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Identity Hidden
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.17 05:16:00 -
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Instead of CCP working with cedega, why don't they just pay a guy to make sure EVE works in wine? That way customers don't have to buy Cedega. Or is there some, er, agreement between Transgaming and CCP that would prevent this?
Anyways, I have two issues at the moment with the latest TQ version of EVE and the latest version of wine (0.9.40 installed by debian)
Issue #1: wine must full-screen, otherwise the interface is glitchy and my window borders are messed up - I tried applying this patch but that made no difference. Not a big deal, except for when I wish to run two EVEs, I cannot move one if it has no windowborders, If I force a move with the windowmanager the cursor in-game doesn't work.
Issue #2: chat windows don't work, I can see who is there, I can see them, but when I type something and press enter nothing happens - when I receive a message nothing happens. I tried deleting cache, voiceenable=0, although I could not find arialuni.ttf anywhere to install - anyone know where I can grab this? (find /mnt/winxp -iname arialuni.ttf) did not find a single thing 
Anyone know of any solutions for either problem?
Anybody else having problems getting EVE going under wine?
To the mods: Before you lock this, c'mon, that other thread is years old, and people have to sift 50 pages for what they need, not cool. The "EVE in Linux" is a Cedega thread, cedega and wine are nowadays entirely different. Cedega is also evil. 
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Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.17 05:20:00 -
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*reserved*
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:10:00 -
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There is a 0.9.41 version available now, I'm not sure whether it fixes or breaks anything though as I haven't tried it yet...
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Tessa Darcq
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 13:37:00 -
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I'm running it under the latest (paid) version of Cedega. Works like a charm.
It should work fine when compiled from the SVN as well, which doesn't require the $5/mo subscription.
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
28th Day Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.18 06:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Identity Hidden
Instead of CCP working with cedega, why don't they just pay a guy to make sure EVE works in wine? That way customers don't have to buy Cedega.
Amen to that, but this should be about trust and keeping promises, not money.
Transgaming broke their word about donate code back to the WINE project.
This is why they changed their code license from MIT/BSD to LGPL to stop this from happening in the future.
Coupled with the fact that EVE runs very happily on WINE 0.9.41 in Gentoo/Linux it makes it a very attractive proposition.
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Glengrant
Minmatar
TOHA Heavy Industries
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 09:11:00 -
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My guess is that CCP simply licences the Cedega lib and link it to the regular client. They'll probably pay a small licence fee for that to Cedega (CCP makes money from the extra subscriptions after all), while the players just install a client like they would on windows and pay the regular subscription.
Cedega gets licensing fees from CCP, CCP gets extra subscriptions and less messages asking for Linux client and Linux players get easy installation and more direct support. Everybody wins.
To those asking for *native* Linux client: This would be native. Wine/Cedega/crossover are just a compatibility layer mapping win32 api calls to linux libs.
Wine/crossover/cedega are not like ReactOS where the whole windows OS is rebuilt from scratch. Wine (et al) just make windows apps think they are on windows because all their calls can be satisfied - but the implementation is done via the regular linux kernel+X11+alsa/oss+libs.
That why the wine project says it's not an emulator.
If CCP had started out to do a portable client - they would have used a software layer anyway to abstract away the os differences. That this portability layer looks like the win32 api is irrelevant to the end-user.
Just guesssing though - I have no facts besides the few known remarks made in interviews in recent weeks.
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Glengrant
Minmatar
TOHA Heavy Industries
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Identity Hidden
Edited by: Identity Hidden on 17/07/2007 05:45:32
Instead of CCP working with cedega, why don't they just pay a guy to make sure EVE works in wine?
Eve already works in Wine. I have been using Eve on Wine for half a year now. Even the few graphics glitches (map, planetary rims and other small stuff) have been mostly fixed now. Eve has Gold Status on WineHQ and I can do everything on it already.
I haven't tried Cedega and I guess their DX3D support is better - my FPS are ok but could be better and I have heard from players who have full performance on Linux with Cedega (and nvidia - all other cards seem to be probelamtic).
Originally by: Identity Hidden
That way customers don't have to buy Cedega.
My guess is you don't have anyway. Otherwise what's the poijnt of CCP releasing Linux clients at all - would be exactly the same as it is now.
I assume they'll link the Cedega lib to their client - do some extra patches and that's it. You download client, you install client (no extra wine/cedega install), you pay regular Eve subscription. Just guessing but makes the most sense.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.07.18 09:24:00 -
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Client compiled against winelibs/cedegalibs will have just native external interfaces; internally it'll have its former structure, with its pros and cons in interaction with wine/cedega (the main con imo is that directx over wine and native linux libs won't have optimization potential like client built over native libs like opengl).
Hell, i love ue3 in all aspects.
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