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Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:03:00 -
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Well done you took something really annoying and made it so overpower that you are perma jammed with 2 ECCM modules all the way out to 250km.
Did you morons even test it, i mean come on for fucks sake? |
sableye
principle of motion
174
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:04:00 -
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move region.
they want to make the north worthless. |
Calathea Sata
State War Academy
2151
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:04:00 -
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Agreed, it's fuckingannoying and stupid and doesn't make the fight any "funner". |
Arcana Mortis
Esokal Command
Galactic Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:05:00 -
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I can't say that I've noticed their jamming being this uber powerfull... |
Dosage Maxius
Rekall Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:07:00 -
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they do seem alot more powerfull now at jamming |
SupaKudoRio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:08:00 -
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With two ECCMs, you say...? What's your sensor strength? |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:11:00 -
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If PVE suddenly becomes challenging for you, you are a bad player who lack the capacity to adapt. GTFO before its too late.
Nonetheless... delicious ragecake!
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Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
47
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:12:00 -
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SupaKudoRio wrote:With two ECCMs, you say...? What's your sensor strength?
[Tengu, PVE - Active HML]
Damage Control II
Domination Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Salvager II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
126 Sensor Strength
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
18
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:13:00 -
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I also noticed a slight increase in jamming times, but my Tengu has a decent sensor strength so i just use my repper a bit (if needed), reload my launchers, chat a little and I'm good to go again!
Perhaps it's a hidden Minmatar nerf as they have the weakest sensors? |
Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
47
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:14:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:If PVE suddenly becomes challenging for you, you are a bad player who lack the capacity to adapt. GTFO before its too late.
Nonetheless... delicious ragecake!
It isn't a challenge it's boring and it's broken. |
Alpheias
14
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:19:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:Alpheias wrote:If PVE suddenly becomes challenging for you, you are a bad player who lack the capacity to adapt. GTFO before its too late.
Nonetheless... delicious ragecake!
It isn't a challenge it's boring and it's broken.
It is obviously a challenge for you, too much of a challenge even if you call it boring. And compared to how bad it used to be, I'd call it fixed.
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Irani Firecam
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
266
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:23:00 -
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Just treat ECM as a mini break in your grind to take a walk, grab a coffee or check on your mining lasers. |
SupaKudoRio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:23:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:126 Sensor Strength
If that's true, along with being permajammed, something smells fishy. I'd bug report it.
Out of curiosity, how many jamming rats did you have on you at once? |
Gavjack Bunk
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
66
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:30:00 -
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Irani Firecam wrote:Just treat ECM as a mini break in your grind to take a walk, grab a coffee or check on your mining lasers.
In the last DevBlog it said that because you can't actually play Eve while jammed, they're giving you 2x SP gain rate while jammed to make up for it.
True Story.
Nah I made it up. Price of Falcons would Quintiple if they did that, but prevalence on the battle field would drop significantly, they'd all be in 1.0 jamming members of [UC] |
Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
47
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:34:00 -
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Must not feed the Troll. Ahh shite, did it again.
Irani Firecam wrote:Just treat ECM as a mini break in your grind to take a walk, grab a coffee or check on your mining lasers.
I run plex's for fun not much else, and i can't take a break in 0.0 to do anything but leave the plex. Still no one else is going to get it done without a tank to draw ECM..
SupaKudoRio wrote:Mamba Lev wrote:126 Sensor Strength If that's true, along with being permajammed, something smells fishy. I'd bug report it. Out of curiosity, how many jamming rats did you have on you at once?
Yup did that, then i came her to complain to those morons to make me feel better and put the lack of ******* swear filter to use.
Anything between 1 and 6 jamming me at once.
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Diablo Ex
Reasonable People
0
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:49:00 -
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Their called F.o.F. (Auto-Targeting) Missiles.
Carry a few in your cargo bay.
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Alpheias
14
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:53:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:Must not feed the Troll. Ahh shite, did it again.
Umad?
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SupaKudoRio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2011.04.08 12:58:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:
Anything between 1 and 6 jamming me at once.
With a sensor strength that high... that's just plain broken. Regular rats should not be able to outperform even specialized T2 player ships (a falcon with maxed skills and pure-jamming fit and a full rack of grav jammers comes to 60% effectiveness without delving into faction/officer mods). I don't understand. I guess a dev managed to add an extra zero or two somewhere. Possibly the same one that left out a zero or two on rockets and left them horribly broken for a year or so. CCP: fire that man, seriously. |
Deb Dukar
Peach Pit Corp
Cassiopeia.
27
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Posted - 2011.04.08 13:09:00 -
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must be fun with marauders now ^^ |
ivar R'dhak
3
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Posted - 2011.04.08 13:18:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:SupaKudoRio wrote:With two ECCMs, you say...? What's your sensor strength? [Tengu, PVE - Active HML] 126 Sensor Strength
Are you fricken kidding me CCP?
This is ridiculous, guess no more Gurista missions for my Marauder. 
Oh, yeah. In be4 move to missions forum.  |
Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
7
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Posted - 2011.04.08 13:19:00 -
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SupaKudoRio wrote:Mamba Lev wrote:
Anything between 1 and 6 jamming me at once.
With a sensor strength that high... that's just plain broken. Regular rats should not be able to outperform even specialized T2 player ships (a falcon with maxed skills and pure-jamming fit and a full rack of grav jammers comes to 60% effectiveness without delving into faction/officer mods). I don't understand. I guess a dev managed to add an extra zero or two somewhere. Possibly the same one that left out a zero or two on rockets and left them horribly broken for a year or so. CCP: fire that man, seriously.
Can we blade Tuxford for this too? |
Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
47
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Posted - 2011.04.08 13:19:00 -
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SupaKudoRio wrote:Mamba Lev wrote:
Anything between 1 and 6 jamming me at once.
With a sensor strength that high... that's just plain broken. Regular rats should not be able to outperform even specialized T2 player ships (a falcon with maxed skills and pure-jamming fit and a full rack of grav jammers comes to 60% effectiveness without delving into faction/officer mods). I don't understand. I guess a dev managed to add an extra zero or two somewhere. Possibly the same one that left out a zero or two on rockets and left them horribly broken for a year or so. CCP: fire that man, seriously.
I agree it also says to me it wasn't tested at all, since every single rat seemed to be able to jam me whether frigate, cruiser or Battleship all the way out to 250km.. |
Achrius
Galactic Federation of Lolis
0
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:51:00 -
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I counted being jammed 39 times in 1 pocket in my Nightmare 28radar points.
edit: This is just silly, getting jammed 3-4 times per battleship, that's 60-80 seconds jammed |
Gwenywell Shumuku
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2011.04.08 18:36:00 -
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He, funny you do mention it, i got cycle jammend by 6 exterminator rats yesterday for 30min, while beeing scrambled.
Now, i never was in danger or anything, but it was really really annoying not beeing able to target anything to get my drones to kill the right ships.
It seemd kinda "new" to me, but now that i know i can adapt. But the jamming is definetively more effective then before the patch. |
Gistatis Tribunus
The Unknown Bar and Pub
3
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Posted - 2011.04.08 18:41:00 -
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So... the price of Pith X-Types will probably rise now?
I've hated Gurista rats before, and it seems I would hate them even more now lol. |
Khanya Trace
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.04.08 18:56:00 -
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doing the caldari combat tutorial missions is now almost impossible with a new char.
Once jammed, this will not change, so you have to warp out of the mission, come back, fire a few shots, fly out, come back...
This change was not tested at all. |
Farrisen
Cerbian
Cerbian Syndicate
44
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:14:00 -
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Khanya Trace wrote:doing the caldari combat tutorial missions is now almost impossible with a new char.
Once jammed, this will not change, so you have to warp out of the mission, come back, fire a few shots, fly out, come back...
This change was not tested at all.
Petition it or /bug, all tough i think a petition would be best to inform them of this^^ (they might stealth nerf the jamming again :D) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:19:00 -
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Hillarious.
Contrary to what CCP stated, ECCM already worked exactly as expected against Guristas before the patch, and testing had even revealed the jamming strengths of the rats' ECM, and everything was already working exactly the same as with player ECM. What CCP said they were trying to fix (and/or introduce in the game) was already in the game.
So in trying to "fix" something that already worked the way they wanted it to work, they managed to break it instead. Classic.
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Farrisen
Cerbian
Cerbian Syndicate
44
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:23:00 -
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Yeah even meta 3 ECCM on a tengu did wonders before the patch lol |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
0
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Posted - 2011.04.08 20:47:00 -
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Mamba Lev wrote:Well done you took something really annoying and made it so overpower that you are perma jammed with 2 ECCM modules all the way out to 250km.
Did you morons even test it, i mean come on for fucks sake?
Did he just say "****" just now?
I mean I clearly read the word "****" in this post.
Anyone else able to see that the OP typed the four letters that spell the word "****" and there was no censoring?
I must be imagining this. I mean you can not type out "****" on EVE forums and not have it censored right?
Just because if is a new forum does not mean CCP would not take the time to test such things, so I must be imagining this. Move along. Nothing to see here.
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