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Cosy Porandor	Posted - 2007.07.03 14:33:00 - [1] is true that CCP asked to be removed the evetv episode from youtube ? use h.264 code for your video and like that help eve-files
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:14:00 - [2] Originally by: Cosy is true that CCP asked to be removed the evetv episode from youtube ? If they did, I think they have every right to do so.. We got your FanFest, right here.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:24:00 - [3] It costs money to make EVE TV, if you "steal" it and watch it for free, there will eventually be no EVE TV. We don't want that, I don't think most of you wants that, and paying for EVE TV isn't that expensive. Posting links or directions on how to see EVE TV for free is a warnable offence on these forums, and may lead to a forum ban, likewise, a fansite supporting (or not removing) watching EVE TV for free will not be considered a fansite for much longer. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Johnathan Walker Caldari Blood Moon Masques	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:23:00 - [4] Props to the removal. Good move :)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:47:00 - [5] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/07/2007 18:47:22 Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Seeing EyeDog	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/07/2007 18:47:22 Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. yes...i can see it now...a flop of a tv show getting torrented...Theres just not enough demand to get people to torrent this crap.
Schmitz Cargobull	Posted - 2007.07.03 22:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Seeing EyeDog yes...i can see it now...a flop of a tv show getting torrented...Theres just not enough demand to get people to torrent this crap. If that were the case then people wouldn't be complaining about paying...
Kangtar Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.04 19:08:00 - [8] Quote: how to see EVE TV for free is a warnable offence on these forums It tells you how to do it on the eve tv site itself.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.04 20:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Originally by: Dark Shikari Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. yes...i can see it now...a flop of a tv show getting torrented...Theres just not enough demand to get people to torrent this crap. Going by the fact that the torrent has 4 seeders and 4 leachers according to the website, well it is getting torrented 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.06 13:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/07/2007 18:47:22 Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. I seem to quite-specifically remember something about, "If you paid for the episode already, re-watching it is free." That does not currently seem to be the case, however. Perhaps a shortcoming on Jalipo's end? While we're on the topic, what is the breakdown on EveTV's budget, from both ends? % of revenue from services rendered % of revenue as grants/loans from CCP % of revenue as grants/loans from MMM and When we pay 180 credits (==$1.80) to watch an episode, how much of that goes to Jalipo, how much of that goes to the payment-processing intermediary (if any), and how much ends up in EveTV's pocket? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.07.17 07:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/07/2007 18:47:22 Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. I seem to quite-specifically remember something about, "If you paid for the episode already, re-watching it is free." That does not currently seem to be the case, however. Perhaps a shortcoming on Jalipo's end? While we're on the topic, what is the breakdown on EveTV's budget, from both ends? % of revenue from services rendered % of revenue as grants/loans from CCP % of revenue as grants/loans from MMM and When we pay 180 credits (==$1.80) to watch an episode, how much of that goes to Jalipo, how much of that goes to the payment-processing intermediary (if any), and how much ends up in EveTV's pocket? --P mind your own business SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 13:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 03/07/2007 18:47:22 Xylania told me that older EVETV episodes would be posted on Youtube or offered for download, so that they could be watched again for free rather than paying money again and again each time the episode is watched. Is making money really so important that you'd rather have your own users pay twice to watch a video twice? If you keep doing this, odds are people will just give up paying Jalipo and torrent it all instead. I seem to quite-specifically remember something about, "If you paid for the episode already, re-watching it is free." That does not currently seem to be the case, however. Perhaps a shortcoming on Jalipo's end? While we're on the topic, what is the breakdown on EveTV's budget, from both ends? % of revenue from services rendered % of revenue as grants/loans from CCP % of revenue as grants/loans from MMM and When we pay 180 credits (==$1.80) to watch an episode, how much of that goes to Jalipo, how much of that goes to the payment-processing intermediary (if any), and how much ends up in EveTV's pocket? --P mind your own business SKUNK You misunderstand. If it all goes to Jalipo, then we can get together a fan-supported hosting service, like eve-files. If it all goes to the payment processor, CCP has in-house payment processing, and we can switch to that. If it all goes to the EveTV team... well, good! --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
The Provisioner Amarr Neutral Ground	Posted - 2007.07.17 18:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Pilk You misunderstand. If it all goes to Jalipo, then we can get together a fan-supported hosting service, like eve-files. If it all goes to the payment processor, CCP has in-house payment processing, and we can switch to that. If it all goes to the EveTV team... well, good! Im sure Eve-TV have considered their options, and looked at viable alternatives taking a lot of factors into account. As a non-public (ie private, for profit) organisation, I doubt they'd be revealing this information anytime soon. ---------------------------------
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.17 23:22:00 - [14] Originally by: The Provisioner Originally by: Pilk You misunderstand. If it all goes to Jalipo, then we can get together a fan-supported hosting service, like eve-files. If it all goes to the payment processor, CCP has in-house payment processing, and we can switch to that. If it all goes to the EveTV team... well, good! Im sure Eve-TV have considered their options, and looked at viable alternatives taking a lot of factors into account. As a non-public (ie private, for profit) organisation, I doubt they'd be revealing this information anytime soon. At least in the U.S., it's part of a public company's fiduciary responsibility to make the most money possible for its investors. If we can provide them with free or reduced-cost hosting, as a community, why wouldn't they take advantage of that? --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Itoban Enkim Amarr Staboholics Anonymous	Posted - 2007.07.18 06:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Pilk When we pay 180 credits (==$1.80) to watch an episode, how much of that goes to Jalipo, how much of that goes to the payment-processing intermediary (if any), and how much ends up in EveTV's pocket? --P Originally by: Jalipo Revenue split is 80% for the content company and 20% for Jalipo. The revenue share for people that syndicate the content will be set by the content company. Most stuff on Jalipo is 1.25 credits per minute for the 250k stream, some documentarys are 2.25 credits/minute and movies and EVE TV are 4.25 credits/minute. But I guess they still need a couple thousand people watching it to make it worthwhile.

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