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Gary Sinise
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Posted - 2007.07.21 19:59:00 -
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I'm a relatively new player, about four months old and I finally have a decent Level 4 mission agent available but it's in a dead end 0.4 system. I'd think pirates wouldn't bother with such a system since it would be difficult to get your ships through high sec to a dead end low sec system.
I decide to scout the system in my pod and when I jump in there's a carrier, several command ships, and battleships camping the gate. I warp to a planet then back to the gate but I'm smart bombed
I'm not trying to whine but it doesn't seem like the reward is worth the risk of running missions in low sec. Is it worth it to ever run missions in low sec? What do pirates get out of smartbombing pods?
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Dau Imperius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:01:00 -
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First off...never scout in a pod. That was just plain silly.
Second, I'll let someone else answer as to what jollies they get. I dislike PvP, period.
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:06:00 -
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you are stupid
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:07:00 -
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1. Honestly, when accounting for the extra time youd need scouting, occasional losses, and having to run whenever a -10 shows up in system youre probably better off doing missions in highsec. NPCs are really borked, in so many ways.
2. They do it for the lulz, obviously. And for e-peening with their ganker buddies, like those guys who bomb shuttles all day in Rancer with a momship.
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Erlik Draknor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:08:00 -
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have a nice life, can i have your stuff?
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Gary Sinise
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:10:00 -
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thanks for the nice reply Del
what is up with viscious people in eve-o forums? i'm getting trolled for what?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Sinise
thanks for the nice reply Del
what is up with viscious people in eve-o forums? i'm getting trolled for what?
Dont take it seriously. :)
Missions in low sec are dangerous, and if you pick a system where pirates like to camp (like Rancer) to do missions in, then you are going to die a lot. But you cant know all that if you're new. You'll learn. Dont fly anything you cant afford to lose in the beginning. :)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:14:00 -
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well you were in a pod... so to those guys there is a good thing you looked like an alt.
did you convo one of the members and talk to them?
in lowsec, when someone is using a carrier just talking can get you safe passage.
however, if your in a noob corp that won't work.
but if you any corp that they are on nothing or good terms with they will be nice to you.
also it depends on the corp.
was it goonswarm? then lol you were getting out alive.
was it bob? they aren't ones to kill a newer player unless your deep in thier space without telling them.
so yeah try talking.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:15:00 -
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Risk vs. potential or reward (which is actually the correct term, you ****ers!) is seriously screwed as far as low-sec space is concerned. It's not worth all the risk for that little bit extra.
If your aim is to run missions, do it in hi-sec space.
This web-site is a good place to find a good agent. Get one in hi-sec space and don't forget to check the security status of all immediately adjacent systems.
Good luck!
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Sinise
thanks for the nice reply Del
what is up with viscious people in eve-o forums? i'm getting trolled for what?
Because you are new or disagree with them or have a valid point or they feel inadequate. Pick one or two. Welcome to EvE.
Moral of story, before you go mission running in LowSec you need to learn how the game works from all sides and how to avoid/detect issues such as a carrier on the other side of the gate.
Then you decide whether it is worth the effort or not.....
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Elayanith deVries
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:33:00 -
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Hi Gary
Welcome to the game.
Well you can fly level 4 missions now and you are looking for a good place to do that in lowsec.
Cant tell you where but kepp the following in mind.....
Use the map.....there are filters to see how many people got ganked / poded during the last hour. If there is only one way in there is only one way out.  ( trap )
Check the agents of the corp you are flying for and find a suitable system in lowsec.
Check on the map if you see an omnious red or yellow glow....( means lots of kills )
If not go and have a look. Dont go in a pod...either use a shuttle or if you can use mwd use a speed frig.
After finding your new hunting grounds get to know the surroundings and start some social networking if you are so inclined. Its always nice to get a warning from the next system if the "locusts" are moving through again. 
Once you start running missions keep the following in mind.
Always watch local.......if bad guys show up go to step number 2.
Learn to use the scanner and use it in a 360¦ seting at about 10 AU (1.5 billion km ) checking for probes.
You are interested in the letter s for scanprobe in your readings.
Do this every 5 minutes.
Get to know the ranges of the different probes and should you see a snoop or fathom probe near you ( under 10 AU for the fathom, under 5 for the snoop ) get the hell out of there to a save spot you have created beforehand.
Never fly something in lowsec you cant afford to loose.
With best wishes for a successfull lowsec mission running career.
Elayanith
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Sinise
I'm a relatively new player, about four months old and I finally have a decent Level 4 mission agent available but it's in a dead end 0.4 system. I'd think pirates wouldn't bother with such a system since it would be difficult to get your ships through high sec to a dead end low sec system.
I decide to scout the system in my pod and when I jump in there's a carrier, several command ships, and battleships camping the gate. I warp to a planet then back to the gate but I'm smart bombed
I'm not trying to whine but it doesn't seem like the reward is worth the risk of running missions in low sec. Is it worth it to ever run missions in low sec? What do pirates get out of smartbombing pods?
You're really thinking about how to get around the LowSec problem, which is great, even if it didn't work out for you this time. A few things that might help if you're still interested in the challenge:
- Check the map filters, maybe over a few days and at different times, for active players in space, ships destroyed, and pod kills to get a better idea of the nature of a system.
- You've found out about smartbombs being very unfriendly to pods. Next time, use your directional scanner and Local to figure out when they leave the gate. Or, use a ship with some tank. Small and fast is good for getting through any gatecamp, but if you're dealing with smart bombs, you need some hp buffer too.
- Related to that, keep in mind that dead end systems can be a little too literally that, for the same reasons they can be promising too.
A lot of people will tell you though that LowSec isn't worth the trouble for mission runners. They're probably right a lot of the time, but it depends on what you're playing for.
Anyway, good luck.
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dr34dp1r4t3r0b3rts
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.21 20:52:00 -
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Open up your map.
Under the world map control panel, choose star map.
Under the "color stars by" tab open statistics and choose "ships destroyed in the last 24 hours." The places with red dots are regularly camped.
Now, choose "ships destroyed in the last hour." The places with red or yellow dots are likely camped right now.
Now, choose "Pirate and Police ships destroyed in the last 24 hours." The bright blobs in low sec are the places where anyone with a map looking to gank mission runners will go.
If your agent isn't in or near any of those systems, you're probably okay to run missions there so long as you don't do something stupid like stop scanning for probes or go around in your pod.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2007.07.21 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Sinise
I'm not trying to whine but it doesn't seem like the reward is worth the risk of running missions in low sec. Is it worth it to ever run missions in low sec?
Yes, or at least it was last time I tried (before my baby-induced break from EvE a couple of months ago). The rewards (ISK & LP) are considerably better in low-sec.
The caveat to this is that you have to find a low-sec agent where you won't be killed by pirates every five minutes. This is possible, more so in less populated areas, such as anything other than Caldari space. Looking for a dead-end system is a good idea, and your reasoning that pirates wouldn't bother is good. Sadly, there are some dead-end systems that are regular haunts of pirates, and you seem to have found one of them.
As other people have said: use the map to see recent kills, and scout around (not in a pod).
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What do pirates get out of smartbombing pods?
A respite from the boredom of camping in a dead-end 0.4 system? A slight thrill from the knowledge that they've annoyed you? Respect from their fellow pirates? Pleasure from role-playing a ruthless criminal? You'd have to ask them.
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Moridin920
Gallente
Dust Echoes
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.21 21:08:00 -
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Your assumption that pirates don't like dead end low sec isn't very good to begin with...
Personally, while it is a major pain in the *** to get modules and ships into a dead end low sec constellation, I love pirating there. It's simply because a lot of people don't think pirates would like it, and you get Hulks solo mining in a .3 system, and you pick up some nice ransoms.
I've noticed that anti-pirate groups are usually more cohesive and organized defending those particular constellations/systems so a slightly different strategy on my part is required versus my normal solo in a slow and hard hitting ship.
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Grab Khan
New Justice
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.21 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Sinise
I'm a relatively new player, about four months old and I finally have a decent Level 4 mission agent available but it's in a dead end 0.4 system.
I think I know which system and agent you're talking about (I was just as excited when I was first able to use it). Besides the pirate problem you've just discovered, you'll also struggle (being 4 months old) with the level 4 missions themselves.
The same corporation has a high quality level 3 agent in high sec (you probably worked for him already). In my case, I found out that I was making considerably more ISK grinding the level 3 missions than struggling on the level 4's.
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I'd think pirates wouldn't bother with such a system since it would be difficult to get your ships through high sec to a dead end low sec system.
Now think from the pirate perspective, and you'll realize that system is a very nice place for camping :) (and yes, it's camped almost permanently). Logistics aren't that hard either (alts, carrier jumps, etc)
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