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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:13:00 - [1] As if one big test last Sunday on Singularity wasn't enough, we'll have another testing event this Tuesday. The setup will be the same, you should all gather in FD-MLJ on the Singularity server and join the in game channel 'starbaseattack'. We encourage you to use Dreadnaughts and Carriers, since we are attacking a Starbase. And of course you should have your ships set up and everything fitted before 11.00 GMT since the event will start then and take about one hour. This is being run to compare performance between Revelations 2.01 and the upcoming Revelations 2.1 (with Python 2.5 runtime). This time we'll be running the exact same code as Tranquility to see if there's any difference in performance between this stress test and the previous stress test. If you have any questions regarding the event, please post them in this thread. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Murtac	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:35:00 - [2] Edited by: Murtac on 09/07/2007 11:35:59 EDIT: * rant removed * Please try to communicate better with your testers this time. We've been sitting for 45 minutes waiting for a "you can go home, we don't need you" last time.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Murtac Edited by: Murtac on 09/07/2007 11:35:59 EDIT: * rant removed * Please try to communicate better with your testers this time. We've been sitting for 45 minutes waiting for a "you can go home, we don't need you" last time. Oh? What happened? Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

IlluminatedOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:03:00 - [4] Edited by: IlluminatedOne on 09/07/2007 12:03:20 Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh? What happened? Please read pages 3, 4 and 5 of this topic... (topic on prev. test) (if you're short on time - read this) -------------------------------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8)
kworld	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:08:00 - [5] there were like 200 players at that thime in that local sys and we were told it started early due to people arriving early so we were told basically its started ya too late when we wasnt late. so we were messd about setting up the test server for nothing not doing it again

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:08:00 - [6] I believe Zulupark replied to those issues in his last post. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

ivar R'dhak STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:18:00 - [7] How did the last test go from CCP¦s point of view? And I very much hope that the rampaging desynch issue is being investigated too? Not just if yet another codechange works. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Tallen Zek	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:36:00 - [8] Hello, i would like to assist inb the load test, sounds awsome, but i can't fly anything larger then a battleship, am i still able to assist?
Ecid Q'Wulf Caldari Galactic Fighter Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:38:00 - [9] Yeah, it would be nice to get some Feedback from CCP, after the second event took place, to let us know, which test (and therefor code) was smoother. Ecid "This post represents my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance." - wait a second, i am the CEO, ofcourse they do !!!

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:55:00 - [10] Originally by: ivar R'dhak How did the last test go from CCP¦s point of view? And I very much hope that the rampaging desynch issue is being investigated too? Not just if yet another codechange works. See the link in my last post. The desync issue is being investigated, though I'm not so sure this test has anything to do with it. You can help out in this thread. Originally by: Tallen Zek Hello, i would like to assist inb the load test, sounds awsome, but i can't fly anything larger then a battleship, am i still able to assist? Yes of course, we don't require you to fly capital ships, we just encourage it if you can fly them. Originally by: Ecid Q'Wulf Yeah, it would be nice to get some Feedback from CCP, after the second event took place, to let us know, which test (and therefor code) was smoother. Ecid I believe Zulupark will post some sort of information on how the test went. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:23:00 - [11] Edited by: MotherMoon on 09/07/2007 13:23:20 Originally by: CCP Wrangler I believe Zulupark replied to those issues in his last post. this is why your the dev and we are the community. I just love how flawlessly you answers a question and stopped a possible riot by doing nothing more than pointing out something. kudos for keeping the community happy :) oh and I'll be there 2 hours early to join in the lag fun ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Murtac	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:54:00 - [12] Well, just so we're clear, this was what happened: I logged in 10 minutes early for the test, joined the appropriate channel and asked for gang. A while later CCP Zulupark said he stopped doing invites for now, so I decided to wait. He later lost connection and needed gang himself, which was quite funny (and almost made it worth the 45 minutes of boredom). A while later others who got gang relayed the info that the test was in progress and they would not be doing any more invites. At this point I logged, ****ed off at CCP once again. But even though he was lagging and stressed, would a simple: "We have all the people we need in gang. If you can stick around and do stuff in FD-M you'd be helping out, though." be too much to ask for? It would have turned an entirely unpleasant experience into something nice. Might even have lead to some nice battles...

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Murtac But even though he was lagging and stressed, would a simple: "We have all the people we need in gang. If you can stick around and do stuff in FD-M you'd be helping out, though." be too much to ask for? It would have turned an entirely unpleasant experience into something nice. Might even have lead to some nice battles... We'll keep that in mind for future events, like the one tomorrow. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Iron McFly CHAF tech	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:12:00 - [14] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 09/07/2007 13:23:20 Originally by: CCP Wrangler I believe Zulupark replied to those issues in his last post. this is why your the dev and we are the community. I just love how flawlessly you answers a question and stopped a possible riot by doing nothing more than pointing out something. kudos for keeping the community happy :) Now I know why I play this game, same as why I prefer 3rd restroom stall at work: On the Left wall it says Ping, on the right wall it says Pong. I'll try to get there 'before 11:00 GMT' this time - as that's when it's actually too late.
Nossirah Minmatar The Guild of Calamitous Intent.	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:35:00 - [15] I would really like to participate in one of these big tests, but unfortunately they have both been scheduled at 5 AM local. As much as I want to help, there is almost no way I can be on that early. Maybe your next big test can be scheduled later in the day so some of us on the other side of the planet can take part.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Nossirah I would really like to participate in one of these big tests, but unfortunately they have both been scheduled at 5 AM local. As much as I want to help, there is almost no way I can be on that early. Maybe your next big test can be scheduled later in the day so some of us on the other side of the planet can take part. I believe test such as this will take place at the time that suits the QA team best, and it seems like they are having them at Tranquility downtime to get as many people as possible. If it would suit them to have a test later in the day I'm sure they'll have it, but I don't think they'll schedule tests in different times because of timezones. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Danzir Kasnov GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.09 18:42:00 - [17] Just come to 9-9 tonight and watch the slideshow with the rest of us :s http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/sethurblackcoat/goonslol.jpg Large numbers of sessions chnages especially seem to trigger the dsyncs.

CCP Sharkbait	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Danzir Kasnov Just come to 9-9 tonight and watch the slideshow with the rest of us :s http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/sethurblackcoat/goonslol.jpg Large numbers of sessions chnages especially seem to trigger the dsyncs. run logserver and get me a logfile please. people are complaining about these desync issues, but i've not been able to reproduce this and no one has helped by getting me a logfile of the event. the sooner we get a nice logfile, the sooner we can hopefully find the issue.

Zwaplat Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:58:00 - [19] Well, easiest way to obtain what you need Sharkbait, would be to join in on the test tomorrow. Have a full fleet shoot the POS, and let the rest of the people jump in and out system and dock/undock. If anything happens, you'll have your logfile right away. ---------- I made a bet for 100M and a faction fitted Raven that I wouldn't get any dev/admin change to my signature even when I specifically ask not to. So please, think of my poor wallet!
HelenTung	Posted - 2007.07.09 21:49:00 - [20] erm... im getting an incorrect pw/username error... is it cause im on a trial account?
Lord Zuku The Military	Posted - 2007.07.10 00:26:00 - [21] Originally by: HelenTung erm... im getting an incorrect pw/username error... is it cause im on a trial account? If you are on a trial then your account doesn't exist on the test server and therefore cannot participate.
Anexian	Posted - 2007.07.10 00:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Danzir Kasnov Just come to 9-9 tonight and watch the slideshow with the rest of us :s http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/sethurblackcoat/goonslol.jpg Large numbers of sessions chnages especially seem to trigger the dsyncs. i was the first one to die in my gang, jump in nothing load relog 2 times next thing i know i was at the station
MrRx7 Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.10 04:05:00 - [23] is the test server going to revert to the old mirror when your finshed? some of us were still in the middle of sov testing....not to mention tons of hours into moving and deploying outpost upgrades/supercap stuff. gonna be really ****ed if i spent all the time to test sov4 and I have to do it all over again
Danzir Kasnov GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.10 08:48:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Sharkbait run logserver and get me a logfile please. people are complaining about these desync issues, but i've not been able to reproduce this and no one has helped by getting me a logfile of the event. the sooner we get a nice logfile, the sooner we can hopefully find the issue. This is rather tricky, a number of goons at least have been running logserver. The problem is its a bit of ram hog. It eats up about 500mg of ram within 15 mins of running from my observation. I personally only have a 1 gig stick. The effect is with the additional client lag (I'm already running with tags, effects off. You have too in large fleet battles even with a half decent machine), any added server lag just causes the game to be totally unplayable. I was looking at 1 frame every 30 seconds. You cant tell if your being de synced or not at this point. There has been a call for goons to get these logs generated however, so hopefully you'll get your data soon. Also let me be more specific with 'session changes' and give you an example. This isn't just gate session changes. This also includes large numbers warping in to an already crowded battlefield. Case in point ~200+ warp to about 100 people attacking POS modules, this morning around 6GMT. The module lag was around 30 seconds to a minute for me and several minutes for others. The original 100 on the POS were relatively lag free before the warp in. After there were large reports of total de syncs. I warped away to a safe spot and found myself with a mixture of long module delay and nothing loading as well as the capacitor twitching and my ship rotating on the spot for no reason. Re logging greeted me with the old black loading screen. It took about 30 minutes before I got in again. These kind of things happen almost every large fight. Im surprised you havent been able to repeat this.

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2007.07.10 09:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Danzir Kasnov Originally by: CCP Sharkbait run logserver and get me a logfile please. people are complaining about these desync issues, but i've not been able to reproduce this and no one has helped by getting me a logfile of the event. the sooner we get a nice logfile, the sooner we can hopefully find the issue. This is rather tricky, a number of goons at least have been running logserver. The problem is its a bit of ram hog. It eats up about 500mg of ram within 15 mins of running from my observation. We run the logserver all day long and none of us have ever had this memory issue with it that you're talking about. You can try opening the tools menu and clicking the 'Server Mode (100,000)' option. That way it auto-saves the logs every one hundred thousand lines and reduces the resources the LogServer.exe takes. If you get a logfile with this issue in it PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE create a bugreport, attach the logfile and put 'Desync issue:xx' in the subject line.

Mad Bomber Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.07.10 10:58:00 - [26] Dead here too
Lady d'Lay Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.10 10:59:00 - [27] sure no hurry ..
masty	Posted - 2007.07.10 10:59:00 - [28] no problem thanks 4 quick reply
Lady Gwen	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:01:00 - [29] wonder why these proxies die so often are they under attack ?
Nichuna	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:02:00 - [30] this is bad, crashed before testing is started:P

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