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emllik
Epidemic. F0rgotten Hope
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:39:00 -
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Hey there,
I apologise if this topic has been asked about numerous times, the search didn't come up with anything useful, hency why I am posting here.
I was wondering if there is a specific ship, for example Tengu's for Gurista/Serpentis plexing that can be used for Sansha plexing. I've done a bit of reading and found that most people tank with an AF and use their gang to kill the rats, but what is best for solo plexing?
I've been trying to create different T3 fits but haven't been able to find an appropriate one.
Any help with fits or specific ships would be much appreciated.
Thanks, E
tl;dr: Best ship for Sansha plexing? |

1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1858
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:49:00 -
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Abby can solo the Sansha 10/10 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything! |

Zarian Uphius
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
7
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Posted - 2012.01.09 04:59:00 -
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loki ftw.
the rest is easy |

Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.01.09 11:46:00 -
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You'll want high base resists to EM/thermal so Minnie T2/T3 spring to mind and because of that the Loki (as per above). Not sure how much tank you'll need but an artie Loki with light drones would work fine imo. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. |

Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.01.09 13:51:00 -
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Simple and doesnt break your wallet.
[Loki, Sansha plex] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II Stasis Webifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Hobgoblin II x5
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emllik
Epidemic. F0rgotten Hope
2
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:13:00 -
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Thanks for all your replies.
It looks like Loki is the best choice, thank you for the fit.
E |

Risting
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.03 11:17:00 -
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Anyone tried it with a Varg ? |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
456
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Posted - 2012.02.03 15:00:00 -
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Yep, the Loki is what I use myself too. Personally, I shield tank it, but that's mostly because I prefer shield tanking. It's nice that it's completely viable both shield and armor tanked. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
116
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Posted - 2012.02.03 16:01:00 -
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I've been tinkering with an Artillery Loki lately. I prefer active tank ships and I just speed tank (650+ m/s) and orbit about 30-40km out. I am still tinkering with a mix of low and mids for targeting mods and power, but this fit is roughly similar to what I am using. You might need to go with smaller guns depending on your skill set. I group the guns in pairs. I can target out to over 86km, optimal is 18km with short range ammo and falloff is 43km. The drone link is a personal choice, but I often swap it out for other toys.
Per my tastes, it is cap stable and not stupid expensive. I usually end up with a nice spiraling ring of wrecks in the pockets when I'm done.
[Loki, Arty PVE ship drones simple] Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Tracking Computer II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Acolyte II x5 Acolyte II x5
Why are my neocom icons so tiny? Oh, you can widen and narrow the bar. Cool.-á |

Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2012.02.03 18:40:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote: Acolyte II x5 Acolyte II x5
There is no reason to ever use these underpowered weak drones, use hobgobs. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
116
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Posted - 2012.02.03 19:03:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:MadMuppet wrote: Acolyte II x5 Acolyte II x5
There is no reason to ever use these underpowered weak drones, use hobgobs.
There is actually a very good reason for using Acolytes over Hobs and the drone augmentation link is part of that. I can target the long range ships outside their engagement range and send the drones to harass them. Acolytes are much faster than Hobs so they can pull aggro and hold it, but they are too fast for the BS ships to pop them. They just sit and spin in place while I pick them off.
But yeah, under normal combat conditions I run 50/50 Acs/Hobs.
Why are my neocom icons so tiny? Oh, you can widen and narrow the bar. Cool.-á |

Kietay Ayari
Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.02.03 21:01:00 -
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I use the Tengu for all Plexing. I know people think the Tengu is not good without its kinetic bonus but it can still equal or even outdamage other T3s with any damage type at similar ranges. I know the Tengu is better for other things but its still close to the best for this as well :3
[Tengu, OP Mini Golem]
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Gist A-Type Photon Scattering Field Gist A-Type Photon Scattering Field Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
39km Range 741 EM DPS - with 2 implants (640 without) 1050 Sansha DPS Tank - with crystal set (684 without) 661m/s
For anyone curious this thing can get 988 DPS with Kinetic missiles if you replace the DCU with another BCU :3 Show me another T3 that can do this? Yes it is expensive btw :P But soloing anything short of a crazy torp 10/10 you'll earn that back pretty fast.
Edit: By the way you can use a HML fit for an even better tank since you will no longer need the TP and can fit another resist. With that you will have up to 1600 DPS Sansha tank and far more range and ability to hit frigates. You will just also lose some of the DPS. I just wanted to prove that it can equal the DPS of the other T3s without Kinetic ammo :3 Ferox #1 |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
892
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Posted - 2012.02.03 21:55:00 -
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Armageddon Navy Issue would be a very good choice if you can use Scorch, and have your T2 Gallente drone skills up to scratch. |

Risting
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.04 08:35:00 -
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Is the Navy Arma able to tank the plexes?
Also, I'd love to see a fit. |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
569
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Posted - 2012.02.05 04:24:00 -
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Risting wrote:Is the Navy Arma able to tank the plexes?
Also, I'd love to see a fit. Not sure about plexes but this will easily tank Sanctums. I had an Apoc (Not the faction one) that could tank them so this will be able to [Armageddon Navy Issue, Amarr L4]
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Drone Link Augmentor I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Tracking Enhancer II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Drone Speed Augmentor I Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
193
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Posted - 2012.02.05 07:04:00 -
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Has no-one considered the Munin? Think of me as the Jester to your King Lear: Because annoying you is more fun than politicking with you. Because your predictable outrage makes you even more fun to play with. Because forum PvP = best PvP. Come to me, little puppet! |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
570
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Posted - 2012.02.05 09:57:00 -
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Cant a broadsword tank the 10/10 plex? Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |

emllik
Epidemic. S I L E N T.
5
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Posted - 2012.02.05 11:32:00 -
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I thought I should post my experiences since posting this thread.
I decided to go for the armor tanked Loki. I've managed to solo everything up to and including 7/10 DED plexes and of course Sanctums. However, although the tank was sufficient for any escalations I came across, I really found the DPS lacking. For example, I couldn't even break the tank in a 8/10 DED that I found (Sorry, can't remember the name). I never progressed past any of the first rooms in escalations because I wanted to try and solo them so I can't tell you how I found those Citadel Torpedo rooms.
A corp-mate uses the Legion with some success, may be worth looking into.
Thanks for your posts thus far, it has certainly given me some other ships to consider!
E |

kyrv
hirr Against ALL Authorities
6
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Posted - 2012.02.05 13:17:00 -
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I'm dabbling with this setup but the dps is god awful.
[Paralux 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II True Sansha Cap Recharger 10MN Afterburner II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Drones_Inactive=Vespa EC-600,4 Drones_Active=Hobgoblin II,5 Implant_Active=Skirmish Warfare Mindlink |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
469
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Posted - 2012.02.05 16:26:00 -
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Gah, split weapons on a Loki, it makes me want to cry. Why do you feel the need to do that? |
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