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Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:11:00 - [1] Its a documentary and you have to watch it, spread it around. http://www.tv-links.co.uk/link.do/9...260/48478/70715 This is scary **** and all to true. link to page if that doesnt work http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/9/4795
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:07:00 - [2] 911 was an inside job no question state terror is nothing new rly there hasnt changed much in the last thousand years except the technological aspect
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:10:00 - [3] Why not just link to the Google version? ...and what does 9/11 have to do with anything? I thought Zeitgeist was about religion. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:45:00 - [4] dont think to much
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:09:00 - [5] thats just where i found it
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:10:00 - [6] What a disappointment. I watched it for a while thinking it was going to be something interesting. Instead it turned out to be a poorly presented and utterly deluded rant against religion, mostly Christianity. I want back the 15 minutes I wasted on this. Most governments separate state and religion in Western society. From what I could tell from this rant it was implied that governments use religion to suppress the populace. In reality the vast majority of ordinary people in Western society despise religion and religious/racial persecution is quite common. I probably should have watched more of the video to get the full message but I really couldn't stomach the points it was trying to make from its incessant use of graphical war images. This is nothing more than anti-religious propaganda by malcontents.
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:48:00 - [7] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 20/07/2007 13:04:24 you really should watch the whole thing and then comment on it again - just skip this religion blabla...i think it sucks the part of the central bank is most interesting
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:59:00 - [8] Bad conspiracy theory 101. Load of doggie doo.
Ealiom Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:00:00 - [9] To be honest you shouldnt be linking to stuff like that on the eve forums, teen rated and all. Executioner Model Blackbird Model
Nadjer	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Miss Anthropy What a disappointment. I watched it for a while thinking it was going to be something interesting. Instead it turned out to be a poorly presented and utterly deluded rant against religion, mostly Christianity. I want back the 15 minutes I wasted on this. Most governments separate state and religion in Western society. From what I could tell from this rant it was implied that governments use religion to suppress the populace. In reality the vast majority of ordinary people in Western society despise religion and religious/racial persecution is quite common. I probably should have watched more of the video to get the full message but I really couldn't stomach the points it was trying to make from its incessant use of graphical war images. This is nothing more than anti-religious propaganda by malcontents. Yeah, you should have watched more. The video is in 3 parts, only the first part is about religion and it's more about the origins of religion that it being used as a tool for population control. The latter 2 parts are about population control through lying governments, war and banking corporations.

Keta Min Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Ealiom To be honest you shouldnt be linking to stuff like that on the eve forums, teen rated and all. what exactly does the movie contain that you consider not suitable for younger members?
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:00:00 - [12] More relevant would be the "no politics" rule. --------
Shanzem DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:05:00 - [13] wtf.. i want what this guys on.. on second thoughts.. i pass on that... -------------------------------------------
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:16:00 - [14] I think the only mistake this film made was putting the religious section first, cause religious people are so blinded by thiere own stupidity they cant see past the first bit, even though its true.
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.20 23:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Ealiom To be honest you shouldnt be linking to stuff like that on the eve forums, teen rated and all. what exactly does the movie contain that you consider not suitable for younger members? some of the war/holocaust footage might be a little graphic to be put under a teen rating Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
Dau Imperius Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.21 01:30:00 - [16] My two hands give this movie two thumbs up. I've favourited it and plan on putting it on an ipod, to stfu any religious/political/my-nation-is-great, etc nutter I see who's blinded by 'the system'. Guess what people. Human's (are) f'd up.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2007.07.21 10:23:00 - [17] Any well educated, well read person will be able to figure it out as just a representation of extremelly well known "unknown" lore. The religion thing? check THe Government thing? check The great Zaibatsu Theory Conspiracy? check It's as much a cosnpiracy theory as saying that Bob is filled with Devs that give away BPo's. The fact that it CAN or Cannot be true (or was true) is irrelevant of the main issue. Now focus on the movie and what ir represents you have to ask yourself: Do you as a person, a fully functional human being, agree to this? Or, do you disagree to this? If so, Will you support it, concisously or let it go Or by disagreeing, will you plan to oppose it or relegate it as inconsequential to your life? Do not see the movie as it is, see what the movie CONVEYS I have made my choice, several years ago, have you made yours? Discuss the fact per se, the original idea, not the useless rant of semantics that only serves to obscure the message. Just my thoughts *"The Theology Council is watching ... YOU!!!"* Viva VENEZUELA!!!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.07.21 11:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Kassidus I think the only mistake this film made was putting the religious section first, cause religious people are so blinded by thiere own stupidity they cant see past the first bit, even though its true. Oh im sorry, am i stupid now because im a confirmed catholic? thanks. -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Dau Imperius Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Kassidus I think the only mistake this film made was putting the religious section first, cause religious people are so blinded by thiere own stupidity they cant see past the first bit, even though its true. Oh im sorry, am i stupid now because im a confirmed catholic? thanks. Yes. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer eh? Meh, sounds like trolling, but this person was fishing for it.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.07.21 20:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Dau Imperius Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Kassidus I think the only mistake this film made was putting the religious section first, cause religious people are so blinded by thiere own stupidity they cant see past the first bit, even though its true. Oh im sorry, am i stupid now because im a confirmed catholic? thanks. Yes. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer eh? Meh, sounds like trolling, but this person was fishing for it. Given that you just answered a rhetorical question, i might reconsider who you call stupid, i was pointing out that im not stupid despite being religious like the guy says, you sir are a jackass. -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!

Sith8 The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.21 21:21:00 - [21] Edited by: Sith8 on 21/07/2007 21:21:56 If you ppl could put the Religion part aside where the Author is merely pointing out that Christianity has "borrowed" heavily from other religions and that religion in our society just as in most if not all others has and is being used as means of social control. 1st thing that really got my attention was WTC#7 I really cannot find any logical way to expain how a building with fires on 2 or 3 floors can collapse like it did, I mean I have seen this kind of imposion many times on Discovery under controled circumstances allegedly that was not the case on 9/11 (controled cirumstance that is). Second is how do you manage to get 12 tonnes of Jet Engine to vaporise? You surely can¦t do it by burning it in jetfuel, it¦s scientificly impossible for Jetfuel to burn that hot. As for the WTO/International Bankers.... yea I was shocked cuz I didn¦t realize just how extensive the grip banks and financial institutions have on society is.... That every single dollar issued has a dept attached to it that cannot be repayed whitout borrowing more and therefore continuing the vicious cirle. I think it¦s a must see, people don¦t have to take it at face value, but it¦s something to think about at least.
Keta Min Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.21 23:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Dark Kavar Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Ealiom To be honest you shouldnt be linking to stuff like that on the eve forums, teen rated and all. what exactly does the movie contain that you consider not suitable for younger members? some of the war/holocaust footage might be a little graphic to be put under a teen rating nope, in our society showing documentary images of war and violece is ok. it's all this evil sex stuff that the kids must be shielded from.
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.07.22 03:16:00 - [23] This is the biggest load of conspiracy theory crap mixed with lies and misinformation i've seen in a while. From the beginning drivel about parallels betwen the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus which is 99% bogus, it is all downhill from there. Before you post crap like this again do some reading and check the 'facts.' The sentiment of questioning the roots and machinations of religion, government and business are fine, but seriously the old conspiracy of a secret controlling order is old and bull****. Here's a word up for you, if it mentions the illuminati, it's a tired old conspiracy reworked
Eval B'Stard	Posted - 2007.07.22 07:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Locus Bey This is the biggest load of conspiracy theory crap mixed with lies and misinformation i've seen in a while. From the beginning drivel about parallels betwen the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus which is 99% bogus, it is all downhill from there. Before you post crap like this again do some reading and check the 'facts.' The sentiment of questioning the roots and machinations of religion, government and business are fine, but seriously the old conspiracy of a secret controlling order is old and bull****. Here's a word up for you, if it mentions the illuminati, it's a tired old conspiracy reworked I guess we'll find out in a few years whether or not this is the case, I'm just glad I'll probably be either dead or too old to worry about it. I guess thats kind of a selfish attitude but what the hell if so many of you people are prepared to sit back and say "nothings wrong it's all good" then why the hell should I care ? To my mind this documovie provides some interesting evidence and raises a number of questions to be dismissed out of hand like you are doing. Unless of course you are somehow involved
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:26:00 - [25] Originally by: Locus Bey This is the biggest load of conspiracy theory crap mixed with lies and misinformation i've seen in a while. From the beginning drivel about parallels betwen the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus which is 99% bogus, it is all downhill from there. Before you post crap like this again do some reading and check the 'facts.' The sentiment of questioning the roots and machinations of religion, government and business are fine, but seriously the old conspiracy of a secret controlling order is old and bull****. Here's a word up for you, if it mentions the illuminati, it's a tired old conspiracy reworked dont think to much on your own it is unhealthy and remember ignorence is strength
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.07.22 08:58:00 - [26] Originally by: LUH 3471 Edited by: LUH 3471 on 22/07/2007 08:37:00 Originally by: Locus Bey This is the biggest load of conspiracy theory crap mixed with lies and misinformation i've seen in a while. From the beginning drivel about parallels betwen the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus which is 99% bogus, it is all downhill from there. Before you post crap like this again do some reading and check the 'facts.' The sentiment of questioning the roots and machinations of religion, government and business are fine, but seriously the old conspiracy of a secret controlling order is old and bull**. Here's a word up for you, if it mentions the illuminati, it's a tired old conspiracy reworked dont think to much on your own it is unhealthy and remember ignorence is strength the movie simply shows a few things the individual can choose to invastigate or not for example the central bank system there is absolutly no conspiracy nature about it now go do your homework expand your knowledge i have done my homework smartarse, that's why i said it was bull and cited the Horus/Jesus comparison If you had yourself investigated** you would know. bit of advice for you don't swallow the first thing you see or read, you might end up looking like an idiot. here's a hint: google the film, a few of the authors cited and a couple of the premises it puts forward, and see what comes up. if you had actually read and processed what i'd said you'd see i said it's good to question, just don't fall for the crap.
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.22 09:22:00 - [27] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 22/07/2007 09:24:05 Originally by: Locus Bey This is the biggest load of conspiracy theory crap mixed with lies and misinformation i've seen in a while. From the beginning drivel about parallels betwen the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus which is 99% bogus, it is all downhill from there. Before you post crap like this again do some reading and check the 'facts.' The sentiment of questioning the roots and machinations of religion, government and business are fine, but seriously the old conspiracy of a secret controlling order is old and bull**. Here's a word up for you, if it mentions the illuminati, it's a tired old conspiracy reworked dont think to much on your own it is unhealthy and remember ignorence is strength the movie simply shows a few things the individual can choose to invastigate or not for example the central bank system there is absolutly no conspiracy nature about it now go do your homework expand your knowledge i have done my homework smartarse, that's why i said it was bull and cited the Horus/Jesus comparison If you had yourself investigated** you would know. bit of advice for you don't swallow the first thing you see or read, you might end up looking like an idiot. here's a hint: google the film, a few of the authors cited and a couple of the premises it puts forward, and see what comes up. if you had actually read and processed what i'd said you'd see i said it's good to question, just don't fall for the crap. yes the comparasion is bs but who cares about that anyway the rly interesting thing is the relationship between astrology and religions it is indeed a very interesting topic they were connected more then 5000thousand years ago and are still to this day also on other continents
Detei Aran Gallente Helios Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.22 11:21:00 - [28] Edited by: Detei Aran on 22/07/2007 11:25:26 Edited by: Detei Aran on 22/07/2007 11:23:04 Wierd as it sounds, I spent the entire movie disagreeing with it. After analyzing WHY I disagree, my heart stopped for a second. It's fear. -I'm a christian. I'm AFRAID to believe anything that my religion condems and / or doesn't directly endorse because I might not reap the rewards of simply having faith, blind or not as it may be. -I'm a US citizen. I'm AFRAID to believe that 9/11 and all previous related and / or similar events throughout history were staged by some secretive and controlling power because, my god if it IS true, that act allows them to come to my house, arrest, torture, and imprision without question or regulation. -I'm a human being. I'm AFRAID to believe that some group of men control and self appointedly govern the world I live in because, well hell, If I were to believe that I'd be crazy and shunned right? Because no one believes that, its just too far out there. Not enough of the people I share this earth with believe it, therefore I should not, right? I want to open my eyes and question the state of this world I live in, but I'm just to scared to do that. People might look at me strange. I bet theres a tiny little feeling inside each and every one of you, REGARDLESS of having seen this film, that wants to know but is just to afraid to question. Why? Because everything you know, everything you've been raised and tought to know, tells you not to. The only thing this movie does to me is add a feeling of selfishness to my fear to question. Eject!! They can't break our titanium plated egg!
Agnar Koladrov Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.07.22 16:21:00 - [29] Edited by: Agnar Koladrov on 22/07/2007 16:22:24 Where to start, just saw the movie, not really that shocking at all. All is about manipulations (of the masses) and gaining of power. whether it was 2000 years ago or now in the present. And yes people are easily manilupized, this is fact. Look in your surroundings, how easy is it to spread a rumor arround about someone other also know, whether is be a good or bad one. Point is, you can see it on a small scale everywhere if you know what to look for. Everyone keep in mind one thing: 'power' makes corrupt. No matter what the 'power' is. First religion. Regilion is just there as a control factor, or better said was there as a control factor, as it is less of it now a days. Instituted by the Roman empire. Think inquisition and the persuid of destruction of followers of Luther etc. If you, as a power/government, dictates what is the One (True) thing to believe in and make everything else not legal anymore. Then you will have, mostly overtime, "a" form of control over your populace. The 911 thing. Could be true in a form, though if it was, how small ever, it would be the BIGGEST and most evil thing that would have come to light in this century to date. And would probably destroy the global economy and the United States government/economy as we know it know. Banking/finance. Well, I can understand this can be true. I know of several people that are only focused on money in there lives and are not really interested in other things. There world revolves arround money. Put this in a context of such person being in a position of gaining 'power' in a world that still had HUGE potential and you have a receipy for what is being told. Anybody here know of the G8? (sure) Globalizing Economy? Does it hold any truth? I think it does. But not nessecary in the precice context of the movie. Some things sound TOO evil, but ******(that second ww dude from Germany....) was..., so it could just be. Money and the power over people makes man corrupt. Espacially those who think purly out of own interest and have no heart. Anyway, it issues an intruiging look at how our world could have been/was/is build. Build on manipulation. Whether it holds truth or not. ________________________________________________ -- What a Revelation! -- Where was the creativty for speed/mass/etc when the tier2 Battlecruisers were designed? Why the same for each race BC?
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.07.22 19:53:00 - [30] Leave it to the eve comunity to be mostly intelligent and open minded save a few religious people that cant get past there brainwashed lives. Except for that one guy that sees the problem but is just to scared to do anything. Either way the movie makes you think and It hits home with me cause i can see it all happening and have always half beleived in this anyways this film just put to words what i already thought. But I hope for the world as a whole its not true , atleast the second and third parts. As far as religion goes thats just not doing anyone any good and needs to stop.



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