Whoa... you killed 3 empty JF, then post a *really dramatic post* on CAOD talking about how you blew up 23.2 Bn worth of.... hulls and implants. No cargo to speak of, either. Oh, and y'all had to bring in a titan to help you, too

Because of this single "fight", we should just quit, since Occupational Hazard has hereby won EVE.

Congrats, wake me up when you have something newsworthy to say.

Whoa... you killed 3 empty JF, then post a *really dramatic post* on CAOD talking about how you blew up 23.2 Bn worth of.... hulls and implants. No cargo to speak of, either. Oh, and y'all had to bring in a titan to help you, too

Because of this single "fight", we should just quit, since Occupational Hazard has hereby won EVE.

Congrats, wake me up when you have something newsworthy to say.

Whoa... you killed 3 empty JF, then post a *really dramatic post* on CAOD talking about how you blew up 23.2 Bn worth of.... hulls and implants. No cargo to speak of, either. Oh, and y'all had to bring in a titan to help you, too

Because of this single "fight", we should just quit, since Occupational Hazard has hereby won EVE.

Congrats, wake me up when you have something newsworthy to say.

You just spent 4 weeks shooting SOV structures and losing fleets to Raiden...........wake us up when you attack and Alliance thats not already falling appart...
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You just spent 4 weeks shooting SOV structures and losing fleets to Raiden...........wake us up when you attack and Alliance thats not already falling appart...
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You just spent 4 weeks shooting SOV structures and losing fleets to Raiden...........wake us up when you attack and Alliance thats not already falling appart...
.

Oh... and let me know when you actually hold sov, and your alliance isn't hemorrhaging members/corps.

I can count the number of actual fleet fights we've had with WN./RDN/friends during our campaign to take Branch on one hand. During that campaign, we've also been sov-grinding over 90 systems, and have come out WAY ahead on the ISK war.

The object of the war was to take Branch, and have some "gudfites" if WN. wanted to bring it... which they didn't. We succeeded in our objective.

WN was down south getting bombed by me, and Mitini already knew they would not come to save the space. Logs in, gives a long bs speech about how goons and pets are going to go Gǣruin WN will to liveGǥ and then tells you all to shoot structures for a month in space some goon pet is going to be sentenced to live in as their reward for being loyal or somethingGǪ.

Hey, donGÇÖt be hatin on my pro bombing style all these years..itGÇÖs not easy being the only bomber on the filed during a 1,000 ship fleet fight trying to whoa on kmsGǪGǪ.and live!!..
.

Again- according to your amazing intel gathering (evenews24.com was about as accurate as Mintchip reporting on the Branch invasion), you didn't get to see the same mails we did, about the Hellcat Abaddons, IRC bombers (lol), the Red Alliance that never showed up, or Raiden who went and POS'd up, you know :ISKWAR: . WN. actually planned on defending their space, they just kinda pussyfooted out at the last minute; Inactive leadership, best leadership.

Again - you got to shoot structures for a month in a region some poor goon pets going to be told to live in. You're grasping at a few emails and some bomber ops to say they were going to put up a fight.......cool story bro...

Go fight some Alliances that actually have a pulse instead of constantly rolling in on floundering alliances.....oh thats right, you do all your fighting with Mitts political space gavel of justice....

Back on topic............great job on killin all those freighters!!

Hey Snot Shot - Did it occur to you that "Shooting structures for a month" in itself is a drasticly stupid statement to begin with?


Take Branch as a region for a example...the number of outposts (I beleive they even dropped a new one IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAMN SEIGE!)...the tech moons....true sec rating...value of the area overall.

Then take into account how much it took for us to freight train that entire region.


Normally.... assuming WN. actually gave a #### about their space...it would take a better part of 2 to 3 months if not longer to take that space.


A Month is honestly quite utterly fantastic in time terms.... no one said they had to give it to us on a gold platter...ok maybe it was gold rimmed with silver but they practicually did give it to us. *In reallity it was over inside of 2 weeks to be quite honest*

A month is a small price to pay over a seige that would last longer in normal terms.

You may think its boring as hell but lets factor in the SPEED at which its being accomlpished.


Lets be honest here...your really full of ####. That or Insanely Jealous.

You should be pokng WN. with a stick to ask them why they never bothered to put any effort into defense instead of leaning on all the others.

Glad your getting tons of kills.... hows that working out for you again?

That's going to leave a mark.

It was funny....I sat here trying to figure out why it buged me he kept saying that...then I realized I can't recall a seige ever going that bloody fast since I started playing EVE....I would sit on Dotlan during work and see entire const's. vanish from WN.

It's pretty damn obvious to me.

Nah bro- 100 system regions fall in 2 weeks.. all. the. damn. time.

Obviously we are the gutter dwellers, dangling from the coat tails of 'Mitini's' Inter-galactic Space Justice Gavel, plodding away like drones for no reward to speak of, all for the glory of the swarm (and bad posting on CAOD); which even still, is worth it to me- the bad posting part I mean.

There was absolutely NO fighting in Branch, White Noise did not lose 3 Jump Freighters, then an unfitted Nyx, 2 dozen tech moons, 30 outposts, 90+ systems, an Abaddon fleet, An Arty-Baddon Fleet, 37 Carriers, 9 CSAA's, or anything else worth defending (I'm sure I missed quite a bit in that stream of gloating, since that is just what I was around for).

Obviously we should feel bad for stomping a region into the ground- after all, they didn't want it anyway. I too remember back in the day, flying without a Ship Reimbursement Plan, and thought whoring onto killmails was the pinnacle of EvE .

Lyris Nairn is back people, and his terrible posting will destroy your will to log in!

Oh yeah and sick efficiency m8m8o7

Target region - Branch

67 Ships killed (4.48B ISK) 19 Ships lost (4.68B ISK) 48.92% Efficiency (ISK)

Totals: 67 4.48B 19 4.68B

Efficiency: 48.92%


No wonder you had to go to Dek to shoot retards in JFs lmao

Normally.... assuming WN. actually gave a #### about their space...it would take a better part of 2 to 3 months if not longer to take that space.

A Month is honestly quite utterly fantastic in time terms.... no one said they had to give it to us on a gold platter...ok maybe it was gold rimmed with silver but they practically did give it to us. *In reality it was over inside of 2 weeks to be quite honest*

A month is a small price to pay over a siege that would last longer in normal terms.

You may think itGÇÖs boring as hell but letGÇÖs factor in the SPEED at which itGÇÖs being accomplished.

You know who holds the record for losing 3 Regions the fastest in EVE historyGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪbooshGǪ..
.

Actually, I think that would be BoB... but I digress.

I stripped out the fluff so you could see my point. WN didnGÇÖt care and youGÇÖre all excited about the speed in which you got to shoot sov structures with almost nothing to show for it other than a region no one wants....

See the thing that I find sad about the existence of a goon, or goonie pet, is how easily you are all conned into thinking something Mittini has you do is the most fun you can have in this game.

They hold noobie drives to fool new players into spending their time in game making goonie CEOs isk without CEOs having to do anything other than toss the FCGÇÖs some isk once in a while to keep the sheep occupied. Sure you get a few ships tossed to you as you lose them, and get to spend down time ratting, but they get the taxes and moon goo incomeGǪGǪ..

You know who holds the record for losing 3 Regions the fastest in EVE historyGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪbooshGǪ..
.

And trust me when I say this.... Fidelas Constans is getting compensated very very....VERY...nicely.

We didn't get the ****** end of the stick on this one.

Two things I get from this:

1) Anyone that starts a sentence with "trust me"...............is lying...the deal ain't that good....

2) "We didn't"........means someone else in your "Assault Team" is getting the ***** end of the stick..........so who is it...
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Is there an audio file of you narrating this thread somewhere or do you have you head out the window of your space ship trying to yell over to me? There is no sound in space man!!....
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You two make quite a teamGǪGǪGǪ.what with the 20 kills and 2 losses total you share between each otherGǪGǪ.IGÇÖm surprised Branch didnGÇÖt fall fasterGǪGǪGǪ
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Drake, Snot is trolling you. Stop feeding him, and let him get back to hiding in a SB to mooch off PL killmails.

So that obviously makes you king dingaling with 41 kills?

Scrub.

Oh yeah and sick efficiency m8m8o7

Target region - Branch

67 Ships killed (4.48B ISK) 19 Ships lost (4.68B ISK) 48.92% Efficiency (ISK)

Totals: 67 4.48B 19 4.68B

Efficiency: 48.92%


No wonder you had to go to Dek to shoot retards in JFs lmao

OOOOOH.... Snot is all big and awesome because he got 400 kills mooching off of PL. I am basking in your glory, sir!

But in all seriousness... who the he** gives a flying **** whether a person has 50 or 5000 kills? I have 155 (88 if you remove POS mods - http://www.fatal-ascension.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=46271), and I still struggle to see what a person's number of kills has to do with the completely fail JF kills posted by the OP.

Maybe I missed a memo there, maybe I got bored with baiting and trolling a troll, or maybe I got distracted by work. Not sure which. All I know is that the OP's post is rather laughable, Snot still tries too hard trolling, and CAOD still delivers terrible threads.

Nah bro- 100 system regions fall in 2 weeks.. all. the. damn. time.

Obviously we are the gutter dwellers, dangling from the coat tails of 'Mitini's' Inter-galactic Space Justice Gavel, plodding away like drones for no reward to speak of, all for the glory of the swarm (and bad posting on CAOD); which even still, is worth it to me- the bad posting part I mean.

There was absolutely NO fighting in Branch, White Noise did not lose 3 Jump Freighters, then an unfitted Nyx, 2 dozen tech moons, 30 outposts, 90+ systems, an Abaddon fleet, An Arty-Baddon Fleet, 37 Carriers, 9 CSAA's, or anything else worth defending (I'm sure I missed quite a bit in that stream of gloating, since that is just what I was around for).

Obviously we should feel bad for stomping a region into the ground- after all, they didn't want it anyway. I too remember back in the day, flying without a Ship Reimbursement Plan, and thought whoring onto killmails was the pinnacle of EvE .

OOOOOH.... Snot is all big and awesome because he got 400 kills mooching off of PL. I am basking in your glory, sir!

But in all seriousness... who the he** gives a flying **** whether a person has 50 or 5000 kills? I have 155 (88 if you remove POS mods - http://www.fatal-ascension.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=46271), and I still struggle to see what a person's number of kills has to do with the completely fail JF kills posted by the OP.

Maybe I missed a memo there, maybe I got bored with baiting and trolling a troll, or maybe I got distracted by work. Not sure which. All I know is that the OP's post is rather laughable, Snot still tries too hard trolling, and CAOD still delivers terrible threads.

Holy shitballs, are you really trying to defend our honor to snot shot?

Good god you should be ashamed.

Whoa... you killed 3 empty JF, then post a *really dramatic post* on CAOD talking about how you blew up 23.2 Bn worth of.... hulls and implants. No cargo to speak of, either. Oh, and y'all had to bring in a titan to help you, too

Because of this single "fight", we should just quit, since Occupational Hazard has hereby won EVE.

Congrats, wake me up when you have something newsworthy to say.

You must have been so proud hitting "post" on that one until you went back to my stats and saw I hit 400 kills not 41......

It's ok.........you will get the hang of this poasting thing some day..
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I meant during during your "purging of White Noise".. are you really trying to brag about having 400 lifetimer kills?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753

You are truly a credit to the pvp community scrublord of epic proportions. You are
Essentially the VegasMirage of EC-P8R (or insert whatever nullsec entry system you have the balls
to afk in).

You are truly a credit to the pvp community scrublord of epic proportions. You are
Essentially the VegasMirage of EC-P8R (or insert whatever nullsec entry system you have the balls
to afk in).

Such open hostility!GǪ..

I started feeling bad about myself after I read what you saidGǪGǪ....... Then I looked up your KB stats of 154 life time kills with 74 being pos modsGǪGǪGǪGǪ..then I wentGǪGǪGǪ..

Next!!

Such open hostility!GǪ..

I started feeling bad about myself after I read what you saidGǪGǪ....... Then I looked up your KB stats of 154 life time kills with 74 being pos modsGǪGǪGǪGǪ..then I wentGǪGǪGǪ..

Next!!

Lol... I think my old toon is still #2 for kills in adopt.

I applaud your attempts to try and make killboard stats important as a diversionary tactic
try and detract away from the simple fact that two weeks still doesn't equate to a
month. That white noise didn't want branch anyway, And what has your alliance
done for you?

Adopt kills towers for a minimum of 1 billion isk. Does that money go to members? No.
Do the faction mods dropped from wt kills go to members? No.
Do yo get reimbursed for losses on ops? No.
Does adopt have full wallet transparency? No.

So where does this leave your slanderous inquest about the financial slaves to
Our all mighty master "mitini"?

Baseless, pointless, and unfounded.

I eagerly await your future mad-post response.






Fake edit: who the **** is "mitini" anyway.

I wasn't trying to defend our honor so much, but rather give snot a boatload of sh**.

Lol... I think my old toon is still #2 for kills in adopt.

I applaud your attempts to try and make killboard stats important as a diversionary tactic
try and detract away from the simple fact that two weeks still doesn't equate to a
month. That white noise didn't want branch anyway, And what has your alliance
done for you?

Adopt kills towers for a minimum of 1 billion isk. Does that money go to members? No.
Do the faction mods dropped from wt kills go to members? No.
Do yo get reimbursed for losses on ops? No.
Does adopt have full wallet transparency? No.

So where does this leave your slanderous inquest about the financial slaves to
Our all mighty master "mitini"?

Baseless, pointless, and unfounded.

I eagerly await your future mad-post response.

BTWGǪGǪGǪ.Kill mails donGÇÖt count if there are more than 30 pilots on itGǪGǪ
.

By this only 10 of your kills in December count, two or three of which were against WN.


So you killed a bunch of WN, but if we go by your own words....

Don't get to excited, bomber pilots are exempt from the rule...
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How many of those kills you "laid the final blow" ?

*sniffs*

You smell that?

Somethings burning.

Sorry I don't get it....bomber pilot does not need final blow..

The KM math for the bomber pilot is X number of pilots on the KM divided by X number of bombs the bomber pilot in question dropped during the op before dying. I dropped 6 bombs and didn't die so all my KMs are good...

Yes, I had a bud in system jettison 2 more bombs for me....
.

That completely went right over your head.

Hillarious.

...............ok
.

So by your own admission... not a single kill you whored onto in december actually ciunted then.

The only remaining solo artist in adopt is izzy epic. Lols at me getting kicked out.
That alliance has stagnated to the point VegasMirage was named an FC.. rico doesn't
Play anymore and eagle went on to better pastures after most of the good left to
Various portions of null or quit entirely.

Keep being dillusional, it looks good on you.

And spare me the details of the inner workings of adopt, pretty sure I've forgotten
More then you've ever known in that regard.


Also- while farming idiots in highsec.. it doesn't really matter if everything gets replaced does it?
(Lol tech moons make money that replace ships, idiot.)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9286988
That's about the artism of the Orphanage. Pls ignore the random apoc that wasn't on comms.

And about the OP, should we make a bragging topic each time we kill a JF? I'm a bit concerned with anti-spam policy...

I stripped out the fluff so you could see my point. WN didnGÇÖt care and youGÇÖre all excited about the speed in which you got to shoot sov structures with almost nothing to show for it other than a region no one wants....

http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=16649

one tech moon produces 100 units of that every hour

branch has 37 of those moons

wrap your lil brain around that

basically what i'm saying is you're dumb lawl

As far as the tech goes, these nubs arenGÇÖt going to see almost any of that tech isk and you know it. It gets used to pay for all the CFC leadershipGÇÖs time cards, the Supers they and their friends want, and GÇ£cost to keep up infrastructure and sovGÇ¥GǪGǪ You guys can scream all you want about it going to ship reimbursements but the simple facts are that the CFC donGÇÖt really fight anyone, other than structures, so you donGÇÖt lose enough ships on a regular basis to even put a chip in the billions the CFC leadership make every day on the moons and taxes you change your membersGǪ.

the amount of ISK we (i.e. GSF alone) pay out in reimbursements during a quiet month could buy a couple of titans, but feel free to bring some tinfoil my way son

You know that tactic never does anything useful

Don't get to excited, bomber pilots are exempt from the rule...
.

So you toss the pilots that don't follow orders or take dumb risks isk while the ones that follow orders and scout their routes don't see any return on their efforts as Alliance members grinding structures for you......thats cool bro...
.

So you toss the pilots that don't follow orders or take dumb risks isk while the ones that follow orders and scout their routes don't see any return on their efforts as Alliance members grinding structures for you......thats cool bro...
.

So you toss the pilots that don't follow orders or take dumb risks isk while the ones that follow orders and scout their routes don't see any return on their efforts as Alliance members grinding structures for you......thats cool bro...
.

Someone sure is jealous.

People Flying TOGETHER?
In an online, internet spaceship game?
On the INTERNET?

Inconceivable.

GSF has had peacetime reimbursement in place for months, even during some conflicts, it gets repealed usually to max participation I'm sure, but for the most part, if you fit your ships properly, you get your money back (even if you don't ask for it in some cases).

Whens the last time you got loot in Ad0pt?
Whens the last time you didn't get a weekly reminder about "we need isk donations for (insert lolempire reason here)?

Alot of people in the CFC has long since realized, that this game is in fact ****- it has its upsides, don't get me wrong, but for the most part, SpreadSheets Online isn't exactly edge of your seat riveting game play. You know what keeps us logging in?

Each other.

Amazing concept isn't it.

One day Snot, you might make friends- hell eventually, you might even find out what a girl tastes like

guys we grinded structures the fastest we are elite and good at this game

guys we grinded structures the fastest we are elite and good at this game

Holding space is too hard and makes people sad. Don't worry, we don't judge you for giving up and running away. It's not always an easy ride. It reminds me of the parable of the ant and the leprechaun, you see there was

GSF has had peacetime reimbursement in place for months, even during some conflicts, it gets repealed usually to max participation I'm sure, but for the most part, if you fit your ships properly, you get your money back (even if you don't ask for it in some cases).
Whens the last time you got loot in Ad0pt?
Whens the last time you didn't get a weekly reminder about "we need isk donations for (insert lolempire reason here)?
Alot of people in the CFC has long since realized, that this game is in fact ****- it has its upsides, don't get me wrong, but for the most part, SpreadSheets Online isn't exactly edge of your seat riveting game play. You know what keeps us logging in?
Each other.
Amazing concept isn't it.
One day Snot, you might make friends- hell eventually, you might even find out what a girl tastes like

If you don't take dumb risks in this game then I can't see how you can possibly have any fun.
Oh wait that's right, I'm talking to a dude who spends all his time camping the Jita undock. Risk is an alien concept to him.

CFC are nothing more than a giant herd of sheep that want to play EVE on "easy" level. Wars only against Alliances that are already stressed and most likely not to fight "sugar coated" with the "we aren't looking for gudfights" preemptive statements knowing full well that there won't be any....

You know Snot- I had this really great response for you, but :CCP:

Here's the nuts and bolts:



Your alliance is dying

Last Year's Kills vs This Year's Kills .

And on to my favorite bit:


At least we have the common decency to go to their systems, and take on the possibility of their supers, carriers, dreads, and what not at the disadvantage of not having an established (hopefully well thought out) infrastructure; What I mean to say is, at least we go expecting a fight, and don't sit on an undock and maim the unfortunate newbs that just joined, don't know any better, or havn't made the plunge yet. You're right Snot, except that if we are giant sheep, your are the bottom feeding dirt munching **** tubes waiting for our sphincter's to expand and squeeze out a fresh turd.

common decency

No not this never this. We will never be common, and we will never, ever be decent.

It was a relative statement, taken out of context.. since :CCP: forums are about as well written as Snot's efforts are at making a counter-argument; do not worry fair readers, we are still as terrible as ever (probably twice that even).

don't worry sometimes i get halfway through a post and forget how it started too

That's ok because you're whacky!!............or was it mad cap?................sorry just trying to keep up with coolness in which you roll......
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But the important question is did you salvage the JFs? They should drop loads of T2 salvage

Wonders when the pvpers will realize that not one single isk is destroyed when they kill a ship... unless of course it's full of BPO's.

Wonders when the pvpers will realize that not one single isk is destroyed when they kill a ship... unless of course it's full of BPO's.

I'm curious to know how you arrived at this conclusion.

He is presumably referring to the fact that (except for cases of CONCORD intervention) ship destruction in EVE creates previously non-existent ISK by means of an insurance payout, and that while the owner of the ship might be out a sum of ISK equal to the cost of the ship, that sum of ISK was never actually lost: it was merely transferred to another player at the time of ship purchase. From this perspective ISK is only lost in EVE by certain dedicated sinks, such as payments to NPC entities for taxes, insurance purchases, loyalty point exchanges, repairs and clones, in that only these specific actions cause the total amount of ISK circulating in the economy to decrease. I might have missed a few, but the ones I listed illustrate the point.

e: If he is referring to anything else, then I have no clue what.

I thought of that, but insurance payouts often fail to cover expensive modules or the true cost of Tech 2 hulls.

Again, we're talking about the amount of total ISK in the EVE economy, not the amount that an individual player has.

Let's say I want to buy a Rifter, and no modules. You sell me one via the trade window in VFK-IV for 500,000 ISK. There has been a net change of zero ISK in the EVE economy as a result of this sale; instead, money simply was moved around, "changing hands" as it were, from me to you. Now, if I undock in that Rifter and self-destruct it or get shot by anyone other than CONCORD, the Pend Insurance non-player entity generates an insurance payout from nowhere, and ISK that previously did not exist is added to my wallet; there has been a net increase in the amount of ISK in the EVE economy. This same logic can be applied to any ship purchase. Whether the insurance payout pays for the cost of the ship and its fitting is completely irrelevant, since the point is that the insurance payout is itself previously non-existent ISK that was spontaneously generated and added to the EVE economy at the time of the ship's destruction.

As soon as you realize most of us could care less about 'space money'.

I know exactly what you mean, but you're leaving out the bit when the ship and all its modules are destroyed. They can all be assigned value in ISK, so when they disappear, effectively so too does a sum of ISK.

Keep pressing F1, F2, F3. I'm glad you can obtain dopamine so easily.

Then it seems to be a strange metric to use for measuring your epeens with on all the killboards.

How do you figure that? The module was purchased from another player for isk. That other player still has the isk when the module is destroyed. No isk is removed from the game. No - what you are referring to is that to buy a new module, isk must be transferred from the loser's wallet to the wallet of another module seller. However this does not remove isk from the EVE universe. It just moves it from one player to another.

The only thing that arguably removes isk from the universe is podding, because implants cost money at the LP store (an isk sink) and medical clone upgrades cost money too (another isk sink). The values used for killboards for implants however are usually the market values. Most implants actually are obtained far cheaper by also using LP. The process of getting LP means mission completion, which means that at one point you had to get mission rewards and bounties, too. So the total isk removed from the game when you lose an implant is much less than you think. But if you think ship killing destroys a single isk you are mistaken. However a lack of understanding of how things actually work fits the pvper stereotype quite well. Keep pressing F1, F2, F3. I'm glad you can obtain dopamine so easily.

How do you figure that? The module was purchased from another player for isk. That other player still has the isk when the module is destroyed. No isk is removed from the game. No - what you are referring to is that to buy a new module, isk must be transferred from the loser's wallet to the wallet of another module seller. However this does not remove isk from the EVE universe. It just moves it from one player to another.