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Sizeof Void
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:30:00 -
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Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another?
Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead? Forcing a logi off the field isn't nearly as effective as blowing them up, esp. over the long term. The Incursion fleet would need to replace them before continuing farming - which is a bit more expensive and problematic than replacing BS shooters. |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:04:00 -
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Poloturion wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another? Well that would require waiting for the bears to end the incursion. If only we had a way to know when the bears would be hauling their shinies ...  Good point. FYI, I had just read Jester's blog - "The caravan of the heavens" - which is what put the idea in my head.
Poloturion wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead? It takes less resources to jam a logi than gank it, and you can do it with concord on grid. You also take less sec status hit since all you are doing is aggressing them. Another good point. I sometimes forget about the sec status hit - it doesn't mean much when you are already below -5.
BTW - regarding Concord, you can always pull them off grid prior to your attack. The Goon pilots did this very effectively during their Gallente ice interdiction, simply by undocking in a noob frig, doing something bad to attract Concord away from the ice field, and then launching their suicide attack on the mining ship. |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:14:00 -
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Andy Sharvas wrote:Also, when we started, nobody really realized why there were suddenly 12 blackbirds in their OTA. A group of alpha tempests warping in would have been a fairly obvious suicide gank fleet. lol... true enough!
Perhaps you should try the same thing with a bunch of Badger II's? :) |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:40:00 -
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Another idea to throw on the fire here....
Rather than use ECM - which is chance-based - how about using range-scripted damps to break the logi ships' locks? Damps always hit, unlike ECM.
You could use a single mid-slot heavy ship to disable several logi ships.
Disclaimer: I haven't run an Incursion site since they were first introduced, so my assumption that the logi ships are standing off and repping from a distance, rather than up close among the shooters, could be entirely wrong. |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.11 02:29:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:^ incursion fleets are a ball of ships orbiting an anchor at like 10 km, you need jamming. Ah, well... it was just a thought. Too bad you can't use bombs in high sec Incursion sites.... ;) |
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