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DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:24:00 - [1] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:29:34 Damn, never thought I would be posting this **e... but e happens... I was in a corp that joined Xelas (who?) Turns out there were alot of fine people within that alliance. Hakata, Nemesis, FMA, SOCM and Setenta, Was in many e gangs and got spanked... then Haste disintegrated and we needed a Fleet Admiral... fuk it.. in I go... As Fleet Admiral we recon'd Branch giving BoB every D2 POS and fittings in every Branch system in February, ambushed Morsus Mihi (and they left Fountain immediately after (thx Seleene)), deployed an outpost (as STC despite being under siege) and were starting to get pvp right with the aid of Nawann and Ladett (Nemesis Industries) but Norman Protector creates Doomsday Corp (Chinese isk farmers galore- Norman himself chinese-american and thus can communicate seamlessly)... Thief IT (CEO STC) and I fervently oppose this, as does Bombshell Cartel. However, we are over-ruled by Blue Flame (IITI, CiC Xelas). Proxay- CEO Fallen Angels (Norman's corp) opposes us. Proxay produces cap ship orders all of a sudden from nowhere that will give him 36 caps in 3 months from IITI construction (and I sort out Imoshen so he can build his Wyvern).... Thief It says... fuk them.... and recruits as many farmers as he can get- with the aim of getting enough isk quickly enough to get 2 more outposts to get constellation sovereignty... I didn't like this, but Thief is an Aussie and takes no and full credit to him... he doesnt like being fukked over also. Lots happening in a short period... IITI alliance leadership is e to say the least. Blue Flame is a gentleman but is no leader of an alliance that was in our situation. So members of Bomshell Cartell killed an STC pilot that they were told by an STC director was being kicked asap as a farmer that was helping non-alliance farmers (yes, hypocracy galore.... but the politics was a nightmare). I was cool with this as I tried to kick that member myself but roles prevented it. Thief It logs on an hour after I had logged and he went ape.... he was fukked off as he would not tolerate people killing his peeps.... gangs were formed but nothing came of it. I logged in again to see KOS orders from Huckleberries (XO, US TZ) for 3 Bombshell Cartell people.. wtf??? I immediately rescind that order and investigate. I make peace between Thief It and Michel Licari (CEO BC) over the issue. I log off. Wake up next day and and Huckleberries orders KOS again hours later. I rescind again.... and Huckleberries "fires" me..... only Blue Flame could fire me and thus Xelas suffers.... many Xelas personnel mail and convo me saying they fight with me not for IITI leadership as they are usually nowhere to be seen and I FC the gangs (although R0ot(IITI) and Rovla Ska(IITI) always join or lead gangs).... but hey Imoshen got his Wyvern... So yes Xelas in turmoil.... Bombshell Cartell get kicked from Xelas.... lol... Thief It and I were always told that IITI had good connections with BoB... hell Chowdown jumped in the outpost and the cap assembly arrays for us, so we assumed all was well. Things started getting weird... I always had good relations with BoB and they would always taken my convos.. from CEO's down... Turns out Xelas HC had NO relations with BoB at all... in the 2 weeks before I resigned I got Xelas access to BoB forums and IRC channels... (fuk me I had only been in this alliance 6 months? Xelas is years old but I AM ARRANGING THIS WTF??? alarm bells ringing all over the place and we have just deployed an outpost... holy **) During this period I was talking with Dianabolic about the WMH plex... this was a superb opportunity for Xelas... but again it was squandered... In the end STC got fukked over because of the failures of IITI and I have NO compunctions saying this as Thief IT deserves this and more.... so does Bombshell Cartell... a top corp.. screwed by very very bad alliance leadership....
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:25:00 - [2] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:31:59 Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:26:27 And so to me now... my people get killed by a gang that included BoB members... to me this was an insult.. I spoke with a BoB CEO for over an hour tonight... the only thing that matters is the isk for standings... the loyalty shown by me means nothing... hell, I trolled COAD for the fun... and Dusk and Dawn took it hook, line and sinker... and as Xelas we took a pounding... many many many times.... yet my new corp members die with the help of BoB personnel... there is no remorse from bob- "you know our policy- pay or die".... A heavy heart indeed leads me to making this post... I have been loyal to BoB thru lots of thick and thin... yet when BoB can help me its pay up or fuk off.... this from a BoB CEO... heavy heart from me indeed after all that I and many others put into the war effort... Flame away as you please and no rolling eyes from me this time lol.. Deck Edit: Jamesons and for Eve history... also Xelas deployed cap array without BoB approval- it costs 5Bn per month to have a Cap Assembly array in BoB space..
Marovinchian Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:31:00 - [3] so you or your corp members got shot in a fight with people they had no standings with.....this must be an exploit...PETITION!
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:32:00 - [4] "The Randoms" isn't blue. End of story.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:32:00 - [5] I disagree, Xelas failed because of people like you, but it was already too late by the time you were kicked out. Ok, I didn't really read that wall of text, but I imagine you're doing more lying in order to corp thief someone other poor corp.
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:35:00 - [6] I love you deck, I really do, you REALLY shine up the forums. And no, I don't mean with your wit and charm, but you really manage to entertain me all the same Damn dude, you are so frickin delusional.
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:36:00 - [7] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:39:38 Wow 2 BoB posts so quickly... there is nothing here that I can't stand over... yes a couple of our people died tonight... so be it.. but for the future its pay up or fuk up... yeah thats cool.... Keep flaming... Deck Edit: Mihailo... GFY
Baddias Mongo Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:36:00 - [8] tl:dr
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Marovinchian so you or your corp members got shot in a fight with people they had no standings with.....this must be an exploit...PETITION! Seems you took Deckard's invitation to flame quite literaly. I am just astonished Deckard seems surprised by any of this. EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
LOPEZ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:37:00 - [10] we were just killing isk farmers...... Revelation Eclipse

DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:42:00 - [11] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:42:00 Originally by: Astasia Orian "The Randoms" isn't blue. End of story. True... and accepted... as I said in my convo... but loylaty clearly means snip all... are you happy with that situation Astasia? Deck Again, please avoid profanity, even if not spelt correctly. - Tallan
Raven03 Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:43:00 - [12] I assited in said event where The Randoms were shot and killed. So therefor I assited bob Can i have standings please?
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:44:00 - [13] Originally by: DeckardIRL Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:42:00 Originally by: Astasia Orian "The Randoms" isn't blue. End of story. True... and accepted... as I said in my convo... but loylaty clearly means snip all... are you happy with that situation Astasia? Deck Again, please avoid profanity, even if not spelt correctly. - Tallan Listen, we all know you like to imagine you're a well respected and fantastic person, but...how can you not see you're one of several COAD laughing stocks? Who has respect for you? where are they? who could possibly respect someone like yourself, and for what? Whining?
Dave White coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:44:00 - [14] Holy mother of snip ! Originally by: CCP kieron Dave, that sig is freaky and funny at the same time.
Cpt Pugwash Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:46:00 - [15] It never ceases to amaze me how people come to COAD acting all surprised when Bob ****(er I mean poo) on them. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:48:00 - [16] Hehe, "Pay up or Die". Silly Pets. When will you guys learn, you are just pets, not allies. Anyone seen "Braveheart"? Remember the part where the Scotts face off against the English and the English send it the Irish footmen because "Arrows are expensive". You are those footmen.
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Kozak Anyone seen "Braveheart"? Remember the part where the Scotts face off against the English and the English send it the Irish footmen because "Arrows are expensive". You are those footmen. As an Irishman QFT... Deck
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:53:00 - [18] Oh god I'm getting into this aren't I! Right, so you're flying along in some random neutral corp nobody has ever heard of. You run into a gang with some BoB guys in it, they nuke you. Seems normal enough. But you're suggesting that they (whoever they were!) should have said hey guys, it's the former xelas fleet admiral (xelas being held in such high regard), HOLD YOUR FIRE AAAAAAAA. Only CAOD ***s prolly know who you are. This is beside the point, however, as we shoot people who aren't blue, whatever they may have done or not done in the past, because that's how the game works at a most fundamental level. I doubt anyone wishes you particular ill will. It all seems very obvious. I'm thinking you know it too, but can't help posting or something. Originally by:** DeckardIRL Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 00:42:00 Originally by: Astasia Orian "The Randoms" isn't blue. End of story. True... and accepted... as I said in my convo... but loylaty clearly means snip all... are you happy with that situation Astasia? Deck Again, please avoid profanity, even if not spelt correctly. - Tallan
Onwyn Orbatsuu International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Marovinchian so you or your corp members got shot in a fight with people they had no standings with.....this must be an exploit...PETITION! Way to read no read, although +1 for posting with your main (this must be a bug). I dislike Xelas, but even if the OP is telling the half truth that is some douchebaggery happening right there. Sucks that you guys were front line for BoB, doing all that ****z only to get booted out of nowhere for no real reason other then "pew pew".
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:57:00 - [20] Im sorry but who are you ? Xelas got evicted for a reason and that doesnt mean that those that werent isk farmers can stay on and keep milking the roids for what they are worth. You pay to live in our space or you get shot like neutrals. You beeing the "fleet admiral" of xelas doesnt hold much tbh.

DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 00:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Astasia Orian Stuff Listen again.. what I said was.. yes a couple of our guys died... please don't let it happen again.. the response was- sure... 1.2Bn per month no probs... so this is how loyalty is repaid... its not alot is isk... but its the principle... This war cannot be about isk alone... Astasia??? Or forget about it.... Deck
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:00:00 - [22] This isn't real life people, it's a fricking space war game.
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:02:00 - [23] Guys it turns out BoB doesn't care much for people who pay them rent aaaaaaaa I am so surpriseeeed
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Kryztal Im sorry but who are you ? Xelas got evicted for a reason and that doesnt mean that those that werent isk farmers can stay on and keep milking the roids for what they are worth. You pay to live in our space or you get shot like neutrals. You beeing the "fleet admiral" of xelas doesnt hold much tbh. Can't be snip to log on to see how old you are... but your rock is calling you so get back under it.... Deck Again with the profanity, its bad to bypass the filter, mkay - Tallan
Jonny 101 Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:02:00 - [25] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Guys it turns out BoB doesn't care much for people who pay them rent aaaaaaaa I am so surpriseeeed Hey genius, the problem is that they DON'T pay them rent, imagine that, an alliance filled with pvp'ers, ex m0o, ex space invaders, ex members from every scum filled pirate corp that saw the dawn of eve SHOOT NEUTRAL PLAYERS OH DEAR GOD!
Worry Grief Junkies	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:05:00 - [26] Actually... Just moments before this fight we had a chance to gank a freightor and a carrier in the next system. The BoB members of the gang insisted we go to Uphallent to wax the former Xelas Admiral's corpmates. True Story.
Marovinchian Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:07:00 - [27] k, you are no longer affiliated with bob in any way, don't rent any space bob claims, and are offering no kind of help in terms of fighting anymore. What exactly is the story with thinking you deserve to be set to friendly terms? If i ever left bob, cut ties with my corp, moved my assetts out and offered them no kind of help anymore i sure as hell wouldn't expect to be treated any different than anyone else in eve no matter how much ive done for my corp or alliance while i was there. Too me it seems you are simply a scorned child who didn't get his way when some bad people attacked his ships and when running to mommy, mommy said "toughen up son"....get over it.
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:12:00 - [28] Edited by: DeckardIRL on 16/07/2007 01:13:19 Originally by: Marovinchian k, you are no longer affiliated with bob in any way, don't rent any space bob claims, and are offering no kind of help in terms of fighting anymore. What exactly is the story with thinking you deserve to be set to friendly terms? If i ever left bob, cut ties with my corp, moved my assetts out and offered them no kind of help anymore i sure as hell wouldn't expect to be treated any different than anyone else in eve no matter how much ive done for my corp or alliance while i was there. Too me it seems you are simply a scorned child who didn't get his way when some bad people attacked his ships and when running to mommy, mommy said "toughen up son"....get over it. Damn, you clearly don't get it at all do you dude... the "cryalition despite being un co-ordinated at all" is re-taking the North as MC is no longer there and on a break... BoB has stalled in the South and is not progressing but both sides are ping ponging.... so what will prevail? Those they "pay" for security or those that fight of their free will... you are an idiot.... so unless BoB promises MC another Titan... what do you think might happen? BoB is good.. there is no doubt.... but without MC there is stalemate.... Deck
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:12:00 - [29] Originally by: Marovinchian k, you are no longer affiliated with bob in any way, don't rent any space bob claims, and are offering no kind of help in terms of fighting anymore. What exactly is the story with thinking you deserve to be set to friendly terms? If i ever left bob, cut ties with my corp, moved my assetts out and offered them no kind of help anymore i sure as hell wouldn't expect to be treated any different than anyone else in eve no matter how much ive done for my corp or alliance while i was there. Too me it seems you are simply a scorned child who didn't get his way when some bad people attacked his ships and when running to mommy, mommy said "toughen up son"....get over it. Are you inderectly comparing BoB to some sort of motherfigure? That is a new approach. Though I must admit it seems slightly alienating to me. EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
Marovinchian Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.16 01:21:00 - [30] to deckard, you aren't fighting of your own free will, you are sitting in uphallant getting shot at.....and lets be honest now, there was what....1, MAYBE 2 bob guys in the gang that attacked yours. As far as the idiot comments...ill write that off to the fact that you simply aren't getting the responses you want out of this thread and have resorted to that sort of garbage. to the other guy, i was referring the "mother figure" to the bob ceo/director that was convoed immediately after the fight...not bob itself



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