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Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: Serilla http://www.outbreak-eve.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266127 This guy? Ya huh. ahh sounds familiar ... I think the second nano-mach was Phlax ? or my memory is not correct ... Anyway I saw them work with those ships, lost a thorax to them. Was a great experience. The biggest problem is the NOS. Without the nos, he's not even dangerous. ECM ftw ... Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
LVirus Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:48:00 - [32] buuhhuuu, cry me a river. Im one of those "5b imbamach" pilots. Yeah sure i can kill ****loads of carebears ratting in belts and i can get out of 20ppl noob gatecamps that dont have huginns/rapiers. Damps and ECM hurt me so hard that i cant do anything. All medium turrets track me without any problems, even some large turrets make me run. Yeah its an impossible "imbaship" if i dont die to a 20 ppl gatecamp that has less shipvalue total than i have on 1 ship. Oh and if CCP would give us caldari pilots 1 decent pvp ship then i wouldnt have to use machariel. I mean with 55m sp i should at least have 1 decent ship to fly.
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:06:00 - [33] Originally by: LVirus buuhhuuu, cry me a river. Im one of those "5b imbamach" pilots. Yeah sure i can kill ****loads of carebears ratting in belts and i can get out of 20ppl noob gatecamps that dont have huginns/rapiers. Damps and ECM hurt me so hard that i cant do anything. All medium turrets track me without any problems, even some large turrets make me run. Yeah its an impossible "imbaship" if i dont die to a 20 ppl gatecamp that has less shipvalue total than i have on 1 ship. Oh and if CCP would give us caldari pilots 1 decent pvp ship then i wouldnt have to use machariel. I mean with 55m sp i should at least have 1 decent ship to fly. - If you really have a 5 billion ISK Machariel that goes 10 km/sec you should be able to get out of ANY gate camp. You can make it back to the gate in like five seconds. - I am really at a loss as to how medium turrets manage to track a 10km/sec orbiting ship.
LVirus Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:10:00 - [34] Originally by: Xequecal Originally by: LVirus buuhhuuu, cry me a river. Im one of those "5b imbamach" pilots. Yeah sure i can kill ****loads of carebears ratting in belts and i can get out of 20ppl noob gatecamps that dont have huginns/rapiers. Damps and ECM hurt me so hard that i cant do anything. All medium turrets track me without any problems, even some large turrets make me run. Yeah its an impossible "imbaship" if i dont die to a 20 ppl gatecamp that has less shipvalue total than i have on 1 ship. Oh and if CCP would give us caldari pilots 1 decent pvp ship then i wouldnt have to use machariel. I mean with 55m sp i should at least have 1 decent ship to fly. - If you really have a 5 billion ISK Machariel that goes 10 km/sec you should be able to get out of ANY gate camp. You can make it back to the gate in like five seconds. - I am really at a loss as to how medium turrets manage to track a 10km/sec orbiting ship. orbit speed is still around 6km/s and do you know what happens to your sig radius if you have 3 istab and gist-x MWD?
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:20:00 - [35] Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. -- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
LVirus Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:25:00 - [36] Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:25:08 Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:24:46 Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. how many machariels like that are out there? Maybe 10? I bet there are even more titans around.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:35:00 - [37] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2007 10:42:32 --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:02:00 - [38] Originally by: LVirus Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:25:08 Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:24:46 Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. how many machariels like that are out there? Maybe 10? I bet there are even more titans around. And that changes things how...? -- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
LVirus Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: LVirus Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:25:08 Edited by: LVirus on 09/07/2007 10:24:46 Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. how many machariels like that are out there? Maybe 10? I bet there are even more titans around. And that changes things how...? find something else to whine about.
The Economist	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:11:00 - [40] Edited by: The Economist on 09/07/2007 11:12:09 Let's check some arbitrary balance criteria shall we? Goes fast but not silly fast; check. Costs a crapload to fit properly; check. Doesn't turn like an interceptor; check. Has a sig radius as big as John Prescott; check. Doesn't insta-warp; check. Is easy to counter with a minute fraction of the cost and a couple of brain-cells; check. Summary
Chrysalis D'lilth	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Congrats kiddys. Fix it CCP. Cry more, n00b ?
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:37:00 - [42] Originally by: The Economist Has a sig radius as big as John Prescott; check. wtf snip Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked.
Ozzie Asrail Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2007 10:44:30 Syntax error: Missing valid arguments. Speed-Machs are fine, rare and expensive and go down quick once you get some dps on them. -----
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc.	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:53:00 - [44] this thread is a joke... FIX IT CCP TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
Ione Hunt 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:06:00 - [45] Originally by: Uzuck mideek How to Kill a Nano-Mach DIE!!! I was in the office with sound on and you make me click that god forsaken link again!! _______________
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:24:00 - [46] OO for god sake.. we already killed that same machariel some months ago! Stop whinning. We did it once, _A_ did it again, it proves its doable, just use the brain. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Bentula	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:27:00 - [47] Edited by: Bentula on 09/07/2007 12:26:27 I completly fail to see where the problem is. Huginn webs at 34km, and no, not even inertia will safe him once he has 3 90% webs on him. If he engages outside of that range, using only torps ... well ... i honestly fail to see how 4 unbonused cruise or torplaunchers are going to kill ANYTHING before it just laughs and warps out. And with rapiers around you have to be real careful piloting such ships, 2 cloaked recons will completly disable him in a heartbeat.
Pluton Hazmat Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:34:00 - [48] Edited by: Pluton Hazmat on 09/07/2007 13:34:53 Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. * I'm completely rediculous . That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. shrugs* Enough said.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:06:00 - [49] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: number III just cause u got killed by something does not mean it needs to be nerfed. If some1 wants to go put 3bil in a ship to do this then they should be able to. The phoon got nerfed cause u can put a few mil into it and get insane speed. So either it is that you can not afford it so no1 should have it or u can not think of a way to kill it which is not that hard. If you look at that guys kb he has died in one before. So it is not impossible. Number III Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. Since when you work at CCP to know what battleships are intended to do? If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Mitsuko Anari	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:36:00 - [50] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Been killed many times, by many different ships. I'm not calling for a nerf just because I lost a ship (didn't even lose a ship here). I'm calling for a nerf because a Battleship is not meant to be able to reach speeds like that. I'm completely rediculous. That's like saying Titans weren't overpowered because look at the amount of isk you need to get one. I mean, c'mon. You said it yourself. STFU.
Cheunger BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:36:00 - [51] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: Serilla http://www.outbreak-eve.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266127 This guy? Ya huh. Just learn how to kill him. If others can do it, so can you. OOPS!! I FORGOT. IAC ARE NUBS!!
GO MaZ Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:38:00 - [52] Originally by: Cheunger Just learn how to kill him. If others can do it, so can you. OOPS!! I FORGOT. IAC ARE NUBS!! Not all of IAC, just this guy. Even people in his own alliance are smacking him
Valea Wrath Of Khaine Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:47:00 - [53] I am calling for a nerf of the osprey, use of it from hereon out should be considered an abuse of ingame mechanics. Lets look at the osprey, and see JUST how overpowered it is. First the hardpoints, the osprey has THREE turret hardpoints, the EXACT same number as the Amarr dreadnought, so I think we can safely consider the osprey a dreadnaught from now on. The osprey's capability to fit and sustain three dreadnought sized weapons should be removed from the game, when in siege mode, I am guessing the osprey could reach upwards of forty thousand DPS. Furthermore, the two missile slots allow for a hail of defender missiles that I am 100% sure would render it invulnerable to any weapon, giving it a better tank than the Blackbird and the Ferox combined. Also, the bonuses are totally overpowered, 20% bonus to laser amount per level puts the osprey at a level of dps that outclasses even the mackinaw. It is clear that this, combined with it's superior tank, makes the osprey a totally unbalanced ship. I urge ccp to delete EVE to prevent this ship from ever being used again. Thank you, And please sign the petition
Ryysa Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Valea I am calling for a nerf of the osprey, use of it from hereon out should be considered an abuse of ingame mechanics. Lets look at the osprey, and see JUST how overpowered it is. First the hardpoints, the osprey has THREE turret hardpoints, the EXACT same number as the Amarr dreadnought, so I think we can safely consider the osprey a dreadnaught from now on. The osprey's capability to fit and sustain three dreadnought sized weapons should be removed from the game, when in siege mode, I am guessing the osprey could reach upwards of forty thousand DPS. Furthermore, the two missile slots allow for a hail of defender missiles that I am 100% sure would render it invulnerable to any weapon, giving it a better tank than the Blackbird and the Ferox combined. Also, the bonuses are totally overpowered, 20% bonus to laser amount per level puts the osprey at a level of dps that outclasses even the mackinaw. It is clear that this, combined with it's superior tank, makes the osprey a totally unbalanced ship. I urge ccp to delete EVE to prevent this ship from ever being used again. Thank you, And please sign the petition EW Guide - KB Tool - PVP Event
Valea Wrath Of Khaine Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.09 15:03:00 - [55] Originally by: Ryysa You are not taking my post on a forum on the internet seriously, I have reported you to your internet service provider for questioning my considerable knowledge about developing and balancing video games.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.09 15:24:00 - [56] Originally by: Cheunger Originally by: Marcus Druallis Originally by: Serilla http://www.outbreak-eve.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=266127 This guy? Ya huh. Just learn how to kill him. If others can do it, so can you. OOPS!! I FORGOT. IAC ARE NUBS!! we already killed that same guy with an nano machariel about 1 and half month ago. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.07.09 16:40:00 - [57] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Congrats kiddys. Fix it CCP. WTS: Nano-Huginn Special offer today only... buy the huginn and well throw in for free one unit of Clue.
Slan Traveller Tri Optimum Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.07.09 16:56:00 - [58] Phlax' one was recently destroyed by Ev0ke in e02. They're hard to kill, cost billions, but one mistake will still see them down. Sic parvis magna
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:16:00 - [59] Edited by: Ace101 on 09/07/2007 20:16:31 tbh, it is very hard to kill them. however it can be done (if you use your head) but the pilots will wise up, making it harder and harder. i bet zeroh wasnt expecting that. 5isk if you can catch him again tho. also if a nano mach pilot ever cries "omg you blobbers" then wtf do they expect, you cant solo these ships Brute Force Film
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:21:00 - [60] Phlax = Death bunny ______________________________________________ some guy telling a noob that pirates doesnt check their age before attacking "ooh! an age quip! very clever,I'm probably older than you darling! xx

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