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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.06.07 18:50:00 -
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Is it safe to assume this means they're going to make empire space more secure in general? Does this have anything to do with m00's activities in Mara?
Very exiting :)
(See news)
Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 07/06/2003 18:50:34
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2003.06.07 18:52:00 -
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Concord Special Ops ships look badass. =)
However they have messed up stats and I fear won't be much of a match for m0o until CCP fixes their stats.
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Syniteon
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Posted - 2003.06.07 19:50:00 -
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Hey we got any pics?
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.06.07 19:56:00 -
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Taken by my alt char:
http://aphax.nl/images/eve/concord1.jpg
http://aphax.nl/images/eve/concord2.jpg
http://aphax.nl/images/eve/concord3.jpg
http://aphax.nl/images/eve/concord4.jpg
Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 07/06/2003 20:26:00
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Shintai
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Posted - 2003.06.07 20:12:00 -
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Nice to see the empire doing something against mass murderes. Now we can get pirates back and not mass murderes ;)
I wonder how mOo feels to be on this side of the table, that the rest of us have suffered from mOo so long. Are they going to take it like the rest of us or do the Waah-Waah song? ;)
Edited by: Shintai on 07/06/2003 20:15:41
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.06.07 20:20:00 -
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This Reverend guy was quite ****ed off and was claiming things would get even thougher for newbies from now on blah blah yada yada. Like they weren't killing them already.
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Shintai
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Posted - 2003.06.07 20:39:00 -
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5? Funny since there is only 4 specials ;)
And 1 shot..don¦t you think it's the same talk as the one mOo do 10000dmg in 10sec. So maybe that wasn¦t what happend? ;)
EDIT: Arhh..edited and removed your post was...quite nice ;)
Edited by: Shintai on 07/06/2003 20:40:39
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.06.07 21:11:00 -
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I hope the GM's didn't podkill them. It'd be rather amusing watching them try to get to one of their other ships given that just about everyone in the game would LOVE to podkill any of them :)
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.06.07 21:44:00 -
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Apparently one of them tried to run, warped away, and a GM chased him down and podkilled him.
I'm all for the devs changing the game to allow Mo0's antics to be stopped by game mechanics but this type of Deus Ex Machina activity sucks! Is this what we can expect in the future? When the players find things that the devs forgot can we expect instant rollbacks, massive designer intervention and general mayhem while the GMs try to keep us all on a leash?
Not good. Not good at all.
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Demangel
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:09:00 -
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Not good? This was glorious! M0o wasn't camped out in low sec land beyond the empires, they frigging terrorized a major choke point LOL.
I LOVE pirates, and mass murdering corps in the game, but camping that choke point was a BIG mistake. LOL And the GM's riding in waving the god hammer must have been a sight to see heheh. Gm's need to have fun once in a blue moon too you know :)
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:12:00 -
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This was sweet.
Seriously, WHY would the empires tolerate this kind of anarchy? Of course they smashed it.
Duh.
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Luxer
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:15:00 -
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Such battleships should be a usual sight along the most busy traderoutes.
That way, no-one can camp the jumpgates for long, and pirates will have more hit-and-run tactics.
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Radzz
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:17:00 -
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About time action was taken by a State to protect its own citizens and territory.
My only remaing question is why did it take so long?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:18:00 -
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Hi,
they camped a 0.4 system in empire space threatening empire citizens doing a nice massacre.
Now they got chased off by special ops forces, which would say to me: "Camp elsewhere or move a bit out of our space or mess around with our citizens when you can stand the heat of our special forces."
Such an action is fully consistent for me with the EVE universe.
Action, reaction. Cause, effect.
Stop whining. And other corps get ready to be the one who react and do the effects. We cant rely on CONCORD forever.
Bye...
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
agrizla
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Posted - 2003.06.07 22:27:00 -
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I rather agree with Sabahl - the in-game cops should be able to deal with this. It shouldn't take two days of escalating complaints for manual intervention to be taken in EMPIRE SPACE. To me this shows the security level model is broken.
No argument people - it is! OK so in this instance they were in a 0.4 system but they've been in 1.0 systems killing players and cops with impunity AND docking at the station afterwards.
So basically sec rating and cops mean nothing in the game. Can we all say "totally b0rked"?
I have a week left on my free month and I'll be watching with interest what approach CCP take. Basically you kill anyone in high sec zones then I cannot for the life of me see why you should have docking rights in ANY high sec zone - or even in any empire system of that faction. Hell you can kill cops and STILL dock and leave a station in the same system.
Needs sorting - it'll be interesting to see whether it gets done. My bet is that it doesn't and if that's the case I'm off.
Good game but too many really dumb things in it I'm afraid....
Edit - by kill I mean podkill OK?
Edited by: agrizla on 07/06/2003 22:29:22
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Elias Root
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Posted - 2003.06.07 23:25:00 -
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Bah! I seem to be missing all the fun stuff :( I certainly agree with the action taken - as I said in another post how would we expect an ultra-capitalist, millitaristic state to react to the seizing of a major commercial route? M0o should have considered this before they went there.
M0o have enjoyed the run of the game since it launched and it's nice to see the odds evened a little by an approriate response to their behaviour.
I don't see this as imbalanced, and I would assume that it wouldn't be a standard response to pirate activity in general. Let pirates camp a gate, attack on sight, charge for passage, and even podkill - these are all parts of the way the game is meant to be played, but taking over a central system for days is not piracy so much as an attack on sovereignty.
If pirates want to avoid undue notice they need to work for it - if they want to take over a system for themselves it would need to be a low sec, outlying system that the state won't be too bothered about chasing them in. If they want to attack commercial transports they will need to make use of hit and run tactics to get in and out before the authorities get there.
The games has PvP elements but it relies just as much on trade and mining as player on player combat.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.06.07 23:57:00 -
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You seem to be missing the point here Elias? m0o have been doing this for TWO DAYS now - absolutely no response from GM's or devs until today. That's 2 days that some newbies have no doubt decided "stuff paying for this".
Take a look at the Ideas board - I've posted something in there that if people actually stop and think it through would mean that it would be possible for a corp like m0o to have a blockade for perhaps a day in Empire space but it would naturally end and a few of them would be podkilled near the end.
See what you think.....
Edited by: agrizla on 07/06/2003 23:57:06
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Miyamoto
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Posted - 2003.06.08 01:15:00 -
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Well buddy they were probably waiting for the players to take them out, but that didnt happen did it? I wonder who to blame.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.06.08 01:30:00 -
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I blame nobody. It¦s a simple rule: You mess with CONCORD in empire space... you get blown to pieces. This is how the universe works and if any Pirate thinks that he can get away with dacing on CONCORD¦s nose in their territory then he doesn¦t have to wonder if they come and show him what the real deal is.
CCP have finally made CONCORD an enemy you wouldn¦t want to face and that¦s good. It keeps high-sec space safe and that¦s how it¦s supposed to be.
I can see no imbalance or "abuse of GM-power" here. It¦s simply CONCORD.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.06.08 02:52:00 -
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Well there clearly has been some misuse of power here. They didnt enter the system in the usual way but instead spawned right onto of my corp members. When warping to a moon to try and escape we found that they had a battleship waiting everytime. They didnt have enough hships to camp all the gates and moons, so clearly they were abusing their admin rights. They tried the other day with cruisers and failed so now we find ourselves in a situation where the GMs effectively cheating to save face. Suck it up CCP
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.08 03:14:00 -
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Hi,
"They tried the other day with cruisers and failed so now we find ourselves in a situation where the GMs effectively cheating to save face. Suck it up CCP"
That's why they are called Game Masters.
They can make things happen. They got the tools.
Go and play some pen and paper role playing games first. Maybe you will then learn some things...
I usualy used a cow from outer space, dropping it with an amazing speed on the cowards, who shot too many innocents for fun.
Call me a GM cheating to save his face.
Meanwhile I rip your character sheet. A cow killed you.
Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
Bye...
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Scotty
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Posted - 2003.06.08 15:36:00 -
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I support the devs actions in this.
It would be nice if the game itself made it more difficult for pirates by not allowing base docking rights and gate access in empire space, but that might take time to code up and test. Something needed to be done sooner, and I'm glad the devs took some action. I wish they had done more.
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Loki Prime
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Posted - 2003.06.08 18:35:00 -
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I can see the point of m0o here but completely agree with the actions of the GMs. Pirates are a big part of the game, without them it would be a distorted universe where mining or killing NPC ships is the fun to be had.
Pirates however are small bands of warriors who plunder what they can and then retire to their base to revel in their new won spoils. Thinking that you can choke hold a major portion of space in the Empire and then expect the Empires to just think hey ho never mind, nothing we can do, is just plain dumb. Of course they can do something. They just tool up their best battleships with there best weapons and come and tear you a new one. Which in my opinion is all they have done.
Why do you pod newbies ?
There are 2 possible reasons for this.
1. You are lame greifers who think you are cool cos you can pod people.
2. You are trying to role play and do what you think real pirates would do by podding.
Well if its 1. then you not only deserved what you got, you deserved to be booted aswell as podded.
If its 2. then they were just roleplaying and doing what they thought the empires would do.
Either way get over it and get on with the game, or leave, its upto you. they are your options.
Edited by: Loki Prime on 08/06/2003 18:36:44
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Bambi
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Posted - 2003.06.08 19:08:00 -
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Well done CCP.
If people wish to play PvP characters tehn do it in unclaimed space. If you will be pirates in systems claimed by the empires, then you must expect the empires to strike back. (sorry)
If God made us to be just like him, then God is dumb and maybe a little ugly on the side...[F.Z] |
Petra Gibson
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Posted - 2003.06.08 19:57:00 -
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No one has mentioned this so far so allow me to ask an obvious question: Why was any one suprised at this action? It's clearly stated in the FAQ here on the site:
"The effects of a low security status will also vary widely, ranging from access restrictions to certain zones, direct attack by an empire authority, confiscation of restricted equipment or having bounties issued on ones head, to name but a few."
"...direct attack by an empire authority..." Hmmm. I'd say MOo was was lucky CONCORD left them with the equipment they did.
Edited by: Petra Gibson on 08/06/2003 19:57:39
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Wyke DeRainger
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Posted - 2003.06.08 21:44:00 -
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Lets get thing in perspective here. Groups like Moo are ripping off other players. Full stop.
To get a decent character upto a level where they can fly a decent Cruiser. Takes a good 150-200 hours minimum.
When groups like Moo come along and wipe out all that work in one stroke that's your time, and your monthly fee they are wasting.
Empire space should be closed, full stop, to all Pirates, with dire consequences to anybody who tries such acts in secure space.
Yes PvP is an importent part of the game, but should be limited to none secure space. There, there should be no arguments, if you wander into non-secure space and loose your ship, and get pod killed, then more fool you for doing so unprepared.
Not all players want to get involved in PvP, many are happy to play as traders, miners and what ever, and should be able to do so without the threat of inadequate idiots who's only intention is to spoil other peoples enjoyment, because the only way that they can feel importent is from the safty of their computers
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ToDie For
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:27:00 -
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They are bad poeple!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:29:00 -
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Man 'em EXTREMELY old posts sure are popular...
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:33:00 -
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 Quote:
Hi,
"They tried the other day with cruisers and failed so now we find ourselves in a situation where the GMs effectively cheating to save face. Suck it up CCP"
That's why they are called Game Masters.
They can make things happen. They got the tools.
Go and play some pen and paper role playing games first. Maybe you will then learn some things...
I usualy used a cow from outer space, dropping it with an amazing speed on the cowards, who shot too many innocents for fun.
Call me a GM cheating to save his face.
Meanwhile I rip your character sheet. A cow killed you.
Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
Bye...
Wohohohoh. My predecessor was a carebear and fanboi too. For a while...
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Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone.
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:57:00 -
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Who said ebay was against the rules?...
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