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Enraku Reynolt
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 19/07/2007 20:31:33 Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 19/07/2007 20:26:49
Originally by: Ki An Uhm, although RL has little to do with EvE, I'm pretty sure RL pirates generally weren't the gentlemen you portray them as. A pirate attack would normally consist of:
- Forcing the target ship to stop (by shooting the sails down for example) - Board the ship - Kill anyone who opposes you - Grab as much cargo as you can carry - Scuttle the target ship - Yarr and drink rum
Since there is no boarding mechanic in EvE, the next best thing is to pop the target and collect the spoils. Ransoming, while nice, is strictly optional.
/Ki
they rarly scuttled the ship pirates werent gentlemen, but they werent psychoc murders (in most cases) they want some people to live and spread word, if you get a rep for sparing no noe, you have to fight your way onto EVERY DAMN SHIp plus you get royal navies after you and such more head ache, you want that happy balance between benevolent and criminal so people fear you enough to surrender their cargo without a fight, but not have every jerkoff with a commision hunting you 24/7 ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same |

Peter Powers
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 21:23:00 -
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Link
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pwnedgato
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.19 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Peter Powers Link
IT IS THAT WHICH MUST NOT BE LINKED!!! COUNTER-ATTACK ----- couldn't you technically say ibtl in any thread? |

William DeMeo
Gallente Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 23:32:00 -
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Why catagorize it? There's no good reason to do it, I just pvp in lowsec atm because I enjoy flying solo and fighting against the odds, if I wanted to be in fleetbattles I'd move to 0.0, just a different style of fighting, I don't "prey" on industrials or n00bz, just shoot whatever I can find. Yarr |

Aziz Hekato
Minmatar Hekato-Matari Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.20 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Enraku Reynolt Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 19/07/2007 20:31:33 Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 19/07/2007 20:26:49
Originally by: Ki An Uhm, although RL has little to do with EvE, I'm pretty sure RL pirates generally weren't the gentlemen you portray them as. A pirate attack would normally consist of:
- Forcing the target ship to stop (by shooting the sails down for example) - Board the ship - Kill anyone who opposes you - Grab as much cargo as you can carry - Scuttle the target ship - Yarr and drink rum
Since there is no boarding mechanic in EvE, the next best thing is to pop the target and collect the spoils. Ransoming, while nice, is strictly optional.
/Ki
they rarly scuttled the ship pirates werent gentlemen, but they werent psychoc murders (in most cases) they want some people to live and spread word, if you get a rep for sparing no noe, you have to fight your way onto EVERY DAMN SHIp plus you get royal navies after you and such more head ache, you want that happy balance between benevolent and criminal so people fear you enough to surrender their cargo without a fight, but not have every jerkoff with a commision hunting you 24/7
Acutally, most of the pirates looted the ship, took the shipcrew prisoner and sank the ship or hijacked it for their own purpose. The crew then mostly had 3 choices; 1) Die. 2) Forced to be part as the pirate crew 3) Sold as slaves.
Some pirate organizations set the crew free once hitting shore, but that wasnt very popular.
Sorry, but I cant comply to the 'PROOF OR STFU' alot of people has going, but I did about it in a historic book. -----------------------------------------------
Originally by: illusha Who is this Stephanie and how much $$ does it cost to stick my willy nilly inside her china place?
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Adelorae24
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.07.20 02:12:00 -
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If showing off skills is your thing then that's fine, but I really don't think the "Art" of your ransom or kill really makes you more of a pirate than someone who shouts "Yarr!!!" and blows some unsuspecting fool up.
Pirate = I don't want to do a boring job for my living. I want to take what isn't mine, because it's faster and more fun.
Pirate also = I don't care about the feelings of others, or the hard work they put into buying those arbys launchers
If you want to ransom, camp, gank, can flip, or suicide that's fine. It's all criminal behavior. Who cares if it's artistic. It's fun as hell!
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Brisco County
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Posted - 2007.07.20 11:35:00 -
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Gatecamping is no funner than mining. The kind of mongoloid pirates that sit at a gate for 6 hours a day just to shoot Academy noobs and their pods to populate their kill boards can hardly even call themselves PvP'ers.
My definition of carebear is someone that wants to play with no sort of risk of losing their ship. Which is exactly what gatecamping pirate gangs is. No-risk PvP.
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Cpt Branko
Guardian Heroes
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Posted - 2007.07.20 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Brisco County Gatecamping is no funner than mining. The kind of mongoloid pirates that sit at a gate for 6 hours a day just to shoot Academy noobs and their pods to populate their kill boards can hardly even call themselves PvP'ers.
Er, you know, it's not only *noobs* that go to low-sec. You get all sorts of ships, and the idea is, if it's a ship, kill it. Hell, you get people moving tons of salvage and/or BPOs in frigs on trading alts. It's worth popping them just in case.
Originally by: Brisco County My definition of carebear is someone that wants to play with no sort of risk of losing their ship.
Anyone who wants to live off PvP doesn't want to risk losing their ship unless they feel they've got a significant advantage, or it's such a cheap ship (like, frig) that it doesn't matter anyway. Do you expect pirates to do LvL 4s so they can pay for PvP losses? 
Originally by: Brisco County Which is exactly what gatecamping pirate gangs is. No-risk PvP.
Er, no. Gatecamping pirates can die, too, you know.
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dragonssbane
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.20 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Brisco County Gatecamping is no funner than mining. The kind of mongoloid pirates that sit at a gate for 6 hours a day just to shoot Academy noobs and their pods to populate their kill boards can hardly even call themselves PvP'ers.
My definition of carebear is someone that wants to play with no sort of risk of losing their ship. Which is exactly what gatecamping pirate gangs is. No-risk PvP.
Hmm...let me see...your sitting on a gate with your drake..you are getting pounded by gate guns..and you are taking on anything that pops through that gate..hmm no risk huh? O.K. dude whatever.
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Kali Ananda
Minmatar Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:21:00 -
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When I pirate, I usually never ransom. My goal is not money. Its the thrill of killing. Pure and simple. Sometimes I get good loot too, which is a very nice bonus. I get my money elsewhere...

Kali Ananda POD-U
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:27:00 -
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gate camping high sec gates as an outlaw is possibly the most risky thing you can do. if you don't have a scout on the other side if soem anti-pirate blob comes through with their ecm and **** you are screwed. while i agree generally gatecamping with a big blob is super low risk there are some aspects of gatecamping that are risky and there is never a way to avoid all risk when in lowsec. period.
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Afleet
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:35:00 -
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Piracy sucks... griefing is fun
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov Edited by: Stakhanov on 19/07/2007 11:46:33 I'm sick and tired of hearing that Kleptomaniacs are "gankers" or "not real pirates" or whatever. You obviously have no insight into how our corp works , so stop judging us.
Of course , the standard procedure is to shoot whatever comes through the gate , but we do ship ransom battleships occasionally. Besides , thanks to the sheer number of kills we get , we certainly had more pod ransoms by now than you stuck-up critics do 
Why do you think think we're camping Rancer ? Shortest Jita<>Rens route. Billions made from loot.
I feel your pain, ganking or whatever, I do it for the money, the kill is just a bonus.
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Alpha Sentori
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 19/07/2007 10:23:41 I was asked this very question by mr. spiral a few days ago.
Piracy is the act of ransoming a ship. I think thats pretty much it.
This means that klepto isnt pirats. Sitting 30 man on a gate in low-sec doesnt make you a pirate, it just makes you stupid tbh. But i guess they havent heard of effeciency.
This started off ok but it took you a nano second to jump in and for no apparent reason start gobbing off about Klepto. This isn't about us, it's an attempt at a debate so shut up you idiot. I like the definition of a Highwayman and it does seem to fit quite well into Eve. I don't mind being called a Highwayman instead of a pirate. We do ransom ships for the 100th time for you ******s that keep missing that point and all we do is play a different style. You're free to not agree with it but stop posting your crap about it, nullNo-one caresnull Alpha
This was a bad week to give up drinking!
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Malcore Trisus
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.20 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum i put them into 2 groups
low sec pirates <-- veto,snigg etc does alot of ransoms and RP yaar style
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0.0 pirates <-- roaming gankers they live off loot and general try to get good fights... endgame,outbreak(?),establishment, and many more
Snigg hasnt been in low-sec for a long, long time.
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Adelorae24
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.07.21 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alpha Sentori Edited by: Alpha Sentori on 20/07/2007 16:55:48
Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 19/07/2007 10:23:41 I was asked this very question by mr. spiral a few days ago.
Piracy is the act of ransoming a ship. I think thats pretty much it.
This means that klepto isnt pirats. Sitting 30 man on a gate in low-sec doesnt make you a pirate, it just makes you stupid tbh. But i guess they havent heard of effeciency.
This started off ok but it took you a nano second to jump in and for no apparent reason start gobbing off about Klepto. This isn't about us, it's an attempt at a debate so shut up you idiot. I like the definition of a Highwayman and it does seem to fit quite well into Eve. I don't mind being called a Highwayman instead of a pirate. We do ransom ships for the 100th time for you ******s that keep missing that point and all we do is play a different style. You're free to not agree with it but stop posting your crap about it. No-one cares!
Alpha
This was a bad week to give up drinking!
Right on. Pirate in this game seems more and more to mean someone with a "code" or "honor". I'd much rather be a highwayman, or a "Racketeer" if you will.
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Igrayne
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.21 05:22:00 -
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I pirate to profit, now that might be killing shuttles at gate, ransoming mission runners. Drugging people at the bar in rancer or wotever else i can think of.
Every ship has a cargo hold, every ship potentially can earn you a fortune.
I bet if i said "hey that shuttle has a 500m implant in it" any of the guys complaining about gate camps would kill it.
I kill to see whats inside, then try to squeeze more by ransoming pod.
Here is the inside scoop you may want to copy and paste this to keep reminding yourself.
Nub ships have a scanner and are capable of providing intel
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Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2007.07.21 11:26:00 -
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I sometimes blow people up just becasue i dont like to have to many around me and im antisocial bastard. even if i steal your loot and salvage your wreck - this is not piracy. thats just me beeing an ******* 
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