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Joanne Prescott
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:02:00 -
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Afaik FE is in fountain to stay, you wont get thier miners since all their fighters will stay there to protect them.
All that is needed are factury and research slotts wich they already have.
We'll see  on both points.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:06:00 -
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But the fact remains that we fly freely through out the region while the few FA members that have not left the region are on the constant running from our teams.
Wow, that sounds like Evolution in Curse Alliance. That mean they have "fallen" too?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:09:00 -
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The FA might not be DEAD in the strictest sense. That is, they probably are having meetings and all that, in station where it's safe.
But FA does seem totally decapatated and impotent.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:13:00 -
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But the fact remains that we fly freely through out the region while the few FA members that have not left the region are on the constant running from our teams.
Wow, that sounds like Evolution in Curse Alliance. That mean they have "fallen" too?
Does Curse alliance go on mining ops?
if yes then they havent fallen.
In the case of FA its no.
So it should be safe to say that they have fallen, they may rise again but now as an Alliance they have crumbled and are seeking help from 3 different alliances, Venal, Stain and Outer Ring.
Thats not really worthy of being called a regional alliance if they cant manage thier own.
So since those 4 regional alliances are fighting togather shall we then not assume that they are indeed just 1 big alliance, or is it the case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kinda thing?
If so then it is only logical that members from Curse come to attack FA, after all FA did go to Curse to attack them and all that.
Spawn of the Devil
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 25/01/2004 03:24:29
Omni kills me with his colorful <edit>rhetoric which tells us that we are not doing stuff which we know we are... mainly mining</edit> stuff 
no wait.. he hasn't...
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:15:00 -
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Did it ever occur to you we might do things you don't know about, Omniwar? 
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:16:00 -
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And for those who will come and say that if FA does not go on mining ops does not mean they have fallen.
Regional Alliances are made to monopolize the ore in that region, if they cant mine then there is no need for the alliance to excist.
Spawn of the Devil
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:16:00 -
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Heh, looks like there could be a huge universal war in the makings, which would be hella fun!
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:19:00 -
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Omni kills me with his colorful stuff
no wait.. he hasn't...
Is this trolling?
Since it has nothing to do with the topic and all that, try to be not so simple minded Riddari and stick to your own beliefs, calling others trolls in other threads and then doing it your self is, what is the word for it ? hipocrit.
Spawn of the Devil
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:23:00 -
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:39:00 -
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If so then it is only logical that members from Curse come to attack FA, after all FA did go to Curse to attack them and all that.
While I don't dispute the logic behind that statement, I would have to point out that CA corps like ngru, going to attack FA, while we rampage thru their alliance at will killing as we like, seems to be a rather odd strategy. OTOH, maybe they are just riding your coat-tails, on the way to another "magnificent" victory
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:42:00 -
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If FE try to take the region and use it for mining large scale they will be faced with the same inescapable problem we have: its not possible to adequately protect the region, due to the game mechanics. So they will get attacked by FA forces while they haul/mine whatever and so it will go on.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:47:00 -
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the FA fell????
i must have blinked and missed it
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Zeus
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:47:00 -
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But the fact remains that we fly freely through out the region while the few FA members that have not left the region are on the constant running from our teams.
Wow, that sounds like Evolution in Curse Alliance. That mean they have "fallen" too?
Does Curse alliance go on mining ops?
if yes then they havent fallen.
In the case of FA its no.
So it should be safe to say that they have fallen, they may rise again but now as an Alliance they have crumbled and are seeking help from 3 different alliances, Venal, Stain and Outer Ring.
Thats not really worthy of being called a regional alliance if they cant manage thier own.
So since those 4 regional alliances are fighting togather shall we then not assume that they are indeed just 1 big alliance, or is it the case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kinda thing?
If so then it is only logical that members from Curse come to attack FA, after all FA did go to Curse to attack them and all that.
Curse are mining?
Could of fooled me 
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Joanne Prescott
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:52:00 -
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Today a group of up to 68 ships is taking out FA including their secure cans:
Pictures and movies to come.
just for info..we have retaken YZ-LQL..there are 10 bad guys and 30 FA in local YZ...and no sign of the bad guys in the stations, they might be at those awful nasstyyy safe spots.
  ...point being see how friggin pointless these threads are!
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.25 03:56:00 -
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yes but the difference is thats bull****.
you cannot defeat an alliance as any two corps can theoretically say they are an alliance.
you can however be in more control of a region than another group of people.
at this juncture is is fair to see that we are in more control of fountain than the FA.
That is about as far as u can go.
Stav
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Trooble
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Posted - 2004.01.25 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: Trooble on 25/01/2004 04:02:32
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yes but the difference is thats bull****.
And the stuff you guys post isnt?
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you can however be in more control of a region than another group of people.
Yeah this is true, its called different timezones in the real world.
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.01.25 04:02:00 -
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yes but the difference is thats bull****.
you cannot defeat an alliance as any two corps can theoretically say they are an alliance.
you can however be in more control of a region than another group of people.
at this juncture is is fair to see that we are in more control of fountain than the FA.
That is about as far as u can go.
Stav
Pretty much... the balance may tip, but its just gonna be like a seesaw forever
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Zen Later
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Posted - 2004.01.25 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zen Later on 25/01/2004 08:25:27
Edited by: Zen Later on 25/01/2004 08:25:05
@ the NVA/T-N-A/PA/whatever-a...Seriously, are you all that bored or just that lost in this game that you can't find anyone else to go cling to to derive some kind of self-worth and/or self-meaning? Here's some friendly words of advice...just let go of the past already and carve your own path that doesn't keep tumbling down the same damn hill you've been on for how long now and gotten where exactly?
Some 411 about this fleet that was 'ran away from'...Any average forum goer by now should know all about the self proclaimed greatness of the NVA/T-N-A/PA/whatever-a and it's all to familiar cast of forum warriors that proudly post over and over and over and over and over again about how fearsome you all supposedly are. How's about going out and proving it somewhere else? Both our side and your side has been there, done that and bought the damn t-shirt factory.
@ those reading this thread, not involved in the conflict directly and wondering about the Fountain War and why you see claims that the FA is dead...
- Since the FA has chosen to define it's identity by being a regional alliance based out of Fountain (which even serves as it's namesake), FA must demonstrate control over that region or at a bare minimum the core strategic systems that comprise Fountain.
- What's left of the FA forces are not in control of Fountain and have not been in complete control of the core systems that comprise Fountain for sometime now.
- The situation has only gotten better for the Allied forces leading the attack on Fountain. Yes, early on in the conflict there were times when it was ye olde numbers game but not anymore. FA's only real advantage in the early days of the war was spurts of slightly greater to superior numbers. That advantage has now been negated as there are near to equal to superior numbers of Allied forces facing FA members daily. Quite simply, FA forces will not engage a force of equal to greater size while at the same time Allied forces have been more than willing to punish FA fleets larger than it's own.
-Allied forces now dominate control over the core Fountain systems...trying to eek out some kind of existance off scraps from the fringe areas and somehow sneak them out does not qualify. Non-FA members would be killed by Allied forces in far greater numbers and with far greater ease than what's left of the FA's forces could possiblely do. Rest assured Allied forces have already been conducting highly successful mining operations which have gone on largely undisturbed.
-FA and FA allied blockades on the primary exit/entry corridor have been rendered ineffectual...when you refuse to even engage an equal to lesser force and you are retreated to a safe location and ships pass through at their leisure you have been rendered ineffectual by any yardstick.
- FA forces continue to suffer heavy material losses on a daily basis compared to the light to zero losses suffered by Allied forces on the exact same daily basis...yet another undeniable measure on the yardstick.
Now you are more than likely going to read the usual rebutals, a few flames here and there and probably the usual '...pfft! Yeah, but what does all that supposed to prove?'. I'm sure any mature and sane gamer would realize that the FA has been defeated on several fronts and now lies as a relic in Eve history.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.25 08:38:00 -
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the FA fell????
i must have blinked and missed it
Yeah I know! We expected more of a fight too.
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Primo x
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Posted - 2004.01.25 08:42:00 -
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Today a group of up to 68 ships is taking out FA including their secure cans:
Pictures and movies to come.
just for info..we have retaken YZ-LQL..there are 10 bad guys and 30 FA in local YZ...and no sign of the bad guys in the stations, they might be at those awful nasstyyy safe spots.
...point being see how friggin pointless these threads are!
hummm,, when was you here?
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.25 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 25/01/2004 08:49:18
Re: comparing Fountain to Curse, I think it's fair to say it's totally different. Curse has a number of important systems - I guess HLW would be the main hub, but when I was active there LJ, that one that starts with P, that one that starts with O that's near catch, etc., were all very busy. Corps are scattered all over the place, and the open nature that made Curse so difficult to defend also made it very difficult to effectively shut down. While one system was blockaded many others were running as if nothing was happening, and there was usually still an open route to/from empire space.
Fountain, on the other hand, only has one exit, and all of the stations are clustered in a bunch of 5 or so system. YZ-LQL Essentially IS Fountain - whoever controls it more or less controls the region. OK, some people may be grid mining or whatever in a side system or two, but unless the map is totally FUBAR this is not happening very often or on a large scale. When YZ-LQL is in our control (as it has been during nearly all the time I've been there - granted I'm prone to boredom and have been leaving to putz around in Khanid and Aridia during the [now commonplace] lulls) Fountain is effectively shut down.
So, while the situation may be similar for the uber independent corp in the area (if Evol are indeed doing whatever they wish - I'm in no position to contest this as I haven't been there or paid attention to what's happening there in a long time), I don't think the comparison really works.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.25 08:52:00 -
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Uh, so I just re-read ProphetGuru's post and realized it didn't really say what I thought it said.
Whoops. Too much to drink :]
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Kaiser
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Posted - 2004.01.25 09:31:00 -
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nuts :)
another stupid thread by gate campers.
I played all friday and saturday morning in fountain. your ONLY presence was the usual silly camping 1 SINGLE gate in the whole fountain region.
i was even able to move my ore from 2 bases without troubles. and you say you own fountain...LOL
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.25 09:49:00 -
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If so then it is only logical that members from Curse come to attack FA, after all FA did go to Curse to attack them and all that.
While I don't dispute the logic behind that statement, I would have to point out that CA corps like ngru, going to attack FA, while we rampage thru their alliance at will killing as we like, seems to be a rather odd strategy. OTOH, maybe they are just riding your coat-tails, on the way to another "magnificent" victory
CA rampaging through Fountain : 7 battleship kills and about as many cruisers
Evol rampaging through : woohoo we got an indie
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PAPA
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Posted - 2004.01.25 09:52:00 -
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OMG since u made it, it must b true
THERE ARE NO PIRATES IN FA SPACE YOU ARE ALL SAFE AGAIN YZ-LQL IS NOW OPEN FEEL FREE 2 JUMP IN 
NO REALLY, NO BAD GUYS THERE NOW,
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OmegaPsycho
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Posted - 2004.01.25 10:17:00 -
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these threads r lame already people need to grow up or something
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OmegaPsycho
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Posted - 2004.01.25 10:21:00 -
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heres an idea how about everyone keeps there immature threads off the forums and proves who killed who with SCREENSHOTS or VIDEOS because i would much rather watch a vid or look at a pic then see all this immature SPAM FEST
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Guidelines For opening a "Thread of Smack Talking" on Forums:
a)Have a pic,video or chat log of how u owned the player or Corp. if not then STFU!!! k?
b)If someone has pwned u because u suck at EVE do not come crying to the forums cause NO 1 GIVES A FLYING DUCK!!! k?
c)If someone has "ganked" u "HARD" because of "poor game mechanics" send in a "Petition" don't come crying to forums. k?
d) last but not least, If u do not have something constructive to say on the forums then STFU!! k?
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.01.25 10:48:00 -
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OMG since u made it, it must b true
THERE ARE NO PIRATES IN FA SPACE YOU ARE ALL SAFE AGAIN YZ-LQL IS NOW OPEN FEEL FREE 2 JUMP IN
NO REALLY, NO BAD GUYS THERE NOW,
Bad guys? Pirates?
What happened to the "we're liberating fountain" campaign
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.01.25 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 25/01/2004 08:49:18
Fountain, on the other hand, only has one exit,
2 , i ran through that one 
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