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Graanok Caldari The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2007.06.30 05:10:00 - [1] So I've been playing EVE for a couple years now, and I still haven't figured out just what is up with the Jovians. I know they're a fifth race, and that they are more advanced than the other races since they never crashed as a society after the Eden gate crashed, but I don't really know much else about them. Are they ever going to be a playable race? Is it possible to get some of their tech, and if not, is that ever going to change? What is going on with them in space? ------------------------------------------ A great man inspires others with what he can do. A great leader inspires others with what they can do.
Eric Lupanasia	Posted - 2007.06.30 05:19:00 - [2] The Magic 8-ball predicts that the official response will be: shakeshakeshake "Wait and see." ------------------- "There can be good done while profiting."
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.30 05:23:00 - [3] there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were, as for being a playable race.. i think CCP might do something like that even if it does remove Tomb's cool streak of being "the last jovian" :P they are the imba race.. the secret ones who have cruisers like battleships and battleships like dreads.. super cool like.
Graanok Caldari The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2007.06.30 05:29:00 - [4] Just read over the story again, apparently they made the first 3 Titan class ships... if their cruisers are like battleships and their battleships are like dreads... wtf are their Titans like? ------------------------------------------ A great man inspires others with what he can do. A great leader inspires others with what they can do.
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.30 05:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Graanok Just read over the story again, apparently they made the first 3 Titan class ships... if their cruisers are like battleships and their battleships are like dreads... wtf are their Titans like? gods:D
Valen L'eganas Gallente Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.30 06:27:00 - [6] In the beginning the Jovians where setup as a playable race in the future, but that was like 4 years ago. Something was mentioned players could 'evolve'to become Jovian. Nowadays I think its doubtful we could ever play as them, and they will likely serve as ingame storyboard fuel.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.06.30 06:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Graanok Just read over the story again, apparently they made the first 3 Titan class ships... if their cruisers are like battleships and their battleships are like dreads... wtf are their Titans like? "Thats no moon....." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engage brain before typing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.30 09:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Graanok Just read over the story again, apparently they made the first 3 Titan class ships... if their cruisers are like battleships and their battleships are like dreads... wtf are their Titans like? "Thats no moon....." as DDD starts "That things operational" ----------------------------------- remember this name devs Jaron D someday I'll be the head of your art department! or at least hold the position of coffee/animation intern guy sign
JabJabVVV Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.30 09:12:00 - [9] Edited by: JabJabVVV on 30/06/2007 09:10:46 Quote: Is it possible to get some of their tech IIRC the pod technology is (according to the backstory) meant to be Jovian ----------- When I was a n00b, I spake as a n00b, I understood as a n00b, I thought as a n00b: but when I became pr0, I put away n00bish things.
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.30 20:31:00 - [10] so are any one jovians, or what happen to those that chose that race when it was playable?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.30 20:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Graanok fifth race Anyone else flash back to O' Neill meeting the Asgard for the first time at this point? Anyway, you know most of what there is to know about the Jovians. They are so much more powerful that they could not be made playable without being nerfed into pointlessness. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
The Ratfink Itto-Ryu Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.06.30 21:18:00 - [12] ok theres two ways to view this from CCP's point of view its a carrot on a stick their dangling in front of you something to get people to play towards. On a RP point of view their a mysterious shadowy race who bought us the technology to control ships using pods. There is a higher puppet master out there trying to influence the rest of the empires and the jovians are trying to set things straight. As for who what when as i said CCP's carrot on stick if you could play them there no more carrot.
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.06.30 21:57:00 - [13] I find the Jove boring now actually, i'm much more interested in collecting information on their enemy. "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Cherybol Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.06.30 22:03:00 - [14] Seconded on information of their enemy. Those short stories are amazing and I'm waitng for something new to read.
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.30 22:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Graanok fifth race Anyone else flash back to O' Neill meeting the Asgard for the first time at this point? Anyway, you know most of what there is to know about the Jovians. They are so much more powerful that they could not be made playable without being nerfed into pointlessness. Given the skill requirements and (presumably) cost of the ships we know about, i'm not sure they pose that much of a balance problem (at least sub-bs). IIRC, you needed all racial ship skills at 5 to fly one (so all frigs to 5 for the frig, all cruiser to 5 for the cruiser) and they use missiles. they'd make great mission ships, but for pvp I'm not sure they'd be any better than the best relevant t2 ship of the same hull size, and very few pilots would ever be able to fly anything bigger than the cruiser. _____ Heat Warfare
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.30 22:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Fresh Prinz there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were The models are in. The devs have piloted them on occasion (Sharkbait uses them for his stress tests on sisi), and if you look at the bottom left of the most recent size chart, you can see them. But they're unbalanced though. Since they weren't rebalanced along with the rest of the ships when CCP boosted the HP, they're actually significantly worse than the playable race ships atm. If CCP ever open them up to the public, they'll have to completely redo them. --------
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.30 22:20:00 - [17] When BoB win EVE they will be opened to every non BoB player and given beating sticks to beat back the evil blob. Its about to begin....
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.30 22:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Fresh Prinz there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were The models are in. The devs have piloted them on occasion (Sharkbait uses them for his stress tests on sisi), and if you look at the bottom left of the most recent size chart, you can see them. But they're unbalanced though. Since they weren't rebalanced along with the rest of the ships when CCP boosted the HP, they're actually significantly worse than the playable race ships atm. If CCP ever open them up to the public, they'll have to completely redo them. I haven't seen an Ixion, Lynx, or Fury before -- are they in game? _____ Heat Warfare
Mindy Moobah Caldari Tech Five Giants	Posted - 2007.06.30 23:02:00 - [19] Caldari + fire = jove Evil Girl You are going too fast! Wait a minute and try again.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.06.30 23:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Fresh Prinz there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were The models are in. The devs have piloted them on occasion (Sharkbait uses them for his stress tests on sisi), and if you look at the bottom left of the most recent size chart, you can see them. But they're unbalanced though. Since they weren't rebalanced along with the rest of the ships when CCP boosted the HP, they're actually significantly worse than the playable race ships atm. If CCP ever open them up to the public, they'll have to completely redo them. that chart calls the nightmare the nighthawk, typos FTW! - The mods shall not have my sig, if they do i'll kill CCP's hamsters. kill 'em! we have backup gerbils - Deckard kills any rodents of any kind for good measure ha!
Virida Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.06.30 23:36:00 - [21] We know they rely on gene manipulation, and managed to do bad things to their genes, who caused a drop in population. But, the most interesting is the name: it mean, "inhabitant of gas giant" a jovian planet is a jupiter like planet, aka gas giant. and "jovian" as a term for a race or population, mean "of a gas giant". It could mean a lot, really, all from they building a Matrioshka brain(rebuilding a gas giant into a powersource of a giant machine, a metalic encapsulated gas planet), to simply habitats floating on the gas clouds. Or other things, too.
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.06.30 23:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Virida We know they rely on gene manipulation, and managed to do bad things to their genes, who caused a drop in population. But, the most interesting is the name: it mean, "inhabitant of gas giant" a jovian planet is a jupiter like planet, aka gas giant. and "jovian" as a term for a race or population, mean "of a gas giant". It could mean a lot, really, all from they building a Matrioshka brain(rebuilding a gas giant into a powersource of a giant machine, a metalic encapsulated gas planet), to simply habitats floating on the gas clouds. Or other things, too. They eat a lot of Beans "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.30 23:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Virida But, the most interesting is the name: it mean, "inhabitant of gas giant" a jovian planet is a jupiter like planet, aka gas giant. and "jovian" as a term for a race or population, mean "of a gas giant". It could mean a lot, really, all from they building a Matrioshka brain(rebuilding a gas giant into a powersource of a giant machine, a metalic encapsulated gas planet), to simply habitats floating on the gas clouds. Or other things, too. What it means is that CCP were (thankfully) above calling them 'Martians'. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.07.01 00:12:00 - [24] Jovian probably makes reference to them being very powerful, like Jove (the equivalent of Zeus) in mythology. They have the power of the gods in short, so of course only the devs can fly them . I hope they don't become a playable race to be honest, I would love to fly their ships and do some interesting things with their backstory, but get a bunch of Jovians in Jita hawking wares, like "wtb navy isseu vexor, accept my freform contarct!", and suddenly they become a lot less cool. They're like a Ferrari I guess, their exclusivity and rarity makes them hot . Looking for a relaxed ingame RP channel to join? La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.01 01:11:00 - [25] Is there a data file or website somewhere with the unavailable faction ship info? Autolink isn't returning any for me. I've seen some of them before but I don't remember how I found them. _____ Heat Warfare
Alan Bell Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.01 01:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Fresh Prinz there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were The models are in. The devs have piloted them on occasion (Sharkbait uses them for his stress tests on sisi), and if you look at the bottom left of the most recent size chart, you can see them. But they're unbalanced though. Since they weren't rebalanced along with the rest of the ships when CCP boosted the HP, they're actually significantly worse than the playable race ships atm. If CCP ever open them up to the public, they'll have to completely redo them. anyone notice that the bustard is the only t2 hauler that apparently is much larger than its t1 counterpart? (and only t2 hauler in there) "There are as many nights as days, and the one is just as long as the other in the year's course. Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word 'happy' would lose its mean
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.01 01:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Alan Bell Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Fresh Prinz there are jovian ships in eve aparently.. i googled it b4 and they were The models are in. The devs have piloted them on occasion (Sharkbait uses them for his stress tests on sisi), and if you look at the bottom left of the most recent size chart, you can see them. But they're unbalanced though. Since they weren't rebalanced along with the rest of the ships when CCP boosted the HP, they're actually significantly worse than the playable race ships atm. If CCP ever open them up to the public, they'll have to completely redo them. anyone notice that the bustard is the only t2 hauler that apparently is much larger than its t1 counterpart? (and only t2 hauler in there) I'm guessing maybe it's the only one with a different model than its t1 counterpart? I didn't see any other T2 ships. _____ Heat Warfare
Nicholas Barker MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.07.01 01:44:00 - [28] i believe (from memory) that they have 3 mother ships that are comparable to our titans, 1 out of service for refitting/upgrades at any time. And one special ship that's ******* huge (their titan, comparable to no playable ship) that pretty much pwns (i can't remember it's name) It's the ship they used to escape their home world during that plague thing. atm if you look on the database at their ship stats they're pretty sucky atm although could totally own if given some secret jove/Dev/gm mods, although all the other races ships would own more if they had the same mods. They appear to have been unaltered after all the other ships got a boost a few patches ago. I think from this we can tell they're not going to make a shootable appearance in the foreseeable future until their ships are boosted. ---
Tipz NexAstrum Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.01 02:22:00 - [29] I, for one, welcome our future Jovian overlords. I always liked the idea of Jove being accessible only from a secret path available from an extremely difficult series of chance events that lead to all the characters on your account being deleted and Jove nub being substituted in it's place. -------------------------------------------
Kindakrof Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.07.01 02:57:00 - [30] The nightmare says nightawk :( --- --- ---

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