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Roc Wieler
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:17:00 -
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Been playing since January. Been living in 0.3 space, doing PVE stuff, building up my skills.
Was flying a cloaked Huginn until yesterday when I was sneaking through a battle, checking things out. Didn't realize opening a wreck would decloak me, where I died instantly.
Seems everytime I go out for PVP, I die instantly. Need someone to teach me the ways of PVP please.
Colonel Roc Wieler
Merchant Marines
"There's a time to stand up and be a man, but right now son, you should just run."
- Roc Wieler |
Florio
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:20:00 -
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get 20 ships you can afford to lose.
lose them.
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Na'Kunni
Amarr
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:23:00 -
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Head down towards Murethand. And i'll take you out and about, although my ship can sometimes I accidently lock the wrong target, then my scrambler activates and won't deactivated, no matter how many times I click it (lag ), And out of the blue, my weapon systems come online, them too won't switch off either.
Still want a mentor?
On a more serious note, joining a "PvP" corp will help you best
Step away from the 
Step closer to the 
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Gojyu
Gallente
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:23:00 -
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If you can fly a huggin, you can fly a rifter. Outfit a rifter. Attack someone with it. Figure out what you did wrong. Outfit another rifter, attack someone with it, figure out what you did wrong. The day you don't lose your rifter is the day you move up to stabbers :)
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Roc Wieler
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Gojyu
If you can fly a huggin, you can fly a rifter. Outfit a rifter. Attack someone with it. Figure out what you did wrong. Outfit another rifter, attack someone with it, figure out what you did wrong. The day you don't lose your rifter is the day you move up to stabbers :)
Done these steps. Gone through about 20 rifters, learning each time. Did the same with Stabbers. Gone through 9 of those. The problem I am finding about "learning what I did wrong each time" is that I don't seem to last long enough to learn anything. It's not lag. I just get killed very quickly.
Maybe I need to learn better loadouts. Part of the reason I moved to a Huginn was for the "surprise" element cloaking offers, but as mentioned, apparently I didn't research cloaking enough.
I thought that was the role I wanted, the ambush guy, now I am not so sure.
Colonel Roc Wieler
Merchant Marines
"There's a time to stand up and be a man, but right now son, you should just run."
- Roc Wieler |
Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:37:00 -
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Agony Unleashed PvP academy
Drone Love - My skills
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Roc Wieler
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Agony Unleashed PvP academy
Signed up. Will give this a try.
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Colonel Roc Wieler
Merchant Marines
"There's a time to stand up and be a man, but right now son, you should just run."
- Roc Wieler |
Le Bon
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:44:00 -
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Its not just about the ships you use or how you fly them, its about knowing your apponants ships, bonuses and how he is likely to use/fit it in combat.
Of course thier are a few exceptions to the rules but you'll find most follow guidelines when it comes to thier ships.
Drop me a mail ingame.. we'll talk.
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Vasiliyan
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:04:00 -
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It really is best to learn PvP in a gang. You also have to have a good knowledge of related game mechanics (e.g. everything will decloak you if you come within 2km of it; the aggression timer mechanics; etc)
In gang fights you'll survive a bit longer as you're not primaried. Also, 75% of PvP is picking a fight you expect to win without the other person (or FC) realising that.
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:12:00 -
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I think eve university do pvp courses
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Awox
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
Southern Connection
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:14:00 -
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cloaking huginn? but cannot fly..
/me smells ebay
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TOTALHELLDEATH
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 03/07/2007 15:16:20
convo ingame SirMolle or farjung, if they dont ansewr cause they have anything to do send them evemails. This guys will help you, they are PVP volunteer's for new players
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Le Bon
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH
Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 03/07/2007 15:16:20
convo ingame SirMolle or farjung, if they dont ansewr cause they have anything to do send them evemails. This guys will help you, they are PVP volunteer's for new players
They wont reply or accept your convos are they are major alliance/corp leaders, ignore this silly troll.
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Roc Wieler
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Awox
cloaking huginn? but cannot fly..
/me smells ebay
Smell eBay all you want. EVE isn't my primary game. I train skills, and login when I can. Recently, that's been more often. I am a recreational player, not an eBay. I smell something also... but it's not eBay. Is that coming from you?
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Colonel Roc Wieler
Merchant Marines
"There's a time to stand up and be a man, but right now son, you should just run."
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TOTALHELLDEATH
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Le Bon
Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH
Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 03/07/2007 15:16:20
convo ingame SirMolle or farjung, if they dont ansewr cause they have anything to do send them evemails. This guys will help you, they are PVP volunteer's for new players
They wont reply or accept your convos are they are major alliance/corp leaders, ignore this silly troll.
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:03:00 -
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eve-university thread
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Vincent S
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:25:00 -
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You could start by realizing the huginn isn't a cloaker - the rapier is the cloaking minmatar recon :)
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JourneymanDave
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.04 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Wieler
Maybe I need to learn better loadouts. Part of the reason I moved to a Huginn was for the "surprise" element cloaking offers, but as mentioned, apparently I didn't research cloaking enough.
I thought that was the role I wanted, the ambush guy, now I am not so sure.
Part of your issue is that you're trying to cloak a Huginn. The Huginn is not intended to cloak, as it's cousin the Rapier is, and can't use the Covert Ops cloak. This means you're incurring locktime and target range penalties, and velocity (while cloaked) is signifcantly reduced - all very bad news for this ship.
My first suggestion - as above - would be to learn to PvP in something cheaper. If you absolutely insist on fighting in Huginns to learn, then check out the ship fitting threads for a better setup and some tactics advice.
All of the Recon ships have a very specific set of strengths and weaknesses, and PvP in a Huginn typically means leveraging those strengths and running like the ****ens in any other scenario (hint: it's a nice gang support ship, not a great solo ganker).
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