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Inspir
Gallente
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.22 03:19:00 -
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I was just playing with this idea in my mind, and am wondering if you can think of any consequences of this change that I have not.
I consider myself a heavy drone user when it comes to PVP. None of my setups purely rely on guns, and my SP distribution reflects that. Now consider this scenario:
You are in a drone dependent ship. You deploy heavies, which pound away at your target consistently. However, out of the blue they burn their own mwd and head straight for you leaving your heavies trailing behind out of their optimal range landing no hits.
To re-address the situation the drone user would have to pickup the deployed drones to adapt by deploying different types of drones. Accomplishing this task whilst avoiding web range (for example) of your foe, often proves a delicate and deadly tango. You realize you donÆt have the tank to match so you warp out.
I wonder how gameplay would be effected if we had the option to ôdisengageö control of specific drones, leaving them floating in space allowing you to deploy new drones whilst abandoning disengaged drones.
Once disengaged these drones cannot be reused, and can either be scooped into your cargo hold, or destroyed by either party.
This is a double edged sword as drone users can actually equip for a greater number of scenarios. However, this tactic if applied in haste permanently reduces ones ability to adapt ad-hoc as your drones are abandoned.
I see many drone users just fitting out for DPS, as rarely do situations lend themselves to using damp drones, web drones, ecm drones etc especially when flying solo. This could change that effectively adding variety to the fight. (This variety can work for or against the drone user). As the foe of the drone user, an added tactic would be to æforceÆ the drone user to ædisengageÆ drones by various maneuvers (i.e. changing rapidly the pace of the battle, encouraging a knee jerk reaction) in an attempt to lessen the drone users kill power.
Disclaimer: This is not a whine thread; eve is a great game. Just playing with an idea that I think would add depth to the usual ôok im in range>deploy drones> engageö paradigm.
For example in favor of the drone user (myrmidon):
If you are orbiting a hurricane and you have medium deployed from your myrmidon. You realize he does not have a sensor booster. He is also hitting you for considerable damage. Quickly, disengage the medium drones and deploy sensordamp drones and increase orbit distance until he looses lock and continue to pound away with your rail guns.
Example in favor of hurricane:
The hurricane user realizes he disengaged his drones as a reaction from the massive damage outed by its T2 AC. Ill burn my MWD and go straight towards him (using heat for extra speed) to get in lock range. This will scare him/her to disengaging drones again forcing the myrmidon to use the remainder of drones in the bay (if any remain) reducing the myrmidons options later in the fight. [Alternatively the myrmidon must recall these slow drones which in the meantime the hurricane slips behind optimal and into webrange].
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flapie 2
Gallente
Flap's Construction Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.22 03:46:00 -
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err sounds cool, but in adition to large fleets andso would it not create a large blob warfare, as in lag and lots a drones in space.
Since most drone ships can carry manny drones i can imagen them being spammed around to creat lag or as a barrier between 2 groups to slow down the faster scramming/webbing ships.
Just a thought thought tho, i mean i like the idee in general, since drones also seem to atack random targets while you dint command them to engage that target in the first place, this option could improve the drone movement.
--Never stoped to be a noob--
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Inspir
Gallente
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.22 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Inspir on 22/07/2007 04:03:38
 Originally by: flapie 2
err sounds cool, but in adition to large fleets andso would it not create a large blob warfare, as in lag and lots a drones in space.
Since most drone ships can carry manny drones i can imagen them being spammed around to creat lag or as a barrier between 2 groups to slow down the faster scramming/webbing ships.
Just a thought thought tho, i mean i like the idee in general, since drones also seem to atack random targets while you dint command them to engage that target in the first place, this option could improve the drone movement.
Admiralty this idea was spurred on with the pretext of 1v1 or small gangs. But donÆt forget, disengaging drones is not in-itself a wise decision unless you specifically need to redeploy to adapt.
In the fleet scenarios ive been in, all the changes in æpaceÆ rarely lend themselves to redeploying drones.
Unless of course ive missed the fleetops where drones were the primary weapon 
EDIT: i just realised you were talking about exploiting.
Well i guess its akin to shuttle bombing, and is just low. Good question though, but it depends on:
1) how much lag it creates to actually be an effective cheapshot. If it were that much, you could do this already by deploying drones and warping off toan offgrid safe, rince repeat. I havnt heard of this happening. I dont think cargo holds (save carriers/dreads) are big enough to cause that big of a problem.
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flapie 2
Gallente
Flap's Construction Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.22 04:02:00 -
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hehe idd good point .... as you might notice i dont fleet battle that much :P my pc cant handle that, whas just curious about it ;)
--Never stoped to be a noob--
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Xorlev
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Posted - 2007.07.22 05:05:00 -
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I'd like this. There were many times my target decided to cruise out of my web and out to 45km where I couldn't reach him, then his friend would be able to beat on me while I frantically called my Ogres back in order to deploy my Hammerheads or Warriors. Sometimes I just want to cut the link and deploy new drones, and scoop them up later.
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Inspir
Gallente
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Inspir on 22/07/2007 11:50:44
Yea, it is also a semi-solution to stupid drones :P
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