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General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:43:00 - [1] I notice that, since Goonswarm have been suffering some horrific combat losses recently, they've started playing the 'we're only noobs in t1 frigs' card again to justify the fact that they seem to need 2x - 4x the numbers of their opponent to fight. This intrigued me as, to be honest, I'm pretty sick to death of Goons pretending to be heroic nooblings, fighting against the odds. So I thought I'd do a bit of research, and take a look at the last 10 players killed by GS, and the last 10 killers. Makes interesting reading... GOONFLEET PILOTS Mykow (T2 ship and guns) Von Kleist (BS and T2 drones) Lungdung (Battleship) Sion Kum (T2 ship and guns) Voire Dire (Battleship) Raith II (T1) General Brusilov (T2 ship and guns) Malkazi (T2 guns) Spacebeaver (T2 guns) Insurance risk (T2 ship and guns) GOONFLEET'S KILLS Brightlight 1 (t1 frig) RIck Rothsar (T1 frig) Tansien (BS) Astroflyer (T2 ship) Conall (t1 ship) Ghentryl (T1 frig) Leonardo (T2 ship) Han SHan (T1 ship) Deschenus Maximus (T2 ship) Thove (T1 ship) So seriously, Goons, there's only so long you can try to keep this little bit of propaganda going. I know even GS pilots know not to trust a word a Goon says (anyone else remember their vow to leave the game en masse, taking huge amounts of subscription revenue with them when they had their little forum tantrum?) but I thought it was time to dispel this particular goon myth. The vast majority of your combat pilots have perfectly good equipment, perfectly good skills, and a clearly just pretty inept.
Erik Amirault Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:45:00 - [2] General Windypops molests little children, quote this if you're down
FourthStorm Shinra	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:46:00 - [3] And what is your point exactly?
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:48:00 - [4] HI ALT. omg im in bobvsgoon thread :D
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Erik Amirault General Windypops has downs, quote this if you molest little children
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:53:00 - [6] Don't worry, those pilots will be kicked from Goonswarm for violating our code of honor. Let this serve as a warning to any other goonswarm pilots who are thinking about flying t2.
Lee Bian Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:57:00 - [7] i'm mostly surprised somebody managed to make sense or our killboard
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:59:00 - [8] Edited by: General Windypops on 12/07/2007 09:58:54 ^^ Thank god we've got Goons in the game to raise the standard of the forums... Anyone else remember when we used to have a game community to be proud of?
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:59:00 - [9] Maybe it's because it's the few goons in t2 stuff that get the finishing hits, not the screaming horde of t1 frigate cannon fodder? ---- This is an alt
Aya Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.07.12 09:59:00 - [10] OMG K/D RATIO!!!11!!!!11 Seriously OP take a look at RA/TCF killboard and look at that little rifter fleet they made that took down all BS/t2 ships. Also i fail to see how the last 10 kills justify that omgthegoonsarelosing (Not an alt, in the middle of a corp change..give it a few hours mods)
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:00:00 - [11] Originally by: Raem Civrie Maybe it's because it's the few goons in t2 stuff that get the finishing hits, not the screaming horde of t1 frigate cannon fodder? Not based on finishing hits, based on participation.
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Aya OMG K/D RATIO!!!11!!!!11 Seriously OP take a look at RA/TCF killboard and look at that little rifter fleet they made that took down all BS/t2 ships. Also i fail to see how the last 10 kills justify that omgthegoonsarelosing (Not an alt, in the middle of a corp change..give it a few hours mods) Nothing to do with KD ratio, so stop trying to derail yet another thread with pointless catchphrases. Nothing to do with omgthegoonsarelosing. It's to do with the self-propogated myth that Goons are low skillpoint, low equipment cost pilots.
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:01:00 - [13] This community you were proud of, was it the same community that had rather questionable t2 bpo's?
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Fry Fortune This community you were proud of, was it the same community that had rather questionable t2 bpo's? No, it was a community that didn't mock the dead, didn't launch smear campaigns to attempt to destroy the game for all players because they'd been found out as liars, and didn't then spam the forums with racist images and illegal content when they got in a huff.
Arl GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:03:00 - [15] Originally by: General Windypops Nothing to do with KD ratio, so stop trying to derail yet another thread with pointless catchphrases. Nothing to do with omgthegoonsarelosing. It's to do with the self-propogated myth that Goons are low skillpoint, low equipment cost pilots. Hi Mum, Dad sent me to tell you he wants something to eat, he said to tell you he really hopes you aren't trolling eve-o again, not after what happend last time.
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:04:00 - [16] A 1 1/2 year old corp with 3000+ members has some people with T2 ships. ITS A SCANDAL I TELL YAS. Dork. ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:05:00 - [17] ok so wait... are goons better or worse than they say they are? cos you have confused me. MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Arl Originally by: General Windypops Nothing to do with KD ratio, so stop trying to derail yet another thread with pointless catchphrases. Nothing to do with omgthegoonsarelosing. It's to do with the self-propogated myth that Goons are low skillpoint, low equipment cost pilots. Hi Mum, Dad sent me to tell you he wants something to eat, he said to tell you he really hopes you aren't trolling eve-o again, not after what happend last time. Are you able to actually respond in any constructive way, or is your only approach when rattled to launch personal attacks?
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Minigin ok so wait... are goons better or worse than they say they are? cos you have confused me. Better equipped than you claim to be, therefore even more incompetent than we thought you were.
Valdis Corick GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:09:00 - [20] Edited by: Valdis Corick on 12/07/2007 10:09:17 OMG GOONS FLYING T2!!!111 IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!11 Now all this thread needs is a point :( snip Inappropriate signature -Eldo ([email protected])
Mayalla Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:11:00 - [21] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Arl Originally by: General Windypops Nothing to do with KD ratio, so stop trying to derail yet another thread with pointless catchphrases. Nothing to do with omgthegoonsarelosing. It's to do with the self-propogated myth that Goons are low skillpoint, low equipment cost pilots. Hi Mum, Dad sent me to tell you he wants something to eat, he said to tell you he really hopes you aren't trolling eve-o again, not after what happend last time. Are you able to actually respond in any constructive way, or is your only approach when rattled to launch personal attacks? How is it possible to lunch a personal attack against an alt? Against something that does not exist? http://lost.eu/577f1
BuIIseye Amarr Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Erik Amirault General Windypops molests little children, quote this if you're down ------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:20:00 - [23] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Minigin ok so wait... are goons better or worse than they say they are? cos you have confused me. Better equipped than you claim to be, therefore even more incompetent than we thought you were. /me looks at his own ticker... hmmmmm remarkably goonless... but then... if you claim they are so incompetant... one would think bob would have removed them from 9-9 by now? MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
S1ckness GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:23:00 - [24] Originally by: General Windypops Better equipped than you claim to be, therefore even more incompetent than we thought you were. So your point is that goons are incompetent? Is this supposed to be some huge revelation or something?
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:25:00 - [25] Originally by: S1ckness Originally by: General Windypops Better equipped than you claim to be, therefore even more incompetent than we thought you were. So your point is that goons are incompetent? Is this supposed to be some huge revelation or something? yes because the op states that goons arnt as incompetant as they claim... but they are so incompetant that they lose expencive ships and kill cheep ones... MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
Aya Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:34:00 - [26] Edited by: Aya on 12/07/2007 10:34:41 Hey goons You lost all those ships to kill a TECH 1 Titan OLOLOLOL YOU SUCK Btw: i fail to see how the OP can claim that his post is "Constructive criticism"
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:35:00 - [27] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 12/07/2007 09:58:54 ^^ Thank god we've got Goons in the game to raise the standard of the forums... Anyone else remember when we used to have a game community to be proud of? You mean there was a time where there were no spineless players hiding behind alts while smacking their enemies When was that? ------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 12/07/2007 09:58:54 ^^ Thank god we've got Goons in the game to raise the standard of the forums... Anyone else remember when we used to have a game community to be proud of? You mean there was a time where there were no spineless players hiding behind alts while smacking their enemies When was that? Unfortunately, your smack doesn't stick. Not an alt my dear chap. Is it your assumption that only people with a BoB alliance ticker loathe what the goons have done to the game? If so, you're painfully misguided.
NOObbody Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:41:00 - [29] Thats gonna make into evening news! --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.12 10:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 12/07/2007 09:58:54 ^^ Thank god we've got Goons in the game to raise the standard of the forums... Anyone else remember when we used to have a game community to be proud of? You mean there was a time where there were no spineless players hiding behind alts while smacking their enemies When was that? probably the same time that bob had a dev commanding their capfleet. you know the good ole days. snip Please do not troll with your signature. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo Davip([email protected])

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