I make bad posts that no one reads.

The isk income in null sec right now is too high, especially for the lol risk that is involved when you don't see hostile for weeks on end. Unfortunately, you seem to think that moon goo is "risk."

Don't worry, CCP isn't going to change moon goo and sanctum farmers, way too risky right now. That doesn't mean the situation is right. It just means that CCP screwed up so bad for so long that angering nullbears now would be bad business.

Goose your post implies I care about sanctums or moon goo

protip: I don't

Ok. Lets take a step back.

You are saying that in order to limit the isk flow, we have the ability to kill the mom. Ok. I now accept that incursions are balanced and they should stay as they are.

In that case, I propose sanctums should get an isk/hr boost that would equate to about 500 mil/hr. If you don't like it, you can just kill the ratters, thus limiting the isk flow the same way you have told the rest of us we can limit incursion isk flow.

Thats balanced right?

In none of those posts maybe. Did you bother to read anything else?

The isk income in high sec right now is too high, especially for the lol risk that is involved. Unfortunately, you seem to think that players sucking at the game and the possibility of someone killing the mom is "risk."

You don't need to kill ratters to stop them making isk, just scare them.

A single cloaking ship flying around systems with a cyno and a black ops fleet of bombers nearby will make all the bots POS up and bears crap their pants frantically.

I'd say that's just as much effort as it'd take to go out and kill a mom ship to end the farming.

So yeah, nerf incursions or boost sanctums.

By your own logic ....

I rather suspect that the OP is running nullsec bots 23/7 and is utterly jelous that others have found a way to earn similar ammounts of isk.

The concepts of logic and salazar do not belong in the same sentence, except with a negative interposed.
Salazar is a veteran troll and seems to gain pleasure from stringing people along with abuse and nonsense. In that he is quite adept. In producing meaningful discussion and argument ... well ... some of his posts occasionally appear to make sense.

By your own logic incursions should pay out exactly the same as sanctums, which would entail a nerf to sanctums, not a buff.

I guess that works if you like being a biased moron

Except that null sec should always pay more hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I agree that group play should be rewarded. The simple fact is, the amount of reward they offer in high sec is stupidly high (the potential).

Tell me again why it would be so horrible if incursion farmers had to go to low sec to do their thing?

And that's not even counting moon goo.

Moon goo is in the game to 1. generate fights and 2. pay for alliance level stuff (sov, reimbursements, capitals, etc). It is not a personal isk revenue (unless you're in PL). This is a good thing. As jealous as high sec players seem to be of the "passive isk" that is moon goo, its not the personal isk generator as they seem to think, and this is a good thing.

Moon goo is a good thing because that particular passive isk faucet is used by wise and noble people for wise and noble purposes, but incursion isk faucet is a bad things because .... ummm .... because??? Dang, I forgot that again.

Incursions are working as CCP intended, and they're working very well. Thousands of people are engaging with incursions, in a wide variety of ways. They're not broken and are not in need of being 'fixed'.

Everything aside, I would love to know what bears think moon goo isk is used for.

Moon goo is in the game to 1. generate fights and 2. pay for alliance level stuff (sov, reimbursements, capitals, etc). It is not a personal isk revenue (unless you're in PL). This is a good thing. As jealous as high sec players seem to be of the "passive isk" that is moon goo, its not the personal isk generator as they seem to think, and this is a good thing.

Now, I agree with you that group pve should be encouraged and I want to see more of it in high sec as well. However, incursions, IMO were implemented horribly. The raw isk generation they are capable of for little to no risk (seriously that pve risk thing is a joke and anyone who argues it should feel bad for even suggesting it is) is silly.

Don't worry though, as I've said before, your safe isk farm isn't going to be touched. CCP wouldn't dare threaten their bottom line like that right now.

Ok. Lets take a step back.

You are saying that in order to limit the isk flow, we have the ability to kill the mom. Ok. I now accept that incursions are balanced and they should stay as they are.

In that case, I propose sanctums should get an isk/hr boost that would equate to about 500 mil/hr. If you don't like it, you can just kill the ratters, thus limiting the isk flow the same way you have told the rest of us we can limit incursion isk flow.

Thats balanced right?

As far as the potential goes, you're looking at maybe 120 an hour doing sites in highsec. Go to lowsec, and the higher payouts combined with far less competition means it should be viable to get 300 with a zealot/legion fleet. That's a pretty damn big difference.

Don't flatter yourself. Just as the whining losers who complain about all the "big bad alliances" out in null sec you should do something about it instead of whining like a little *****.

Think the care bears in their ships worth more than your crappy carriers are gonna do something about someone doing a mom site to stop their isk flow? Hell no, that's why they'd rather blacklist than gank. Unlike your pathetic scenario, it's a lot easier to stop them. You have concord protecting you for christs' sake. Oh, I forgot. You'd rather complain on forums instead of doing anything like the rest of reddit. It's ok bro, I wont judge.

I don't think this is the first time you've made this claim, and it's not more right this time.
120 m/hr in highsec is a decent Legion fleet only running NCOs. It assumes 5 minute per site including the warp, it means you never lose when you contest. If you're making that much ISK in highsec then competition isn't a factor, because it's a number that assumes the competition are irrelevant.

In lowsec you get 15m per site, so 12 NCOs per hour (same as highsec) would be 180 m/hr, not 300. If you only get NCOs that 180 m/hr is easy to reach, but because there are no fleets clearing out the NMCs and OTAs you will get a ton of those which will reduce your ISK/hr by quite a bit. With lucky spawns you're gonna get 150 m/hr, on average it's less than that. Furthermore the mothership is not usually killed. It is sometimes, but you can't count on getting your LP from a lowsec Incursion.

Now, I still think it's fine because in practice very few fleets get 120 m/hr in highsec so my average of maybe 140 m/hr (I'll have to check) is actually alright with me.