one will never take any statistics fro your board seriously in the future. Heard very little about you guys before but from now on i'll automaticly connect Racketeers with untrustworthiness and pathetic methods.
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Spaced Skunk
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.23 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 12:20:19
Originally by: Joseph Morjuet
Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 11:45:21 Faking killmails should be dealt with a kicking OR a warning and kicking on second offence. Corps that get cought with their hands in the cookiejar (faking mails) looses all killboard-credability and might aswell shut down their site tbh.
The killboard is there so that we may have a reference to our kills; we're not looking for your approval, and we sure as hell are not concerned if you, or anyone else, declines us credibility for our kills.
Good. Then gtfo of this thread and let people post about your faulty killboard in peace.
I for one will never take any statistics fro your board seriously in the future. Heard very little about you guys before but from now on i'll automaticly connect Racketeers with untrustworthiness and pathetic methods.
Bellicose admitted he was dying to them, and picked the cowardly way out as to not give his killers loot and self destructed. You dont get killmails from self destruction either.
If it was me, I think I would want some written proof, the kill was legit and this thread proves it...your sticking up for someone who self destructed because he made a mistake and paid for it.
Its not a FAKE killmail, he was going to die, and the carrier pilot couldnt deal with the fact that his loot would be given away to his killers, or the fact that his killers would get proof he died (which becomes more legible after his moaning about 'faking a mail'). Rackteers could have requested a mail from the GMs but there would be none apparent, because of bad mechanics.
Bellicose...the mail isnt fake in my opinion, Racketeers caused you to lose your Carrier, get over it.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.23 12:53:00 -
[135]
Of course the mail is fake. you created it and it has modules he can't use so of course it's fake.
Whether you should have posted it or not is down to your corp and what you agree with but imo if you were gonna post it you shouldn't have made up all the modules from what's basically guess work.
Personally i wouldn't have made it up but that's just me.
DE
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Faekurias
Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.23 12:57:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Freddy Jnr On a serious note - We did NOT fake that killmail. As a member of Racketeers, I'm sure my word isn't good enough for anyone but just putting it out there.
But what ARE you doing in a carrier with those drone skills? Sorry - What WERE you doing in a carrier?
Don't be silly. That killmail in no way reflects his skills , conclusion = fake killmail. Take a look at facts before trying to convince people, thank you :) *snip* Signature removed, bodily function jokes are not appropriate for this forum. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Bellicose
Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.23 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Eratem Edited by: Eratem on 23/06/2007 06:04:50 OK... i wasn't involved in the carrier kill but the way i see it if you self destructed because of one of our gangs then in my mind it counts as a kill since you lost your ship...you are just a guy who is ****ed at losing a carrier... and another thing how can you not be able to use heavy 2's and yet be in a carrier... it seems to me that a person getting into a carrier would have better drone skills.
Yeah iam ****ed at losing carrier, i went straigth to dying my hair black,started listening to Evanescence,writing crappy poetry and cutting myself and being generaly emo..... well not really ill get a new carrier at some point
Better droneskills yeah would be nice but TBH the way use the carrier its more of a sort of remote repping support for gate camps and mobile depot for ammo/loot/booster charges and stuff. and theres no way in hell iam trowing tech II drones at ppl at a gate cus the sentryes will eat em, hence its rather unimportant if i can use ogres II or not
Originally by: Kyp Rodan HAHAHAHAHA
you mustve been worried when your looked at the killboards
: )
AHHAHAHAHA
Yeah i got so worried they sent me on prozac pills
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Classy. Someone self destructs their carrier because they can't cope with the e-peen loss of being killed whilst gate camping in a capital ship. The attackers then fake the killmail because they can't cope with being denied the e-peen enhancement. Ladies and gents, get a grip.
would recommend you send them a copy of it immediately.
Cant send a mail i never got the only official notice i got was the mail from the insurance with my money, And for the E-Peen part... mate iwe lost so many ships in my eve time that one +/- wouldet do anything in the statistics the only reason i blew the ship up was cus i dident want to leave any loot behind.
Originally by: Freddy Jnr On a serious note - We did NOT fake that killmail. As a member of Racketeers, I'm sure my word isn't good enough for anyone but just putting it out there.
But what ARE you doing in a carrier with those drone skills? Sorry - What WERE you doing in a carrier?
Yes you did... and what iam i doing in a carrier with those skills? ... i was gatecamping where you generaly dont use fancy tech2 drones but just sit there and support your gang/fleet members with remote armor reppers
Originally by: Sku1ly Would've been amusing if Davlin and his Wyvern had got you the other day - shame he had to change points to deal with support.
Yeah that was a epic battle shame i dident have same kinda backup this time then id still be flying my carrier
Originally by: Joseph Morjuet
The killboard is there so that we may have a reference to our kills; we're not looking for your approval, and we sure as hell are not concerned if you, or anyone else, declines us credibility for our kills. The mail was posted as a reference for our corp, not anyone else.
Furthermore, the carrier self-destructed in structure and would have been ended very soon had he not.
i call bull**** on that one all killboards are to show off not only yours i never liked the idea when ppl first started using em...
and if you think i dont think that your corp was responsable for the carrier kill weathernot i blew it or not read the first post i made again
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Irob Urore
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Posted - 2007.06.23 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Irob Urore on 23/06/2007 13:34:50
Originally by: Eratem Edited by: Eratem on 23/06/2007 06:04:50 OK... i wasn't involved in the carrier kill but the way i see it if you self destructed because of one of our gangs then in my mind it counts as a kill since you lost your ship...you are just a guy who is ****ed at losing a carrier... and another thing how can you not be able to use heavy 2's and yet be in a carrier... it seems to me that a person getting into a carrier would have better drone skills.
How can you condone faking killmails? Proves what the rackateers are about, i think people in future will doubt any kills posted on your board, well done.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.23 13:48:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Setana Manoro on 23/06/2007 13:51:40
Originally by: Eratem Edited by: Eratem on 23/06/2007 06:04:50 OK... i wasn't involved in the carrier kill but the way i see it if you self destructed because of one of our gangs then in my mind it counts as a kill since you lost your ship...you are just a guy who is ****ed at losing a carrier... and another thing how can you not be able to use heavy 2's and yet be in a carrier... it seems to me that a person getting into a carrier would have better drone skills.
1 - you don't need any kind of T2 Drones to have a carrier and fighters, heck you can have Scout Drone Operation at level 1 even. :) 2 - if he was actually pirating near a stargate, sentries have this very nasty way of popping drones, which gets very very expensive after a while if you use T2's. Now considering that your post was smack - can be smack and brains but it was just smack and a pretty sig, I'd like to say that I am amazed how your corp managed to take down a carrier, apparently Luck is a major factor in EVE, sometimes outweighing competence and intelligence. :) ---
Adopt a goon today, goons need lub and support too. Do you want him out in the cold, starving ? |
Tony Benn
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Posted - 2007.06.23 14:10:00 -
[140]
In truth, when posting the fabricated mail you should have not posted any modules on it, but just the ship itself as that was all you could be sure of.
Quote: from now on [I'll automatically] connect Racketeers with untrustworthiness and pathetic methods.
Dude, they're called Racketeers. What exactly do you expect?
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Lavraen
Minmatar Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.06.23 14:27:00 -
[141]
Well the capsule killmail is certainly not a fake...
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Amber Dakle
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Posted - 2007.06.23 15:01:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Joseph Morjuet
Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 23/06/2007 11:45:21 Faking killmails should be dealt with a kicking OR a warning and kicking on second offence. Corps that get cought with their hands in the cookiejar (faking mails) looses all killboard-credability and might aswell shut down their site tbh.
The killboard is there so that we may have a reference to our kills; we're not looking for your approval, and we sure as hell are not concerned if you, or anyone else, declines us credibility for our kills. The mail was posted as a reference for our corp, not anyone else.
Furthermore, the carrier self-destructed in structure and would have been ended very soon had he not.
Maybe if you had added a disclaimer to the killmail stating the pilot initiated self-destruct you would have saved yourself all the flak you're taking now? I little bit of honesty can only be good for a corps rep
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Freddy Jnr
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.06.23 15:30:00 -
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Ok. I have heard since my last post (edited now) that the mail is fake. Personally, I wouldn't have done it but so f**king what if someone has?
I don't care if people are "not taking our killboard seriously", cos it's not there to impress anyone in the first place. It's OUR killboard and if people in our corp want to write killmails for people who choose to self-destruct then they are welcome.
In my opinion, self-destructing is more the issue here than the killmail. I'm surprised so many people are so offended by this killmail business. This is only a game remember kids!
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Mysdora
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Posted - 2007.06.23 16:08:00 -
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This "only for our own reference" defense isn't very credible considering this whole thing was (according to OP) discovered due to your corp member advertising the killboard link in local chat. Also, why would you fake unnecessary items on the mail if it's only for "bookkeeping"? Isn't that self-deception?
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Seamus Rooke
Minmatar Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.06.23 16:40:00 -
[145]
Sad on the fake killboard posting, I would suspect if it was there only for Racketeer reference it would be a private board
On the whole self-destruct thing, hell yea I'd SD too. If I buy a ship and fit it - I sure as **** would blow it up if I wanted to. Gate camps are the best place to SD (provided you can survive long enough), I mean if they are too lazy to hunt for their prey why should they be rewarded with loot? No e-peen involved
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TEHBLINDMAN
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Posted - 2007.06.23 16:46:00 -
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i will always post a fake killmail if npcs/sentries get the killmail, as long as you do a good estimate based off the loot in the can i see nothing wrong with it at all..
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.23 20:11:00 -
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SDing is fine.
Faking a killmail is teh ghey.
I think what you guys don't understand why its so bad is you tried to make it look like it was a harder fight than it was. Showing mods he wasn't capable of using etc.
Meanwhile, our Beet production is in full swing. We should have the first shipment ready to go soon.
Please do not fall for shoddy turnip merchandise.
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.06.23 20:14:00 -
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Quote: Its not a FAKE killmail, he was going to die
They lacked the firepower to blow him up before he could selfdestruct. If that's not a valid point, should we all post mails of targets that wouldn't have escaped if we had flown a bit faster targets that would have died if we had fitted an extra scrambler targets that would have died if their backup never came pods that would have died if didn't log
The list goes on and on. Post what you OR you allies gets in you inbox or live with the fact of having a faulty killboard.
... targets that would've died if they had flown into our gatecamp.
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Celvice Klein
The Hand Trade Alliance FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.23 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Celvice Klein on 23/06/2007 20:49:02 Edited by: Celvice Klein on 23/06/2007 20:48:25 I see y'all have been making lots of friends, eh Freddy?
Nice capital kill.
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Dionisius
Gallente Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.06.23 21:06:00 -
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The real noobs are the guys that faked the killmail. You tanked them until you went boom, so s***w it. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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