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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Farscape Hw on 24/06/2007 01:49:16
ive been putting togather a new movie over the last 2 months or so. attempting to have some good fleet battles in it. but im having more and more problems even loading the battlefield everytime we engage.
the more things that are being added to eve, the worse the lag is becoming.
i thought i would just share this experience with you guys. after having a half way decent lagfest where we wtfowned sparta and friends in deklein... we were on our way back towards venal and heard of a gang chasing us. but we kept on moving, and i got scrambled by a thorax and taranis on the jump in. we all hit our mwd's and instapopped the rannis, put our guns on the thorax. a stabber decloaked and started burning to me, an obvious next target. but the thorax's shields were not taking damage even with the logs showing them doing so. i got the thorax killmail but he was still there on my screen. i decided to turn on fraps at this point,
heres the rest of the story.
20 vs 20 vs CCP
very short clip, only 7 MB
notice the damage logs coming up on my screen with no one even locking me. some being drones...
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 24/06/2007 01:52:34
Welcome to the "new EVE". 
In the "new EVE," system lag is completely independent of the number of people in local.  
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Lister Black
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:04:00 -
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Not sure when this happened to you, but if this was only a few hours ago, there was a pretty huge battle only a few systems away from where you were. If you were unlucky enough to engage as this was happening you might've just caught the tail-end of that lagfest.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:44:00 -
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This has been happening for a while now and is completly independent of patches and downtime for various reasons.
 Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Farscape Hw on 24/06/2007 04:15:14
double post sry
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Farscape Hw
Originally by: Lister Black
Not sure when this happened to you, but if this was only a few hours ago, there was a pretty huge battle only a few systems away from where you were. If you were unlucky enough to engage as this was happening you might've just caught the tail-end of that lagfest.
about this time yesterday actually. and i find it ironic that right about the time i decide to make this post, the servers go down again.
ccp i think i speak for most of your player base when i say that this game has reached a point where quality > quanity.
giving us a load of new laggy crap to play with to take our attention away from the already laggy old crap sucks. we would like the current laggy crap to become less laggy. please.
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Central Scrutinizer
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Central Scrutinizer on 24/06/2007 05:02:07
Yes, it is pretty impossible.
The most important tactical goal now is pre-loading a grid. Landing before your enemy does.
Jumping into a gate camp is suicide, through and through.
Our alliance can't even have our 'fun' gimmick fleets work, anymore.
Edit: Changed "strategic" to "tactical"
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ThunderGodThor
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: ThunderGodThor on 24/06/2007 08:27:38
Yep pretty much. If you ant on jita super node heres lag. And even then its iffy. Eve truly has been digrading in terms of playblity ever since cold wars patch. 40v40 was a lag fest. now we cant even get 20v20. All of the older players at the time talked bout how ya we got 50v50 100v100 with little lag and it was great yata yata yata.
All of these "optimzations" havent done any thing to stem the lag. It feels more like its a client/server problem in that i think the server either stops sending pactets in a resalbe fastion or the client cant hadle or stops accepting them. That is what it feels like but i do not have any bassis on this tho.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 11:39:00 -
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Same fight different perspective
notice my speed is 1100 m/s without mwd
people shooting at random spots in space
unable to lock anything
local never went above 50
thats the second ship i've ever petitioned the loss of, hope i get it reembursed :-(
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taylor04
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.24 11:39:00 -
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well i have to agree.. though i love eve its pathetic to say the least. i dont come out station to much due to the fact solo pvp is dead... and 4 vs 4 nvm 20 vs 20 is laggy..
so ccp need to stop and pull there finger out there hoops....
hi mom /o\ 
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StarLite
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.24 22:23:00 -
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As said before, there was probably a big fight going on in another system on the same server node as you were on. Nothing you can do about it really, just bad luck.
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ThunderGodThor
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: StarLite
As said before, there was probably a big fight going on in another system on the same server node as you were on. Nothing you can do about it really, just bad luck.
Prob is its every fight just about unless its a gank. Doesnt matter where or when.. alot of the time it does help on who it is but your in bob after all. So you wouldnt really know much what we are talking about.
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MacDuncan
Minmatar
Asgard Schiffswerften
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.06.25 06:47:00 -
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the day before that docking with 10k hardened armor resulted in this:
2007.06.23 00:13:10 Notify Docking operation already in progress.Estimated time left: 20 seconds.
For app. 1min. and than i popped...at least my pod was docked after relogging to get the client respond properly. 
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:21:00 -
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had similar problems to the op, mine are related to vista and the moving of the cache file I believe, any of you guys with similar sync up problems on vista as well?
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Sairait
Amarr
47R
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:15:00 -
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Bad luck probably, as was mentioned in previous posts ...
I have the opposite experience - I've been recently going through my old frapsed footage, and realized how much smoother the EvE is for me lately in the standart gang/fleet situations. Similar battles with similar amount of people are playable for me now, while in the past - I used to have 5+ seconds lags on modules activations and ship reactions.
The ND4SPD initiative certainly has a positive effect for me and is objectivly noticable if I compare past and present footage.
But of course weird stuff, desync and lag still happens here and there, and you've just been unfortunate to have the battle in a bad time and bad spot.
/Sairait
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Lowa
Gallente
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:34:00 -
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I need to look at this but I also know that this is "just how it is". Sucks? Yes it does.
However, lately I dont have a problem with lag, we faught BRUCE some weeks ago, 170ppl in local
and we were around 100-110 duking it out on a gate, drones and fighters in the air.
Ship and modules responded instantly (I didnt even realized that until about half way through) becuase
of my "new" problem, FPS. I had about 5-8 fps at best, even zoomed out, and having "action zoom" with
my ship visible and stuff it was 1-3 fps with freeze's every 2minutes or so. Never had that before.
However, I DO believe we are on the right track, it was a huge patch, let them tweak it for a month
or so and we'll see how it goes (yes, its a long time, yes it should have been done before but its
summer time, get out and bbq your pale white joke of a body, I know I am.  )
Cheers,
Lowa
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:00:00 -
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Quit being a noob and get a real internet connection farscape.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.26 07:34:00 -
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petitioned the loss (my second petition ever for a ship loss) and pointed GM's at this thread, and got told to stuff it
nice one ccp
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:28:00 -
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 That's messed up.
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Baldigan Joackim
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:39:00 -
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i've experimenced exactly the same thing.
Juming into a 10-15 gang.
I can't move, the visual is : i'm cloack.
I see other ship, but can't lock them, after reloggin it's fine, and i'm happy to NOT have been primary.
it really random.
And fps since rev II is horrible, 0.4 => 4 fps in large fleet (not obligatory battle)
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.27 03:39:00 -
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Farscape you play on dialup according to what you said on Burn Eden TS. . .
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Voltairia
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Posted - 2007.06.27 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
petitioned the loss (my second petition ever for a ship loss) and pointed GM's at this thread, and got told to stuff it
nice one ccp
Escalate it to a senior GM. I had a similar problem bnefore, and ur logs let laoen theirs show you should have been safely docked untill by the tiem you died. So keep escalatign it and fight it till you get you ship back.
Its a shame the GM's still suck as far as eevn when its not your fault you loose half ur mods anyway. Lazy GM's is all that is, dont let them get your ship too.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.06.27 11:18:00 -
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I've had the same issue since Rev2, even in L4 missions and (very) small gang situations - this thing where you start locking something, then it aborts, several times, as if the target was invulnerable (which it wasn't). I don't play on dialup, I have a very stable 1.5mbit/s connection.
this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.27 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Voltairia
Originally by: Gneeznow
petitioned the loss (my second petition ever for a ship loss) and pointed GM's at this thread, and got told to stuff it
nice one ccp
Escalate it to a senior GM. I had a similar problem bnefore, and ur logs let laoen theirs show you should have been safely docked untill by the tiem you died. So keep escalatign it and fight it till you get you ship back.
Its a shame the GM's still suck as far as eevn when its not your fault you loose half ur mods anyway. Lazy GM's is all that is, dont let them get your ship too.
I asked to have it escalated and i got the same response second time around, and at this stage i just couldnt be bothered arguing with a GM for the sake of a 24 mil cyclone + 20 mil fittings + 20 mil of loot that was in its hold when it was blown up, the ship is replacable, my faith in ccp isnt.
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