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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Target on 22/07/2007 11:17:53
I'm thinking of skilling up to fly a Curse. However, I'm not sure if I'll prefer it to Minmatar Recons/HACs.
Stabbers are good for testing the fast Minmatar style.
Is there a cheap/low-ish SP ship I can fly to give me an idea of how a Curse would handle?
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:19:00 -
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Uhm, the arbitrator obviously...
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 22/07/2007 11:19:47
lol thats kinda obvious...the arbitrator offcourse, just imagine you didnt have all those capproblems while orbitting @ 24 km.
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Tamoko
Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tamoko on 22/07/2007 11:25:07
The arbitrator can hardly be considered a mini-curse. It doesn't get the Nos bonus; and as a result, can't be flown hardly the same way.
Though I suppose it'd do just to get an idea how the curse flies. Maybe... sorta.
You'll have to decide what's more important to you: Solo gratification, or gang warfare. If solo is your thing, I can't praise the Curse enough. Huginns & Rapiers are best suited to group combat, though.
(edit) Not to suggest the curse is a poor gang ship. It does have a few issues, though: It's cap is tiny, and has troubles warping long distances on short notice, and you have to take great care of your drones since they're your only weapon.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:26:00 -
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Not exactly. The arbitrator is the (obvious) t1 version, but it is missing the nos bonuses, especially the nos range bonus. Which makes it more a t1 version of the pilgrim than the curse from the playstyle.
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Sidephex
Illicit Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:33:00 -
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http://www.efury.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=2378
speaks for itself...
just fly the arbitrator. ofc it gets no NOS bonus etc
but stabber doesnt get all the bonus the vaga gets either
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:45:00 -
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Thank you - good advice here, and so fast too! 
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Corwain
Gallente
Kamite
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Posted - 2007.07.22 11:54:00 -
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Arbicurseistabberbond:
2x 425mm Medium Prototype I Automatic Cannon [75xCarbonized Lead M]
Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I [33xWidowmaker Heavy Missile]
Drone Link Augmentor I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I
3x Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Overdrive Injector System II
Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Low Friction Nozzle Joints I \ Low Friction Nozzle Joints I \
5x Hammerhead II
You can test it for me.
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steveid
Templar Securities and Holdings
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.22 12:17:00 -
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the thing about the curse is it makes up for its crappy dps by draining the cap of their opponent meaning that their tank is screwed unless they are passive.
With this is mind the closest ship to the curse is probably the nos domi. Drones for damage, nos to kill their tank while maintaining your own.
What these guys are refering to is a compleately different animal which would be the nanocurse and as far as that goes there really arn't any t1 counterparts, certainly not the arbitrator altho thats not a bad start if you fit it right.
What you lookig for is a ship that orbits at range while dampening the target and killing with drones. this is difficult in the arbitrator due to not having the slots for it, perhaps practice in a celestis?
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.07.22 12:19:00 -
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It's not cheap but you also got that faction cruiser ashimmu... for the nos-bonus
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.22 12:26:00 -
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Arbi with Corpum-A nos of course! 
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Murehz
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Posted - 2007.07.22 12:37:00 -
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Because no other ship has a bonus to NOS range to get a similar effect for starters I would say you need heavy NOS which means battleships only.
If your aiming to do damage with you drones that takes it down to geddon, domi and typhoon.
You could of course use another form of damage apart from drones, whilst going at speed though the only other option is missiles.
Options if your using missiles include typhoon and raven.
Most curses also fit EW, out of the options above that restricts you to domi or raven.
It really comes down to how you want to do your damage and whether you want to go more for speed or EW.
If you want lots of EW and missiles go raven.
If you want more speed but little EW and both missiles and drones go for phoon.
If you want all damage from drones and with medium speed and a bit of EW go for domi.
None of these will get reasonable speeds without poly rigs and a few implants so its not a huge amount cheaper than the curse but if requires less sp.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:53:00 -
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ashimmu
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putting the gist back into logistics |
Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.07.22 20:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Roemy Schneider
ashimmu
yeah that's ******* cheap...
Benn Helmsman> Could a mod give this guy a snip for constant insulting without giving any point to the topic? |
Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.22 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
ashimmu
yeah that's ******* cheap...
so your saying a curse is cheap?
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Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.07.23 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gladiator Jonny
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
ashimmu
yeah that's ******* cheap...
so your saying a curse is cheap?
no I'm saying he's asking for a cheap/low SP version of the curse... the answer is abritrator, not ashimmu, especially cause the ashimmu has no drones, no nos range bonus, no tracking disruptor bonus, and no similarity to the ******* curse at all, other than both will use some nos
good enough?
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.07.23 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sidephex
http://www.efury.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=2378
speaks for itself...
just fly the arbitrator. ofc it gets no NOS bonus etc
but stabber doesnt get all the bonus the vaga gets either
Yeah a t1 fitted Demios...I bet that pilot had true skill.
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.07.23 10:42:00 -
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Its not cheap but it's available with low sp - stfu plz
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Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.07.23 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Pinky Denmark
Its not cheap but it's available with low sp - stfu plz
oh nice... why don't you stfu and read what the OP wants? he wants a curse alternative, for learning how to fly one before buying one... that's an arbitrator, not an ashimmu... as I mentioned the only similarity between the curse and the ashimmu is that they'll both fit nos, and that they're both cruisers
oh and as for it being available for low SP, sure... if you live in ******* BOB space
think before you post
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.07.23 19:46:00 -
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you could also use vexor
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.23 20:28:00 -
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Thank you all - amazing response!
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Kua Immortal
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.23 22:19:00 -
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After seeing that KM (arbitrator pwns faction fitted deimos) - which considering the deimos had no mwd (I wonder if he only had AM charges too) is unsurprising but still looks really cool - I really wanna get out there and fly an arbitrator. Kudos to the pilot.
<3 T1 cruisers, well apart from Caldari ones  .
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The RepoMan
Caldari
Red Horizon Inc
Red Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.23 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Sidephex
http://www.efury.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=2378
speaks for itself...
just fly the arbitrator. ofc it gets no NOS bonus etc
but stabber doesnt get all the bonus the vaga gets either
Yeah a t1 fitted Demios...I bet that pilot had true skill.
With an ab... wtf... pretty much any ship could have killed this nubcake.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.23 22:32:00 -
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I summary the answer is:
No
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