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Death Theory	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:24:00 - [1] what do you guys think... H:5 ion blaster 2's M:fleeting web, disrupter 2, yt8 overcharge mwd L:Mar2, 2 beta reacter control diagnostic systems, 3 mag stabs Rigs: hybrid collison accelerator, burst aerator. quickfit sais with my skills it will pump out 662 damage per second. would it be cannon fodder just going all out gank?
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:41:00 - [2] 1. QuickFit + DPS Calculations = Horribly wrong and 2. 3 Mag Stabs + 2 Damage rigs = VERY bad idea, there is huge stacking penalty for the rof and damage rigs after 3 rigs, you will never get any extra DPS worth meantioning from the when you have 3 Mag Stabs fitted. --- How do I shot web?
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:54:00 - [3] I think we just struck the "whoa-hold-on-there-matey, wheres your support skills"-line. 2 RCU's? If you need to fit one, it should raise a huge warning flag, 2 is normally a big nono. 2 RCU's without fitting neutrons? Thats just wrong. Yes, I realize the rigs add to it, but with average skills, you really shouldn't need any. (I just checked, and I would have ~27 grid left, if I remove the RCU's from your setup) Further on, you'd want _something_ in that last highslot. To be honest, I'm afraid youll run into cap issues quite quickly. snip Your signature was not EVE related. Contact [email protected] if you want to know more. (Include a link to your signature) -Wachtmeister Post count: 370475
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:57:00 - [4] Edited by: Lore Isander on 14/07/2007 04:57:16 Originally by: NoNah I think we just struck the "whoa-hold-on-there-matey, wheres your support skills"-line. 2 RCU's? If you need to fit one, it should raise a huge warning flag, 2 is normally a big nono. 2 RCU's without fitting neutrons? Thats just wrong. Yes, I realize the rigs add to it, but with average skills, you really shouldn't need any. (I just checked, and I would have ~27 grid left, if I remove the RCU's from your setup) Further on, you'd want _something_ in that last highslot. To be honest, I'm afraid youll run into cap issues quite quickly. Those are Power Diagnostic Systems But still rather weird fit. Something I tried on Sisi: 5x Heavy Ion II 1x Small Nos 1x 10mn MWD II 1x Disruptor II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Small Rep II 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 5x Vespa EC-600 --- How do I shot web?
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 05:04:00 - [5] Doh, yes they are. At this point I'd like to point out its 07:00 here, and that friggin thing is called "sumthin sumthin reactor control sumthin sumthin" and should thus be a RCU. =P Anyway, my point is the same, no fitting mods should be needed, I can see it might be the cap youre after, but... a Nos would do you more good then, or a cap relay... snip Your signature was not EVE related. Contact [email protected] if you want to know more. (Include a link to your signature) -Wachtmeister Post count: 218004
Death Theory	Posted - 2007.07.14 05:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Lore Isander 1. QuickFit + DPS Calculations = Horribly wrong and 2. 3 Mag Stabs + 2 Damage rigs = VERY bad idea, there is huge stacking penalty for the rof and damage rigs after 3 rigs, you will never get any extra DPS worth meantioning from the when you have 3 Mag Stabs fitted. So what your trying to say is the mag stabs are going to effect the damage rig bonuses? in that case i could just slap on an eanm2 damage control 2 and explosive hardener 2 to plug the hole in the armor
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 05:09:00 - [7] I'm afraid youre working in the wrong end. MFS are stacking penalized with the rigs - yes. But the modules give both RoF and damage, the rigs give only one of them. Try some other rigs, polycarbons or whatever really, and keep the MFS - for gank. Fact is that setup you got from Lore over there just might work, even though hes the one suggesting it. snip Your signature was not EVE related. Contact [email protected] if you want to know more. (Include a link to your signature) -Wachtmeister Post count: 270764
Death Theory	Posted - 2007.07.14 05:26:00 - [8] so ive been messing with quickfit and hows this sound... High: Heavy neutron blaster 2's, medium nos 2 Med: fleeting web, yt8 mwd, disruptor 2 low:medium armor rep 2, eanm 2, 3 mag stabs, 1x reacter control unit 2. 2x ancillary current router rigs.
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.14 05:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Death Theory so ive been messing with quickfit and hows this sound... High: Heavy neutron blaster 2's, medium nos 2 Med: fleeting web, yt8 mwd, disruptor 2 low:medium armor rep 2, eanm 2, 3 mag stabs, 1x reacter control unit 2. 2x ancillary current router rigs. 5x Heavy Neutron II 1x Y-T8 MWD 1x Disruptor II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Med Rep II 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 1x PG Rig 1x Rep Amount Rig --- How do I shot web?
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.14 06:49:00 - [10] you probably won't need 2 pdu's if you drop the weapon rigs, they make your guns gobble up a lot of pg
Headwires	Posted - 2007.07.14 08:21:00 - [11] bump
Gladiator Jonny Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.07.14 09:04:00 - [12] Originally by: Lore Isander 5x Heavy Neutron II 1x Y-T8 MWD 1x Disruptor II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Med Rep II 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 1x PG Rig 1x Rep Amount Rig This looks about the best bet to me, the only way i might modify it is to fit a Ts energized reactive membrane to plug the gap. probabily use the setup above tho, tis nasty dps
Gladiator Jonny Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.07.14 09:07:00 - [13] Edited by: Gladiator Jonny on 14/07/2007 09:07:19 edit: double post... nasty things
Talen Kross T Miners	Posted - 2007.07.14 09:12:00 - [14] I always saw the demios as Eves equivalent of the sawn-off shotgun. It runs out of cap really quickly, but does loads of dps. I think the Ishtar is better for solo and would tend to use the demios in gangs, replacing the scrambler with an cap injector. Originally by: "Desi" Originally by: "spiralJunkie" if Vegeta is going, only I can beat him You will need to spend atleast 6 episodes powering up before you do that.
Leni	Posted - 2007.07.14 10:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Lore Isander 5x Heavy Neutron II 1x Y-T8 MWD 1x Disruptor II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Med Rep II 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 1x PG Rig 1x Rep Amount Rig I suggest not to fit armor rigs on a Deimos. I'd even go as far as sysing it's better to sacrifice armor for speed. The reason is as simple as you cannot do damage to anything as long as you are out of range. Doing damage is the sole purpose so...
XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.07.14 11:13:00 - [16] anyone tryed to fitt PG rigs on a deimos ? how did it work out for ya? --------------------------------------
Pathogenia	Posted - 2007.07.14 11:46:00 - [17] Originally by: XrayZ anyone tryed to fitt PG rigs on a deimos ? how did it work out for ya? Hell yes, it does. My actual fitting is, Hi 5x Med Neutron Blaster II Diminishing Power Drain Med 10mn MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Weber Low MAR II 2x Mag Field Stab II EANM II Energized Reactive II PDU Drones 5x Hammerhead II Rigs 2x (10% Powergridbonus, don't recall the name tho) This beast does dmg quite well, but if you're outa cap, you're dead.. and it's worth about 250mio ISK, which is too much if you ask me. I unleash it hardly, cause I can not afford loosing it. (just bought it, too see what's actualy possible)
WildSide Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.14 11:55:00 - [18] I got a decent setup I think..havent worked any bether out jet. 5 ion t2+med dim/e50 nos t2 warp disuptor, named mwd, fleeting web. medium armor rep t2, best named damage control, active explosive hardnener t2, 800mm rlt plate, 2 dmg mods t2. dronebay: either 5 valkyre t2 or 5 medium ecm drones..matter of taste. rigs: 2 x pg rigs t1 I do have about 5-6k armor (with some slaves though) its got ok speed...and enough firepower to eat trhough a npcing bs solo quite easy without repping much. Almost every bs nowadays got atleast 1 heavy nos fitted, the med nos makes up for some of it...but u can never expect to "gain" cap from fighting bs unless ure jamming him with ure drones...ure relieing on killing him before he kills u, I there for depening on how much cap I got rarly runs more than 3-4 rep cycles..before turning off my rep to save the rest of the cap for the guns/scram. But 5-6k armor hp with quite nice res takes abit to scew trough...specialy since the deimos got a small sig. Vids produced by me

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