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rupax
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Posted - 2007.07.18 08:37:00 -
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ok i know its prob been done a gazillion times but i need a pvp and a fleet set up for a tempest. please post what you suggest.
thanks
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 08:46:25
solo / small gang:
6x 800mm AC, 2x nos
web, scram, mwd, injector, sensorbooster
2x LAR, 2x EANM, 2x gyrostab
if you want more tank, switch one gyrostab for a damage control
fleet:
6x 1400mm
2x sensorbooster, 2x tracking computer, 1x mwd
1x reactor control unit, 3x gyrostab, 1x damage control 1x 1600 plate
replace with t2 where possible. first setup is awesome gank/reasonable tank with good skills. second one is cookiecutter fleet.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.07.18 08:54:00 -
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ahhh the Tempest 
I figured on a setup perfect for gangs:
6x 650t2's
2x Large Arup Bulwark Remote.
2x Heavy Cap injector t2
1x web
1x wd
1x mwd {named}
2x LARt2
2x t2 Active
1x dark blood\sansha\serp etc
1x EANM\DCU t2
Fills a support role brilliantly and without sacrificing the dps, but impossible to run without a 2nd cap injector.
Using the mwd to get in remote rep range of your buddies quickly.
This is imho the best setup in support and it doesnt use the lame nos 
Requires AWU level 5
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 08:55:00 -
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Use logistics in gang to rep. Tempest is a dps monster, and needs gyrostabs.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 18/07/2007 10:02:25
 Originally by: Sokratesz
Use logistics in gang to rep. Tempest is a dps monster, and needs gyrostabs.
true but your 800 fitting dosent fit anyways..
if you are talking about Heavy nos... and since small/med nos is pretty waste you prob do
EDIT: after you have fitted 6 t2 800s and 2 heavy nos and mwd and injector there is aprox 192 powergrid left to fit 2 armor reps
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 10:04:00 -
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6 x dual 425 II
2 x heavy dim nos
1 x quad or gist mwd( prefer this)
1 x t2 warp disrupter
1 x fleeting web
1 x cap injector
1 x ecm burst
2 x large rep
2 x EANM <-- dont know if this fits with the EANM nerf.. but did before
2 x gyro
and then armor repair rigs or speed rigs if you intend to roam alot
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Robert Rumpletweezer
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Posted - 2007.07.18 10:15:00 -
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Me and some corpies decided to have group tanks instead of solo ones for 0.0 gate camping in our BS, so we each fitted 2x remote reps (2x domis, 1x tempest).
I used on my pest:
6x 800mms
2x Solace Reps
100mn MWD II
X5 Web
Heavy Injector II
Warp Disruptor II
Sensor Booster II
3x Active Hardeners
1x DCU II
2x Gyros
1x Falloff Rig
1x ROF Rig
Nice DPS and insane group tank, just needed good communication.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 10:33:16
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 18/07/2007 10:02:25
Originally by: Sokratesz
Use logistics in gang to rep. Tempest is a dps monster, and needs gyrostabs.
true but your 800 fitting dosent fit anyways..
if you are talking about Heavy nos... and since small/med nos is pretty waste you prob do
EDIT: after you have fitted 6 t2 800s and 2 heavy nos and mwd and injector there is aprox 192 powergrid left to fit 2 armor reps
I am not talking heavy nos. duh. its a closerange ship, medium is plenty. nos are overrated anyway.
sup /b/ |
Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 10:33:16
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 18/07/2007 10:02:25
Originally by: Sokratesz
Use logistics in gang to rep. Tempest is a dps monster, and needs gyrostabs.
true but your 800 fitting dosent fit anyways..
if you are talking about Heavy nos... and since small/med nos is pretty waste you prob do
EDIT: after you have fitted 6 t2 800s and 2 heavy nos and mwd and injector there is aprox 192 powergrid left to fit 2 armor reps
I am not talking heavy nos. duh. its a closerange ship, medium is plenty. nos are overrated anyway.
nah they really arent.. heavy nos is a pretty awsome piece of work.. and no medium nos isent really plenty imo 
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 12:36:07
Its either that or leaving them empty, at least for me. Heavy nos only draws slightly more cap/sec than medium and the fittings reqs are insane. Plus theyre overrated since everyone and his mom has an injector anyway. Imflying this with a character who has every single gunnery spec skill to lvl 5 and im not spoiling that on 650s or lower :)
sup /b/ |
Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 12:36:07
Its either that or leaving them empty, at least for me. Heavy nos only draws slightly more cap/sec than medium and the fittings reqs are insane. Plus theyre overrated since everyone and his mom has an injector anyway. Imflying this with a character who has every single gunnery spec skill to lvl 5 and im not spoiling that on 650s or lower :)
Use dual 650 and put falloff rigs. Also, it sucks when a decent inty/vaga/sabre points you from 15km and there isn't a damn thing you can do without a heavy nos/neut.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Use dual 650 and put falloff rigs. Also, it sucks when a decent inty/vaga/sabre points you from 15km and there isn't a damn thing you can do without a heavy nos/neut.
There is, dont fly solo.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:54:00 -
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6*650mm t2, heavy neut/nos, cloak
mwd, disruptor, web, injector, sensor booster
lar, 1600mm plate, 2*gyros, explosive hardener, damage control
2 falloff rigs, 1 trimark
Mostly a gank ship for 1v1->1v3 at most
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Use dual 650 and put falloff rigs. Also, it sucks when a decent inty/vaga/sabre points you from 15km and there isn't a damn thing you can do without a heavy nos/neut.
There is, dont fly solo.
Sure
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
6*650mm t2, heavy neut/nos, cloak
mwd, disruptor, web, injector, sensor booster
lar, 1600mm plate, 2*gyros, explosive hardener, damage control
2 falloff rigs, 1 trimark
Mostly a gank ship for 1v1->1v3 at most
cloak? 
DE
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 18/07/2007 13:33:29
Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 18/07/2007 13:23:41
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
6*650mm t2, heavy neut/nos, cloak
mwd, disruptor, web, injector, sensor booster
lar, 1600mm plate, 2*gyros, explosive hardener, damage control
2 falloff rigs, 1 trimark
Mostly a gank ship for 1v1->1v3 at most
cloak?
DE
Yep, it does wonders :) You can escape non dictor/bubble camps if you know; even those sometimes :)
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 18/07/2007 13:23:41
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
6*650mm t2, heavy neut/nos, cloak
mwd, disruptor, web, injector, sensor booster
lar, 1600mm plate, 2*gyros, explosive hardener, damage control
2 falloff rigs, 1 trimark
Mostly a gank ship for 1v1->1v3 at most
cloak?
DE
Yep, it does wonders :)
At the cost of longer locktimes? Seems like a bad idea since Minmatar electronics is shaky to begin with.
I happen to agree with the 800s with medium nos setup. If you can't tank a vega or anything non BB smaller then a BC (i.e. the overrated fear of vegas) with two LARs and a Cap Injector, then. .. well. . .you will have no problems. It is not going to break your tank, and you have a chance to take it down in three volleys if it gets its transversal and MWD wrong. Quite frankly, just use webber drones, keep them close, and when it comes into any kind of range where you can catch it, boom. Either way, you are shooting with a chance to kill, it has no chance to kill you. Now if its playing heavy tackler - then its a situation where you need to bring friends anyway. In either case, Vegas don't do massive dps, annoying as they are, they will not break a tempest's tank.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
I happen to agree with the 800s with medium nos setup. If you can't tank a vega or anything non BB smaller then a BC (i.e. the overrated fear of vegas) with two LARs and a Cap Injector, then. .. well. . .you will have no problems. It is not going to break your tank, and you have a chance to take it down in three volleys if it gets its transversal and MWD wrong. Quite frankly, just use webber drones, keep them close, and when it comes into any kind of range where you can catch it, boom. Either way, you are shooting with a chance to kill, it has no chance to kill you. Now if its playing heavy tackler - then its a situation where you need to bring friends anyway. In either case, Vegas don't do massive dps, annoying as they are, they will not break a tempest's tank.
What he said. Why nerf your entire setup with a thing thats barely useful and thereby highly overrated.
sup /b/ |
Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.18 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 18/07/2007 13:23:41
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
6*650mm t2, heavy neut/nos, cloak
mwd, disruptor, web, injector, sensor booster
lar, 1600mm plate, 2*gyros, explosive hardener, damage control
2 falloff rigs, 1 trimark
Mostly a gank ship for 1v1->1v3 at most
cloak?
DE
Yep, it does wonders :)
At the cost of longer locktimes? Seems like a bad idea since Minmatar electronics is shaky to begin with.
I guess you've never heard of the BWF cloaked snipers :)
Anyway, I don't say you should do as I do, I just proposed my setup as it suits me best :)
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Demoria
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.18 16:46:00 -
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I think that Chode is right, I mean, with medium nosses, a normal crow can keep you tackled FOREVER, since you cannot catch him/nos him. Stick assault missile launchers or something like that on it instead.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Demoria
I think that Chode is right, I mean, with medium nosses, a normal crow can keep you tackled FOREVER, since you cannot catch him/nos him. Stick assault missile launchers or something like that on it instead.
He also can't kill you and cannot web you either so make it back to the gate or wait untill he makes a mistake, drops his transversal and instapop him. Lght drones work, too.
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Demoria
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.18 16:56:00 -
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Ever heard of gangs?
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Demoria
Ever heard of gangs?
That argument works both ways.
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Demoria
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:01:00 -
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I suppose, but fit assaults instead. Makes the tempest more anti-tackler safe.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 18/07/2007 17:03:54
Ahhhh okay sorry i thought you were arguing in favour of te heavy nos cause. assault launchers or med nos, ftw. /me takes reading courses
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Demoria
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:05:00 -
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Well, heavy noses own meds, mainly due to the range.
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Amarr knight
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Demoria
I think that Chode is right, I mean, with medium nosses, a normal crow can keep you tackled FOREVER, since you cannot catch him/nos him. Stick assault missile launchers or something like that on it instead.
He also can't kill you and cannot web you either so make it back to the gate or wait untill he makes a mistake, drops his transversal and instapop him. Lght drones work, too.
If a crow engages a tempest i really doubt he is thinking of doing a 1 vs 1 with it. The main reason would be he is tackling and waiting for his gang to show up.
And take this from a crow pilot, light drones dont work on crow, not even warriors. But yah they cant web u so thats your only escape route bar the nos. I personally always keep 1 heavy nos for this kind of situations.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:25:00 -
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Logistics dont work so well tanking sentries. 
Thus my suggestion of small gang warfare and Remote reps.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Logistics dont work so well tanking sentries.
Thus my suggestion of small gang warfare and Remote reps.
Tried two of them? It's like a digital circlejerk, only better.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.07.18 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: kessah
Logistics dont work so well tanking sentries.
Thus my suggestion of small gang warfare and Remote reps.
Tried two of them? It's like a digital circlejerk, only better.
no cant say i have heh, but the dmg output cant be great?
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