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Heun zero
Aegis Evolution
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:47:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Just be aware that the incursion runners keep an eye on the mom site and will likely blacklist anyone in an non approved mom busting fleet.
This is most definetly one of the arrogant things i've seen the eve community do in my 4 years of experience. I know it's a way of protecting your income, but to me it seems like people act out of some form of Self-righteousness because they think they incursions belong to them somehow. And someone else doesnt have the right to kill their mom.....
I'm oneof the players who rides the incursion train to more riches then i've seen before in my eve life and I think vanguards should get nerfed because of that.
The idea the original poster has sounds like a decent one to me though. But as others have posted before me this idea needs action not just forum posts, otherwise you're doing exactly what all the rest is doing, just cry about incursions needing a nerf while you ould take matters in your own hand.
So OP if you or anyone else wants to organise a group of ppl to kill a mom and cut incursions short, send me a mail we'll get some work done.
Only problem I see with this is that you also affect scout/assault and HQ sites, which are'nt (as) inbalanced as the vanguard sites |
Heun zero
Aegis Evolution
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Posted - 2012.01.08 12:07:00 -
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Like in all the nerf the incursion threads I've read this threat has a lot of exaggeration, especially when people start comparing different scources of income to each other. This only leads to unbelievable cases and escalating arguments...
What CCP has been trying to do for years is get more people to move in to low sec /null space. The main way of doing this is making it more profitable. Incursions were intended as a stepping stone towards this by getting people together in a fleet that more resembles the real fleets that are out there in non high sec space.
The fact that people are actually returning to high sec because incursions pay so wel for so little risk, to me is proof enough that it's not balanced.
One has only to look at the incursions itself to see where the problem lies. Vanguard sites are swamped with players while doing any assault or HQ sites you have little competition. To me all this makes it obvious that vangaurds should be reviewed and (slightly) nerfed in some way |
Heun zero
Aegis Evolution
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Posted - 2012.01.08 18:57:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:Like in all the nerf the incursion threads I've read this threat has a lot of exaggeration, especially when people start comparing different scources of income to each other. This only leads to unbelievable cases and escalating arguments...
Cambarus wrote:
We're talking about top of the pack fleets here. 3 minutes from payout to payout is certainly doable. (back when I was soloing the sites with my vindi I could clear an NCO in 6 from payout to payout)
now 3 mins from pay out to pay out seems to be a bit of an overstatement to me, although I'm sure someone could produce a video of it being done in 3 mins. But soloing sites in a vindi.... Dont think it can be done let alone in 6 minutes.
besides that your argument is that the only objective way to compare things is to use their absolute peak, that is untrue though.
It is far better to compare the average of what people actually do make instead of what theoretically could be made under perfect cicrumstances. There are many factors that can disrupt the perfect circumstances, and you're not taking these into account when comparing only the absolute peak.
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