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Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.07.12 03:01:00 - [31] Drones follow missiles in effectiveness, but watch out for the rampant drone aggro bugs that pop up in many an L4 mission. ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:29:00 - [32] Sorry but what are DLA and EANM? Click on my sig to read it !
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:33:00 - [33] DLA I EANM
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:37:00 - [34] thanks :) Click on my sig to read it !
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.07.12 15:56:00 - [35] Originally by: xHalcyonx I would say for PvE in order from best to 'worst': 1. Eos 2. Dominix 3. Ishtar 4. Myrmidon Myrmidon may in fact be the "worst" ratting ship of those 4, but its still better at it than most other races ratting ships. To the OP: yes, gallente ships are excellent pve platforms.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:08:00 - [36] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 12/07/2007 16:07:38 Originally by: xenodia Originally by: xHalcyonx I would say for PvE in order from best to 'worst': 1. Eos 2. Dominix 3. Ishtar 4. Myrmidon Myrmidon may in fact be the "worst" ratting ship of those 4, but its still better at it than most other races ratting ships. To the OP: yes, gallente ships are excellent pve platforms. Note the single quotes around worst. This implies the order is from Pwn to slightly less Pwn.
Zo5o	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:15:00 - [37] Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: Zo5o Domi produces the best isk/hour efficiency for running mission, due to the ability to carry both sentry and heavy drones. You're dead wrong there, buddy. For PvE effectiveness (isk/hour) the order goes and has always gone: CNR Rattlesnake Raven Domi I meant out of the Gallente boats, as this is a Gallente ship thread.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:23:00 - [38] Originally by: Zo5o Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: Zo5o Domi produces the best isk/hour efficiency for running mission, due to the ability to carry both sentry and heavy drones. You're dead wrong there, buddy. For PvE effectiveness (isk/hour) the order goes and has always gone: CNR Rattlesnake Raven Domi I meant out of the Gallente boats, as this is a Gallente ship thread. Well in that respect, it is on the same level with the Ishtar, and the OP said he has HACs 5, so an Ishtar would be better for his skills.
Zo5o	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:47:00 - [39] Edited by: Zo5o on 12/07/2007 16:54:04 The (badly worded) point of my original post was that a Domi will complete missions more quickly than an Ishtar because it can drop sentries, stand still until the rats come within 20-25 km, then scoop sentries and drop heavies. An Ishtar, in some circumstances, will not be able to stand still by its own sentries and tank as well as a Domi, since part of an Ishtar's tank in L4 missions is its small size and speed. In many cases an Ishtar will be able to use sentries effectively, but sometimes it will have to travel to scoop them, a time expenditure. Also, a Domi can fit 4 large railguns alongside a solid tank, which, with good skills, can complement the drones' DPS very significantly. As for the Ishtar being the faster ship between gates... in my experience, if you want to approach the gate at warp in, killing all the rats before reaching the gate is usually a challenge in a drone boat, so not really an issue IMO. As for what OP should use right now... agreed, Ishtar. However, if I were OP I'd train for a Domi for the above reasons.
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:54:00 - [40] I'm still standing by a mega for missions. Range damage ftw where you don't have to worry about rampent drone aggro.
Zo5o	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:56:00 - [41] Originally by: KD.Fluffy I'm still standing by a mega for missions. Range damage ftw where you don't have to worry about rampent drone aggro. Yeah I'm going to train gunnery skills once my drone skills are where I want them to be, so I can fit a Megathron or maybe Hyperion to do Worlds Collide with. There are a few times when being a Domi pilot sucks for missions, and having to always decline Worlds Collide cos I don't have a faction-repped setup to handle the crazy second stage drone aggro is one of them.
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:43:00 - [42] I still need to train AWU4 which doesn't take too long, but from BS3 to BS5 is a good 45 days ... I have other plans before I do that. The point really is just to get standings high enough for 5 good mechanical engineering agents, so the 45 days it would take to train to BS5 would probably take longer than raising the standing high enough Click on my sig to read it !
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:50:00 - [43] i tough you could only have 1 agent per field? ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 18:30:00 - [44] Research Project Management grants +1 per level ... Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.14 14:23:00 - [45] What do you think of that? Ishtar 1x Drone Link Augmentor I 3x Dual 180mm AutoCannon II 1x Medium Remote Armor Repair System I 1x 10MN Afterburner II 4x Cap Recharger II 1x Damage Control II 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x N-Type Explosive Hardener I 2x Medium Armor Repairer II 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump I 1687 shield, 4.22/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/64/86/64 1941 armor, E/T/K/Ex=71/76/88/66 1406.25 cap, +33.48/s, -76.977/s 526.0 m/s ??? Click on my sig to read it !
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.14 17:24:00 - [46] Originally by: Halada What do you think of that? Ishtar 1x Drone Link Augmentor I 3x Dual 180mm AutoCannon II 1x Medium Remote Armor Repair System I 1x 10MN Afterburner II 4x Cap Recharger II 1x Damage Control II 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x N-Type Explosive Hardener I 2x Medium Armor Repairer II 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump I 1687 shield, 4.22/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/64/86/64 1941 armor, E/T/K/Ex=71/76/88/66 1406.25 cap, +33.48/s, -76.977/s 526.0 m/s ??? Make the Expl hardener Tech II and drop the DLA (you already get a +5 km bonus per level to drone control range on the Ishtar).
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:02:00 - [47] Sadly though this setup isn't cap sustainable for too long with the AB. I guess this is why a Corpum-A is handy but at 400mil a piece I find it a huge investment... Click on my sig to read it !
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:11:00 - [48] My Astarte ran the few lvl 4's I did just fine. (2x AE, WC, all within 40 minutes.) --- How do I shot web?
Riho Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:33:00 - [49] Originally by: xHalcyonx I would say for PvE in order from best to 'worst': 1. Eos 2. Dominix 3. Ishtar 4. Myrmidon 1. astarte 2. dominix 3. ishtar 4. myrmidon 5. megathron 6. MYBE eos here eos can tank... but it s dmg suck ballz big time. gun dmg whitout fallof bonus = **** ranges and crap dmg whitout second dmg bonus. drones are too slow and do crap all dmg whitout drone dmg bonus. domi > eos :) i use a astarte... i can do missions lots faster than a domi can and i dont have problems tanking any spawn :) (im t2 fitted only allso) --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog -----------------
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:54:00 - [50] Im not too far from an Astarte... setup plz? :D Click on my sig to read it !
bldyannoyed Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.14 19:03:00 - [51] Megathron is a horrible horrible ship to do lvl4's with. I have virtually maxed out skills and i still die if i try and go near a lvl4 in one. It kinda suffers the way a lot of turret boats do for missioning, i.e. hitting stuff that runs in close. To do lvl4's without warping in and out all the time you need a dual LAR setup that will run for at least a while. Needs 3 hardeners too really. Even with 3 CCC, 3 recharge II's and a CPR II you'd be real surprised how fast you cap out running both reps and your railguns. Stick to a domi or an Ishtar tbh.And keep aligned so when the drones randomly aggro everything you can run away real quick. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.14 19:23:00 - [52] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 10/07/2007 21:25:04 You can run dual rep tank on ishar with battery and 3 t2 rechargers. (that leaves 1 slot for ab or something which you probably can't run all the time) To op, there is nothing that could match caldari. Can fly any galletne and none really impress me. But i'm comparing to caldari specialist so... With caldari, you have to switch targets in missions. with gallente, you agro everything in room, then let the drones and and go away.
Riho Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.14 21:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Halada Im not too far from an Astarte... setup plz? :D this setup has survived all missions.... exept angel extravaganza 6th stage (bonus stage).. i think its duable whit a very good faction fit tho :D 7x 250mm t2 rails whit antimatter 1x ab, 1x tracking computer, 1x web, 1x cap recharger t2 mar t2, dcu t2, ean t2, 2x hardeners, 1x magstab t2 1x rep ammount rig, 1x rep speed rig 5x med drones i havent botherd whit faction fit cause i dont need it :) --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog -----------------
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.14 22:13:00 - [54] Originally by: bldyannoyed To do lvl4's without warping in and out all the time you need a dual LAR setup that will run for at least a while. Needs 3 hardeners too really. Even with 3 CCC, 3 recharge II's and a CPR II you'd be real surprised how fast you cap out running both reps and your railguns. Have one LAR running all the time and use the other when needed. Works for me.
Solomunio Kzenig Amarr Ordo Ministorum	Posted - 2007.07.14 22:36:00 - [55] Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 14/07/2007 22:43:36 Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 14/07/2007 22:36:06 Originally by: bldyannoyed Megathron is a horrible horrible ship to do lvl4's with. I have virtually maxed out skills and i still die if i try and go near a lvl4 in one. It kinda suffers the way a lot of turret boats do for missioning, i.e. hitting stuff that runs in close. To do lvl4's without warping in and out all the time you need a dual LAR setup that will run for at least a while. Needs 3 hardeners too really. Even with 3 CCC, 3 recharge II's and a CPR II you'd be real surprised how fast you cap out running both reps and your railguns. Stick to a domi or an Ishtar tbh.And keep aligned so when the drones randomly aggro everything you can run away real quick. While turret boats are at a disadvantage vs Misslie and Drone boats regarding hitting stuff that gets close, i fail to see how a Mega sucks becasue of this. There are many strategies you can adopt to deal with close in NPC's: -That 125m dronebay? you can fit 5 light drones and 4 heavies. Use the lights to drop the fast orbiting frigs, heavies against those crusiers that like to close. -You get two missile hardpoint on a Mega. While fitting them is a bit of a waste (no damage bonus), with good missile skills Heavy Missiles can be used to blast webbers/scrammers etc. -Transversal and range are you friend, adopt a sniper approach and fit rails, on warp in the 1st thing you should do is head in the opposite direction from the nearest buch of NPC's (even before locking them). Open up some range before you let lose. -And lastly, manage the aggro as best you can (obviously this does not apply on some missions/stages), but for the bulk for missiosn you can selectively slay the rats. One Empire, One Emperor, One People, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.

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