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Nola Doyle
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.07.10 07:23:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Revy Daidros
I don't care in what application you use these "acts of creation". You are stripping them of everything it means to be human. For that you should be held accountable.
How have I stripped a lifeless corpse of its humanity?
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Ashturi Nagano
Mantigen Quanta
Ultio Animi Causa
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Posted - 2007.07.10 12:28:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Ashturi Nagano on 10/07/2007 12:33:58
Originally by: Nola Doyle
Originally by: Revy Daidros
I don't care in what application you use these "acts of creation". You are stripping them of everything it means to be human. For that you should be held accountable.
How have I stripped a lifeless corpse of its humanity?
Perhaps I misunderstand. Are you saying that these clones are dead? I viewed the entire previous transmission that your quote was taken from, and I saw no mention of anything being dead.
While I neither oppose nor support slavery (it is a means to an end), I believe that dead clones would not be very useful, except to instruct new doctors. Unless, of course, we use them in the manner which you seem to have supported: as foodstuffs. Personally, I shy away from cannibalism, but you Gallente are so...uninhibited.
As to the Jovians' cloak, I would be much obliged if you could provide me with a reference document. An encounter log, official study, etc. While I do not doubt the veracity of your statement, I have not seen such information, and am understandably curious.
Despite this, I believe that the Phase Cloak IS a breakthrough, not because it improves current cloaking technology, but the way in which it is said to do so: by bending the universe. Which is (I hope you will excuse the expression) very cool. The Jovians' cloak that you have mentioned is merely a very GOOD cloak, rather than an entirely new application of quantum physics.
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Nola Doyle
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.07.10 13:40:00 -
[33]
*sighs annoyedly*
Do try to keep up with the conversation if you intend to interject yourself. You've already lost any modicum of dignity with your ludicrous racist commentary. Allow me to spell it out for your primitive mind: Clones begin as cadavers. These cadavers are genetically altered to emulate the physical characteristics of their host. Lifeless husks can't be stripped of their humanity because they have none.
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Ashturi Nagano
Mantigen Quanta
Ultio Animi Causa
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Posted - 2007.07.10 17:26:00 -
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I am quite sorry if you believe that I was being racist. I did not mean to offend, merely to comment on a characteristic of Gallente that I have noticed. I do not know if any Gallente engage in cannibalism, I merely contend that I would not be surprised if it was discovered that some had, merely because it's "Different." The Gallentian openness to different ideas is one of their strengths, after all.
As to the cadavers business, I had forgotten that some use cadavers. As a somewhat weak moral stand, I insist that only non-human biomass be used for my clones. Occasionally, I am required to pay extra for it.
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Trisha Veyron
Caldari
Dirtside
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:50:00 -
[35]
We, the spectators, are allowed to vote, yes? I didn't see any words to the contrary so I will cast my vote on #5, the cloaking device. Not only is it intriguing, it seems to be the invention with less potential for being twisted into vile applications.
Trisha Veyron. |
Revy Daidros
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.13 13:38:00 -
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My vote goes to #3:
Persephone | Keopa
Such technology would bring us one step closer to an awfully powerful reconnaissance platform. When traveling through unsecured space, intelligence gathering means the difference between life and certain death.
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Chase Starbright
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.13 14:30:00 -
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*smirks* I like the one with the clones. I vote #7.
Chase. |
Lillith Blackheart
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.07.13 15:14:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Trisha Veyron
We, the spectators, are allowed to vote, yes? I didn't see any words to the contrary so I will cast my vote on #5, the cloaking device. Not only is it intriguing, it seems to be the invention with less potential for being twisted into vile applications.
Are you so sure? Imagine a missile, it needent even have a payload, that phases out of reality much as that cloak intends to work, until it reaches its target, upon which time it phases back into reality inside the targetted ship.
Your cloning apparatus in your pod would not even have time to react as suddenly you were physically fused with the object's molecules.
Seems more threatening than most of the others to me, just as an aside.
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Trisha Veyron
Caldari
Dirtside
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Posted - 2007.07.17 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lillith Blackheart
Seems more threatening than most of the others to me, just as an aside.
I wasn't talking about threatening; I was talking about vileness. My vote stands. Despite the fact that war is indeed a nasty, horrid occupation I still see more potential for vileness in such manipulation of cloning and genes as is going on in Dr. Doyle's project.
Trisha Veyron. |
Boma Airaken
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.07.17 23:58:00 -
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My vote goes to #3, Persephone.
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Kendar Zek
Gallente
Interstellar Aid Society
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Posted - 2007.07.18 00:38:00 -
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My vote is cast to DopplegangerÖ. I would be most delighted to invest in further research of this nature, in which I may have a vested interest. |
Lillith Blackheart
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.07.18 07:15:00 -
[42]
As you all know, these are the inventions currently up for vote in the first annual Inventors Summit.
1. Graviton Resonance Device | APEX Conglomerate
2. Laser Defense System (LDS) | APEX Conglomerate
3. Persephone | Keopa
4. Living Death | Irias Salo, Dr.
5. Induced Phase Cloak | State Security and Intelligence (Project Independent from APEX Conglomerate)
6. Precision Rapid Component Assembly Array (PRCAA) | Khanid Aerospace Group
7. Doppleganger | NeuroGEN
Sadly, those votes cast after the 15th of this month are not accepted due to the statutes given at the beginning of the Summit period.
The votes are tallied as follows:
1. Apex Conglomerate's Gravity Resonance Device - 1 Vote. I must agree with that individual that this is a most fascinating study.
2. Apex Conglomerate's Laser Defense System - 0 Votes.
3 Keopa's "Persephone" Project - 1 Vote.
4 Dr. Salo's "Living Death" Project - 1 Vote. Dr. Salo, I must admit I am most interested in this work, and I suspect Nola may be as well, perhaps we can work together in the future.
5. State Security and Intelligence's Induced Phasing Cloak - 1 Vote. If successful, this will completely revolutionize combat, best of luck in its construction.
6. Khanid Aerospace Group's Precision Rapid Component Assembly Array (PRCAA) - 0 Votes.
7. NeuroGEN's own Project "Doppleganger" - 2 Votes.
On behalf of NeuroGEN Research and Development, I graciously thank all those who voted for our project and gave it the meritous acceptance that it so well deserves. I can not, however, directly accept this, as without the rather brilliant mind of Dr. Nola Doyle, Project "Doppleganger" would never have been thought of, much less realized.
Thank you, Nola, for all you have done and continue to do for this Corporation.
All projects listed herein are excellent projects, and all those involved should be commended for their continued efforts to advance the capabilities of Mankind. Do not be discouraged, and please continue these projects, and we await the new and interesting prototypes and inventions in next year's Inventor's Summit.
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Trisha Veyron
Caldari
Dirtside
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lillith Blackheart
5. State Security and Intelligence's Induced Phasing Cloak - 1 Vote. If successful, this will completely revolutionize combat, best of luck in its construction.
*frowns* Excuse me, I demand a recount. I seem to remember seeing two votes cast for this project: Mr Nagano's and my own. And I also seem to remember we both voted before the deadline. I would like to know what happened to my vote, is all.
Trisha Veyron. |
Lillith Blackheart
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.07.19 01:36:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Trisha Veyron
Originally by: Lillith Blackheart
5. State Security and Intelligence's Induced Phasing Cloak - 1 Vote. If successful, this will completely revolutionize combat, best of luck in its construction.
*frowns* Excuse me, I demand a recount. I seem to remember seeing two votes cast for this project: Mr Nagano's and my own. And I also seem to remember we both voted before the deadline. I would like to know what happened to my vote, is all.
Trisha Veyron.
Why you are correct, it seems there was a miscount. I did not see your vote in there, and I directly apologize for that and thusly revise that to showing a tie, then, betwixt NeuroGEN's Project "Doppleganger" and the State Security's Induced Phasing Cloak. My apologies, for it seems I misread the date, I would simply edit the above post to correct that, though that would be... less than honest of me.
Ms. Veyron, thank you for pointing that one out.
I have gone through the list a third time, and it seems that that is, in all actuality, the only vote that I had missed in my first counts.
How I missed that twice is beyond me.
....I think I need to fire my secretary.
.......out of a cannon.
............into a sun.
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.07.31 21:25:00 -
[45]
This was an interesting expirement. Has anything become of this? Are there others more interested in the process now. I somehow missed it, and by the voting turnout many others did. A pity to see a small representation of votes.
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