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Eudemus	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:31:54 Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:30:46 Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:29:28 I'm going to be training for a dread soon and wanted some input from dread pilots. I can fly Minmatar and Amarr ships so it would be fairly easy to go for a dread of either race. Issues I've been considering: 1) With Minmatar extra training time because of having to train guns and missles 2) Lack of variability in damage types for Amarr dread and popularity of Minmatar POS with high EM resistance 3) Questions about Minmatar tank and cap which seem limited compared with other dreads Input from pilots who have actually flown these ships would be helpful. Thanks.
Robet Katrix Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:37:00 - [2] Naglfar does more DMG. Much weaker tank. Revaltion tanks like a beast. bit lower DPS. No reloading, small cargo the EM vs. minnie POS is irrelevant as 90% of the time you will be one among many dreads. nag's are sexy but more skill intensive. its personal choice tbfh
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:54:00 - [3] Edited by: vanBuskirk on 25/06/2007 21:54:47 I suspect it depends on what you are going to do with it. The Revelation has the advantage of no ammo and a mean tank, so it may be the best for the main job of dreads - *****ing POS. The Naglfar has more gun mounts, thus possibly more DPS - but a poor tank. The Phoenix has enormous alpha strike, a good shield tank, plus the citadel explosions look cool. The Moros has a mixture of abilities; reasonable tank, reasonable damage, and it's probably (with its huge drone bonus) the best at defending itself from non-capital ships. However, I've never flown any of them, although my skills will be up to it in about a month. But I have been looking at the pros and cons quite closely. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:58:00 - [4] Originally by: vanBuskirk The Avatar has the advantage of no ammo and a mean tank, so it may be the best for the main job of dreads - *****ing POS. The avatar also have the advantage of an AoE alpha of 46k, and twice as many turrets as any other dread. And sweet gangbonuses - and as you say - a mean tank. =) Post count: 495728
enymphia M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.06.25 22:24:00 - [5] Originally by: NoNah and twice as many turrets as any other dread. and no siege mode so i guess 1 dread in siege do more dmg than 2 dreads without siege? ride ze lightning!
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 22:43:00 - [6] Originally by: enymphia Originally by: NoNah and twice as many turrets as any other dread. and no siege mode so i guess 1 dread in siege do more dmg than 2 dreads without siege? Funny, i thought the damage modifier brought up by the siege mode was 625%. :) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
king jks The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.26 01:01:00 - [7] Revelation tbh, its the best for POS warfare. Any use you can find for a moros would be better accomplished by a carrier.
Aerin Cloudfayr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 01:06:00 - [8] Originally by: king jks Revelation tbh, its the best for POS warfare. Any use you can find for a moros would be better accomplished by a carrier. that's a bit harsh though, aren't blasters the significantly better CQC turret though? /investigates
OPTICALACE Minmatar Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:28:00 - [9] yeah if blasters worked the moros would be the most wtf pwnage dread but sadly they only have a range of 12km and the smallest pos has a shield radius of 15km so you would have to use longer range ammo, cutting damage.
Singularity XX Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:21:00 - [10] The best dread is one that sieges. The rest is up to your personal preference and/or current skill set. --- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well.

vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:13:00 - [11] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: vanBuskirk The Avatar has the advantage of no ammo and a mean tank, so it may be the best for the main job of dreads - *****ing POS. The avatar also have the advantage of an AoE alpha of 46k, and twice as many turrets as any other dread. And sweet gangbonuses - and as you say - a mean tank. =) I'm impressed. I made that mistake, fixed it in less than 5 minutes - and you still managed to find it before it was fixed. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Eudemus Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:31:54 Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:30:46 Edited by: Eudemus on 25/06/2007 21:29:28 I'm going to be training for a dread soon and wanted some input from dread pilots. I can fly Minmatar and Amarr ships so it would be fairly easy to go for a dread of either race. Issues I've been considering: 1) With Minmatar extra training time because of having to train guns and missles 2) Lack of variability in damage types for Amarr dread and popularity of Minmatar POS with high EM resistance 3) Questions about Minmatar tank and cap which seem limited compared with other dreads Input from pilots who have actually flown these ships would be helpful. Thanks. Revelations tank is quite nice, and having been on many POS takedowns in both Amarr and Gallente dreads, I can tell you that not having to wait for guns to reload (and remember to turn them back on afterwards) is nice. When youve spent 30 hours in a week staring at hostile POS's while your blob shoots at them, being able to go afk for a couple minutes to fix a sandwich without your guns shutting off is golden.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:29:00 - [13] Train for whatever dread helps your battleship the most, because you are going to be flying that battleship most of the time. So if you fly a geddon get a revelation, the xl turrets help you get t2 lasers. If you fly mini, get a mini dread, should get you most of the skills for a t2 large guns and t2 torps. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Teani Gallente omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:30:00 - [14] Who ever said that a carrier can do better than a moros has blatently never flown one , your fighters will be killed far to easily , theyre too slow and too bugged, The pvp fit moros ie mag stabs 2 webs 2 sensor booster etc will serve you much better Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums -Darth Patches
Zhett Haukes Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:33:00 - [15] When it becomes time for me to train for a dread (long way off), I will be going for the Naglfar - for the single reason that it is F**CKING VERTICAL.
TheEndofTheWorld	Posted - 2007.06.26 17:35:00 - [16] moros and rev use cap
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:03:00 - [17] Originally by: Teani Who ever said that a carrier can do better than a moros has blatently never flown one , your fighters will be killed far to easily , theyre too slow and too bugged, The pvp fit moros ie mag stabs 2 webs 2 sensor booster etc will serve you much better Yeah if you really want to make life hell for anyone coming to pester your cap fleet, mix a pvp fitted moros with sentry drones in with the rest of your dreads, or on the gate with your support fleet. Any BS that happens to come out of warp within 60k of you is dead before he can realize his error and align to warp out.
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:06:00 - [18] I heard that if you use the Correct Dread, you can tank Templars, an amarrian fighter drone used by carriers.
Rane Javoke Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:10:00 - [19] Edited by: Rane Javoke on 26/06/2007 19:10:06 Originally by: Krulla I heard that if you use the Correct Dread, you can tank Templars, an amarrian fighter drone used by carriers. forced meme anyone? to the op, the most obvious advantages of the Naglfar are : 1. 20k wrecking shots in siege... sweeeeet 2. I T ' S V E R T I C A L
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:58:00 - [20] Originally by: OPTICALACE yeah if blasters worked the moros would be the most wtf pwnage dread but sadly they only have a range of 12km and the smallest pos has a shield radius of 15km so you would have to use longer range ammo, cutting damage. Exposed starbase defenses. Blasters will be wtfbbq.

Bazman Caldari Werda Fookarwii	Posted - 2007.06.26 20:15:00 - [21] Originally by: voogru Originally by: OPTICALACE yeah if blasters worked the moros would be the most wtf pwnage dread but sadly they only have a range of 12km and the smallest pos has a shield radius of 15km so you would have to use longer range ammo, cutting damage. Exposed starbase defenses. Blasters will be wtfbbq. Yeah, but they are going to be all around the perimeter of the shield, so most likely you're only going to be in range of some of the guns and the rest will be beyond your blaster range -----
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 20:20:00 - [22] Vertical dread wins.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 20:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Bazman Originally by: voogru Originally by: OPTICALACE yeah if blasters worked the moros would be the most wtf pwnage dread but sadly they only have a range of 12km and the smallest pos has a shield radius of 15km so you would have to use longer range ammo, cutting damage. Exposed starbase defenses. Blasters will be wtfbbq. Yeah, but they are going to be all around the perimeter of the shield, so most likely you're only going to be in range of some of the guns and the rest will be beyond your blaster range It's also good against other dreads.
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.06.27 10:17:00 - [24] Whoever has only placed a single shot on a pos would take the amarr drad and don't even think about the nag. Pos shooting, the main purpose of those things is so incredibly boring that you can read a book while doing it. If you do not need to change ammo for hours, that's the best you can get. It permatanks pos guns while doing it without problems too. I pew therefore I am.
Integrale	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:08:00 - [25] I think the best dread out there is the revelation. It is the most used, no ammo, awesome tank. If i had to pick a dread i would take the rev and to be honest the ship is so handsome :)


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