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Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:02:00 -
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A friend of mine convoed me up and asked what a good way to protect his Hulk during Hulkageddon would be.
My answer (because don't undock is for the weak)
How to beat Hulkageddon:
Monitor local
Watch your d-scanner
Fit as much tank as you possibly can.
[Hulk, Anti-Gank]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Booster II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive
22k EHP, with 170 DPS tank for about a minute and some change.
Not too shabby, really. I REALLY DOUBT a Thrasher will be able to kill your Hulk. Any Battlecruiser on the other hand, will. It's conceivable that you could give a battlecruiser a hard time, but it's not a guarantee.
It will take at least 4-5 Thrashers is my guess to knock out that Hulk, so yeah.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
53
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:16:00 -
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Thought miners would just dock up there hulk and pull out there old dusty BS with the minig lazors. |
Mercury Maken
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:23:00 -
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Another good thing to do is to spawn concord in the belt that you are planning to mine in.
It's a good way to see if some one is actively trying to move concord from your belt to gank you, as you will see concord leave the belt your in.
To spawn concord just have an alt or friend shoot your mining character with a newb ship in the belt you plan to mine in and your done. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
84
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:30:00 -
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^ Good one.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Lemok Sonji
Little Miss Duck
46
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:45:00 -
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You don't need any dps tank nor a booster. Just a big enough buffer to handle 1-2 attackers.
After that you just get the hell out and hide to the station until they are gone from the system.
Another option which should be cheaper and plug some of the dps holes you have in your setup is:
[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
That should get you closer to 23K EHP, and higher resists.
Or you can use this:
[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Which gives you almost 24K EHP and even better resists, or replace the amplifier with a T1 invul field.
Also still to note:
If they want your ship to blow, it will blow. |
Mercury Maken
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:48:00 -
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"Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive"
My understanding of setting your drones to aggressive would mean that, and please correct me if i am wrong, they aggress people who just target you? Meaning someone could just target you and then your drones would aggress, leaving you to suffer the wrath of concord?
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.01.11 13:27:00 -
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Mercury Maken wrote:
"Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive"
My understanding of setting your drones to aggressive would mean that, and please correct me if i am wrong, they aggress people who just target you? Meaning someone could just target you and then your drones would aggress, leaving you to suffer the wrath of concord?
It doesn't work like that. The aggressors have to actually shoot at you for the drones to react. I think there use to be a bug regarding aggressive drones and can flipping, but I think CCP fixed that. |
astara989
Push Mineral Extraction
Push Interstellar Network
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Posted - 2012.01.11 13:53:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:Thought miners would just dock up there hulk and pull out there old dusty BS with the minig lazors.
That is an option, it nearly halfs your yeild, Risk vs. Reward I guess. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Cascade Imminent
19
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:09:00 -
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The problem is, you assume people won't throw 4-5 thrashers your way. Thrashers are cheap, people will easily throw tons for a single kill.
Best want to tank for hulkagedon... Get in your indy hauler and run courier missions to raise your standinds for the week. Provide no targets. Don't give them a challenge, they will rise to it. Just dock up, do something else, and enjoy the time off. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
54
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:37:00 -
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I still think the BS with mining lasers is your best option, kinda hard to gank a even shield fit armor BS in hi-sec.
Its better to get less yield for a week then to lose hulks, also they will still have plenty of Bots to gank in there hulks any way. |
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astara989
Push Mineral Extraction
Push Interstellar Network
22
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:57:00 -
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Can get a rokh up to 120k EHP and 891 M3 ore a min with a 916m3 cargo. About 60-65% of the yield of the above anti-gank Hulks and far harder to pop, as well as cheaper. |
Skorpynekomimi
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
81
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:06:00 -
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My fit will be the exact same as always. However, the tank will be much improved by the addition of a station around it.
My official plan for hulkageddon is 'go back to running missions'. I can get minerals off that for some production, and I doubt my haulers will be targeted anyway.
I mean. I COULD tank my Wreathes, but I can't be arsed. They can't carry enough stuff to be worth fitting a tank to them. My mammoth is tanked, but only to protect the 30mil of cargo rigs.
Or I can do some wizardry, and go mine in null for a bit in a covetor, if I can be arsed to mine at all. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.01.11 23:48:00 -
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Ohgod hulkageddon will be bloody with the new tier3 BCs |
Borun Tal
Cubicle Warriors from 'merica
30
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Posted - 2012.01.12 00:02:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Ohgod hulkageddon will be bloody with the new tier3 BCs
One can only hope...  |
ariel jade
Terran Colonial Guard
2
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Posted - 2012.01.19 20:16:00 -
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Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
43
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Posted - 2012.01.19 21:15:00 -
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Your ehp is wrong..
Plug your holes first.
I am someone, and probably not the only one.. that scans the fit of my exhumer targets so I know how cheap I can go on guns/ship n ammo type, if I see a hole in the resist.. I'm going to exploit it with ease.
And DCU is huge.. if I'm solo ganking (mind you I only go for macrobot miners unless its HG time).. I'll skip the person, unless it's a bot I really want to pop. But very, very, very few bots I seen use DCUs.
But no fit is safe. None. If myself or others really want to pop you.. we will. Different ship, setup, more ppl.. whatever it takes. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.01.20 03:35:00 -
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ariel jade wrote:Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.
Not going to work considering the time it takes to lock the aggressor, the amount of alpha the aggressor is putting out, the time and distance needed to travel in warp to reach the target. |
Marsan
Production N Destruction INC.
Blue Moon Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:11:00 -
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ariel jade wrote:Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.
That's just plain stupid.
1) There is no way a fleet could warp there in time.
2) What is the point. The aggressor is losing the ships any way.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
141
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Posted - 2012.01.21 01:00:00 -
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I herd that if u fit 2x Gisti B-Type Small Booster, it makes you hard to kill.
They cost a bit, but will save you many times over in Exhumer Losses....
Here is a good fit:
Hulkaggeddon Permatank Special
3x T2 Strips
2x Cap Rechargers II
2x Gisti B-Type Small Boosters
2x Cargohold Expander II
Rigs:
2x T2 Cargohold Optimization |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2012.01.22 02:59:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:I herd that if u fit 2x Gisti B-Type Small Booster, it makes you hard to kill.
They cost a bit, but will save you many times over in Exhumer Losses....
Here is a good fit:
Hulkaggeddon Permatank Special
3x T2 Strips
2x Cap Rechargers II
2x Gisti B-Type Small Boosters
2x Cargohold Expander II
Rigs:
2x T2 Cargohold Optimization
Seems legit.
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Trinkets friend
Obstergo
NEM3SIS.
107
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Posted - 2012.01.22 04:55:00 -
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I would suggest, if you want, mining in a Ferox. It has very little in the way of an EM hole, you can fit plenty of Miner IIs, it gets hulk-esque yield, and is way cheaper than a BS.
Also, learn to scan for gravs. They do exist in hisec, you will be 99% harder to gank than sitting in a belt, and Hulkageddon gankers won't bother trying to probe you down. Not that they can actually use d-scan.
The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man.
Sun Tzu
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Jesus Rambo
Friendship is Magic
The Laughing Men
34
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Posted - 2012.01.22 18:25:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:I herd that if u fit 2x Gisti B-Type Small Booster, it makes you hard to kill.
They cost a bit, but will save you many times over in Exhumer Losses....
Here is a good fit:
Hulkaggeddon Permatank Special
3x T2 Strips
2x Cap Rechargers II
2x Gisti B-Type Small Boosters
2x Cargohold Expander II
Rigs:
2x T2 Cargohold Optimization
I used this last hulkageddon, and it was hilarious. Nobody could even scratch the paint on my Hulk. Survived probably 15-20 attacks easily. |
Chim-Chim
Grave Digger's Mining
0
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Posted - 2012.02.02 21:07:00 -
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This another rendition for Hulkageddon:
RIGS ( 2 ) - Capacitor Control Circuit II
HIGHS: ( 3 ) - Modulated Strip Miner II
MEDS: ( 2 ) - Gistti B-Type Small Shield Booster
( 1 ) - True Sanshas Capacitor Recharger
( 1 ) - Invulnerability Field II
LOWS: ( 2 ) - Capacitor Flux Coil II
Shield resistances are much improved of course with T2 Orca Gang-Links...
Capacitor is steady with an average of 84-85% with shields running.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.02.03 05:18:00 -
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The only possible way you will avoid losing your ship during Hulkageddon is by leaving it in the station. There is nothing you can do to prevent your mining ship from being ganked. "Super Tanking" it merely means I have to bring another friend in a Tornado. If you decide to mine in a battleship and be uppity about it, we'll just bring more Tornadoes. While it is impossible for miners to comprehend that we are willing to throw away massive quantities of ISK to get you, try to understand; nothing will save you if you undock. |
Captian FruitLoop
Blitzkrieg Innovations
0
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Posted - 2012.02.03 06:42:00 -
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Here is the best thing you could probably do during this event, DON'T MINE...
Seriously people, listing fits that you need to spend the same amount on mods as the ship itself costs? I for one won't fly a ship I could easily lose if the mods cost more than the ship itself. Get a friend, and go do lvl 4 missions. One goes and kills everything, while the other follows w/ a MWD or AB in a destroyer and salvages/loots all the wrecks. It's the most simple thing in the world. Well... Have fun with your 200mil ships and your 200mil fits which can, and will be shot down with less than 50mil worth of ships and mods. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
Villore Accords
122
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Posted - 2012.02.03 07:36:00 -
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Captian FruitLoop wrote:Here is the best thing you could probably do during this event, DON'T MINE...
Seriously people, listing fits that you need to spend the same amount on mods as the ship itself costs? I for one won't fly a ship I could easily lose if the mods cost more than the ship itself. Get a friend, and go do lvl 4 missions. One goes and kills everything, while the other follows w/ a MWD or AB in a destroyer and salvages/loots all the wrecks. It's the most simple thing in the world. Well... Have fun with your 200mil ships and your 200mil fits which can, and will be shot down with less than 50mil worth of ships and mods.
Thats not in the spirt of hulkageddon at all. 
Minners should take pride on minnig and deflecting ganks!! Thats 1/2 the reson so meany people don't respect minners is talk like that.
I can't wait till my indy alt is ready to mine during hulkagaddon!
I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Miregar Shakor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.02.03 08:04:00 -
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Awww! Look at all these sweet little kittens, trying to gank-proof their bot miner Hulks! How adoooorable!
Year after year the same heart-softening, eye-watering lullaby of cuddliness.
Reminds me of a tale about a not-so-wise man who rebuilds his home in a tornado valley.
Every year.
Just to see it being torn down by uncontrolable forces of nature.
Every year.
So he ponders, what if i'd use stronger, more expensive timber?
Every year.
He tries to build his wooden home differently, rotating the base in a different angle.
Every year.
He is spending hours nad hours and hours discussing possible remedies for his grievance with likeminded fellows.
Every year.
And as the hurricane season arrives..
Every year.
..his home gets torn down once again.
Every. Single. Year.
Reminds you of anything?
Tanking your Hulks will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Pre-spawning Concord will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
"Defender fleet of ships" will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
ECM will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Mining in Gravimetric Sites will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Mining in Battleships/Battlecruisers will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
NOTHING will protect you against Hulkageddon squads if you decide to mine.
But hey, respected miner fellow, do not yield to the tyranny of the few!
Defy this abominable notion!
Stand by your goals and ideas!
PROVE that the man rebuilding his home in a tornado valley over and over and over again is NOT a mere simpleton, a feebleminded moron, a blithering idiot! |
Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.03 09:57:00 -
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just get in a mining bs and let them gank the hulk next to you. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
Villore Accords
122
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Posted - 2012.02.03 10:08:00 -
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Miregar Shakor wrote:Awww! Look at all these sweet little kittens, trying to gank-proof their bot miner Hulks! How adoooorable!
Year after year the same heart-softening, eye-watering lullaby of cuddliness.
Reminds me of a tale about a not-so-wise man who rebuilds his home in a tornado valley.
Every year.
Just to see it being torn down by uncontrolable forces of nature.
Every year.
So he ponders, what if i'd use stronger, more expensive timber?
Every year.
He tries to build his wooden home differently, rotating the base in a different angle.
Every year.
He is spending hours nad hours and hours discussing possible remedies for his grievance with likeminded fellows.
Every year.
And as the hurricane season arrives..
Every year.
..his home gets torn down once again.
Every. Single. Year.
Reminds you of anything?
Tanking your Hulks will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Pre-spawning Concord will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
"Defender fleet of ships" will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
ECM will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Mining in Gravimetric Sites will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
Mining in Battleships/Battlecruisers will not protect you against Hulkageddon squads.
NOTHING will protect you against Hulkageddon squads if you decide to mine.
But hey, respected miner fellow, do not yield to the tyranny of the few!
Defy this abominable notion!
Stand by your goals and ideas!
PROVE that the man rebuilding his home in a tornado valley over and over and over again is NOT a mere simpleton, a feebleminded moron, a blithering idiot!
LOL you just don't get it. Its fun to be the mouse.
I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Miregar Shakor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.02.03 10:20:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:LOL you just don't get it. Its fun to be the mouse.
On the contrary, kind Sir!
And by all means, please, continue! We all can have fun that way
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