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Bevil Smyth Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Bevil Smyth on 24/07/2007 12:42:50 haha oops: post: why does everyone want to stop people doing something they want to? BS are cool, and can be good fun to fly, stop trying to ram your playstyle down people's throats. /rant over
C Black Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:43:00 - [2] they dont have one or they had one and it went boom on the first flight. CB Looking for all old friend of Wishsong Corp. eVe Mail me. C Black
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Bevil Smyth I find your views intriguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. --------
Maceross horizons GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:45:00 - [4] haha yeah sorry this is the real me i thought i saw a unicorn or something out the window and smacked my big fat hands on the enter button in exclamation before even making the post.
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:46:00 - [5] heh eve is ALL ABOUT ramming your playstyle down someone else's throat. Don't like pvp? Suicide gankers or low sec gate campers will cramp your style. Prefer to mine in peace? Loot thieves will swipe your hard work at a moments notice. Prefer missions? Sure, just don't try any level 5s or you'll get scanned down and popped while the npcs have their way with you. ahhh gotta love eve :) ========== CELES KB: http://www.celeskills.com
Mindy Moobah Caldari Tech Five Giants	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Bevil Smyth Edited by: Bevil Smyth on 24/07/2007 12:42:50 haha oops: post: why does everyone want to stop people doing something they want to? BS are cool, and can be good fun to fly, stop trying to ram your playstyle down people's throats. /rant over what? Evil Girl You are going too fast! Wait a minute and try again.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:49:00 - [7] http://www.entrepreneurpress.com/postcat/images/items/no-bs-wealth-attraction_lg.gif - Image as always changed to link - hutch
Great Artista Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:50:00 - [8] BS's have (IMO) too many ways to counter smaller ships, thus people tend to fly them alot. As a solo-, dedicated cruiser/BC sized pilot, its giving me a hard time. _______ GA out.
Maceross horizons GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.24 12:53:00 - [9] IS that not balanced though, by the fact they are waaaay more expensive to buy, insure & equip then said smaller ships? Im a BC pilot mostly myself, but id expect to be kicked by a BS that cost about 3x as much as my ship.
Deep Spacer	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:10:00 - [10] Seems most people that fly small frigates/cruisers in combat want a battleship to be a giant, lumbering target, with no defense at all to small ships. I suppose in a game to be balanced it should be possible...but if you think about it realistically, a battleship in eve has far too few defenses against small ships. No point defense laser thingies, machine guns, auto-targeting missile systems like any self respecting super ship should have to fend off those pesky fighters. If anything battleships, carriers, dreadnoughts, titans whatever should have piles more anti-frigate/anti drone weaponry. But for now, its as balanced as it should be (cept for nos kinda) and a group of frigates should be able to drop a battleship...eventually...with heavy losses. People fly what they want to, and pay the prices...should be no hate on either side. this post is probly horrible to read. im tired

Shoukei	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:14:00 - [11] battleships are way to cheap. insurance on them nets you too much isk.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Shoukei battleships are way to cheap. insurance on them nets you too much isk. Yeah, if you do a full civilian fitting. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Vito Parabellum Fivrelde Corp	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Bevil Smyth I find your views intriguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Dito, would love rss feed too. Moar pls! ------ When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
Shoukei	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Shoukei battleships are way to cheap. insurance on them nets you too much isk. Yeah, if you do a full civilian fitting. - 40 mil for fittings, 1 hour of npcing in a half decent system. - 30 mil for insurance, another 1 hour of npcing. - getting almost all your isk back? priceless
Maceross horizons GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Shoukei battleships are way to cheap. insurance on them nets you too much isk. your wrongness is the size of a galaxy. Battleships are expensive, they are priced well, unless your some megarich hardcore player or uberminer they are pretty tough to replace properly if you are a regular player that does not score endless free ships off their corp. Please remember we arent all minted.
Steini OFSI Gallente Minigame	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Shoukei Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Shoukei battleships are way to cheap. insurance on them nets you too much isk. Yeah, if you do a full civilian fitting. - 40 mil for fittings, 1 hour of npcing in a half decent system. - 30 mil for insurance, another 1 hour of npcing. - getting almost all your isk back? priceless 40 mill fitting is like teh cheap.
Maceross horizons GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Shoukei - 40 mil for fittings, 1 hour of npcing in a half decent system. - 30 mil for insurance, another 1 hour of npcing. - getting almost all your isk back? priceless You are joking right? i dont even make 70 mil in a week and thats ratting in 0.0 for a couple of hours a night. PPL like you have things like cap ships to aim for, leave BS as the "big" ship that relatively low earners / regular players like myself can aim for realisticly.
WGAnubis Marrith	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:46:00 - [18] This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish.
Shoukei	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:50:00 - [19] 40 mil is not cheap. tech2 prices went down the drain. jita ftw. Originally by: Maceross You are joking right? i dont even make 70 mil in a week and thats ratting in 0.0 for a couple of hours a night. PPL like you have things like cap ships to aim for, leave BS as the "big" ship that relatively low earners / regular players like myself can aim for realisticly. 70 mil per week in 0.0? you lie. i made some 500mil by just killing 1 chained bs every 20 minutes to fix my sec. besides, you're a goon. you are not supposed to fly battleships.
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:50:00 - [20] Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish. Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month?

Ssoraszh Tzarszh Minmatar Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:02:00 - [21] They all fly something more expensive and still fail at pvp. Probably 99% fly vaga and curse, and sometimes some BS will actually kill them, this is obvious a problem with the game and thus people need to be forced out of them by way of <crybaby> to CCP to change the game in their advantage.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish. Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month? Thats about how long it took me to get my first BS. It wasnt my first month, but once I decided to get one, it took about a month of leisurely running l2s and I purchased one. I would think that now with missions being much more lucrative, you could could get one in probably a shade over 2 weeks running l2s. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Shoukei	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Cpt Fina Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month? can i answer this? no matter, i will because im bored and its too hot for the beach. find a noob friend. spend your first few weeks skilling for cruisers while you grind missions for the ship. go with your friend to .0 using a scout alt. settle in some quiet .0 system. you will make some 10mil/hour, depending on the system. as soon as someone enters, just log off. CTRL + Q is the shortcut.
WGAnubis Marrith	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish. Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month? Why do you assume I got it in my first month? Ive been playing for about 5 months now and started saving for my ship in the third.
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:07:00 - [25] Edited by: Cpt Fina on 24/07/2007 14:09:51 Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish. Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month? Why do you assume I got it in my first month? Ive been playing for about 5 months now and started saving for my ship in the third. Oh It's early in the morning over here and i've worked all night. That'll my excuse Edit: Quote: I would think that now with missions being much more lucrative, you could could get one in probably a shade over 2 weeks running l2s. High sec needs a major nerf.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:15:00 - [26] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 24/07/2007 14:09:51 Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith This reminds me of the beret argument with the US military.... "Lets give everyone a beret instead of the ones who have proven themselves and earned it so everyone feels better about themselves." It took me a month to get my megathron, not the shortest amount of time to get into a ship, but not the longest. If you set money away you can easyly eventually afford even a carrier, all it really takes is commitment to a set plan and a setup that allows you to make money. Either that or realize that you need to adapt to max out your method of combat against a target or perish. Just curious, how did you get like 70-80 mil in your first month? Why do you assume I got it in my first month? Ive been playing for about 5 months now and started saving for my ship in the third. Oh It's early in the morning over here and i've worked all night. That'll my excuse Edit: Quote: I would think that now with missions being much more lucrative, you could could get one in probably a shade over 2 weeks running l2s. High sec needs a major nerf. I hate to admit it, but you are right. Its so easy to fit a t1 rupture to go out and PVP and recoup my losses with a night of mission running in highsec with very little risk. Once I get the skills to do L3s and 4s with more ease, then I will be able to fit battleships rinse and repeat. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
WGAnubis Marrith	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Sharupak Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 24/07/2007 14:09:51 Edit: Quote: I would think that now with missions being much more lucrative, you could could get one in probably a shade over 2 weeks running l2s. High sec needs a major nerf. I hate to admit it, but you are right. Its so easy to fit a t1 rupture to go out and PVP and recoup my losses with a night of mission running in highsec with very little risk. Once I get the skills to do L3s and 4s with more ease, then I will be able to fit battleships rinse and repeat. Eh I dont completely agree. Running an L2 mission with an effective rep of 28 on my agent with a base of +17 im lucky to clear a million with reward, time bonus, salvage and anything else I sell or choose to (its a habit of mine to reprocess the crap modules for their minerals to use to make my ammo, poor economic region). Plus you also have to take into account the possibility of being probed down and someone ninja salvaging your wrecks while you fight you can easyly be jipped out of alot of your potental earnings.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:37:00 - [28] Originally by: WGAnubis Marrith Originally by: Sharupak Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 24/07/2007 14:09:51 Edit: Quote: I would think that now with missions being much more lucrative, you could could get one in probably a shade over 2 weeks running l2s. High sec needs a major nerf. I hate to admit it, but you are right. Its so easy to fit a t1 rupture to go out and PVP and recoup my losses with a night of mission running in highsec with very little risk. Once I get the skills to do L3s and 4s with more ease, then I will be able to fit battleships rinse and repeat. Eh I dont completely agree. Running an L2 mission with an effective rep of 28 on my agent with a base of +17 im lucky to clear a million with reward, time bonus, salvage and anything else I sell or choose to (its a habit of mine to reprocess the crap modules for their minerals to use to make my ammo, poor economic region). Plus you also have to take into account the possibility of being probed down and someone ninja salvaging your wrecks while you fight you can easyly be jipped out of alot of your potental earnings. TBH, I dont even bother with the wrecks. I run l2 missions from two agents at a time and will often pickup some lvl1s sometimes... all from the same station. Then I just spend the next hour completeing 3 and sometimes 4 missions at once warping shooting and collecting loot and turn it all in under the bonus time. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Trishan Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:38:00 - [29] Originally by: Sharupak I hate to admit it, but you are right. Its so easy to fit a t1 rupture to go out and PVP and recoup my losses with a night of mission running in highsec with very little risk. Once I get the skills to do L3s and 4s with more ease, then I will be able to fit battleships rinse and repeat. Heh. Then is when you'll find out that T1 doesn't cut it. And that T2 doesn't either. And that, oh my, faction stuff is ridiculously expensive.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Trishan Originally by: Sharupak I hate to admit it, but you are right. Its so easy to fit a t1 rupture to go out and PVP and recoup my losses with a night of mission running in highsec with very little risk. Once I get the skills to do L3s and 4s with more ease, then I will be able to fit battleships rinse and repeat. Heh. Then is when you'll find out that T1 doesn't cut it. And that T2 doesn't either. And that, oh my, faction stuff is ridiculously expensive. I thought about that, but I plan on gang running at that point because its more fun anyways. If the loot is about the same or less...oh well. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.



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