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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.30 20:48:00 -
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Hello folks,
Its been about 2 years since i bought my last PC and its time to upgrade. So where is a good place to get a High-end gaming PC?? I got my last system from Overclockers.co.uk but was less than satisifed with there customer service or delivery times (long story). I know Alienware are a big brand but I have heard they are expensive.
So where do you guys get your systems from? I am UK based so obviously something native would be better. Any help appreciated!!
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Na'Kunni
Amarr
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.30 20:51:00 -
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www.beastcomputers.co.uk
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Rei Sara
Duty.
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:11:00 -
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Whoever you buy from, make sure they'll give you some information on what they do to address heat dissipation in your computer.
I have a friend who bought a "high performance" PC from a well-known name; it had a top of the line processor, overclocked of course, on a solid motherboard with a nice SLI pair, top-of-the-line SATA hard drive... and two small case fans.
From day one it would overheat and reboot repeatedly.
I might have a slightly generous viewpoint on this, but you should really have one 80mm case fan (or 1/2 a 120mm fan) for every processor, video card, and hard drive in the computer.
Also, my recommendation for getting a good gaming PC is to just make friends with a total computer geek who would build the thing for you for fun. In most cases us ubergeek types are so thrilled to get to play with all the shiniest new bits and pieces that we'll make sure you get the good stuff in your system.
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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:18:00 -
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I'm glad you mention the heating issue. Its the main reason I will never ever buy from Evesham Technology. A few years back i bought, what was then, a top of the line system. AMD64 x2 4400+, Dual Nvidia 6800GT's in sli etc etc...
They shipped the system with 2 x 80mm fans positioned in the front of the case... and nothing else... nothing at all. As with yours it overheated constantly, and resulted in me calling the engineers out who replaced the following (all within 2 yr period):
Mobo x 1
HDD x 2
Graph cards (both each time) x 5!!
I tried to tell them i thought it was system cooling related but they wouldn't listen. Each time replacing parts at will! They could of saved themselves a lot of money by simply cooling the system properly!!
I'll never make the mistake of not asking about cooling again!
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Benco97
Gallente
Nova Inc.
Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:23:00 -
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Just build your own, it'll be much cheaper and easier.
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Draven Nightblood
Gallente
Blade Runners
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:25:00 -
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Yes building your own is the best way to go, and definitely keep heat in mind...
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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:28:00 -
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although i have built older PC's myself i'm not up to date with the latest gear. I would be more worried about installing it incorrectly or messing something up.
Ideally i would want a watercooled setup (especially as i would be looking to use dual Nvidia 8800 Ultra's). And I have never ever seen/used watercooling before so would have no idea where to start :(
I need more Geeky friends!
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.30 22:12:00 -
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Make it a project.
Do research on Mobo's. Find good deal. Buy Mobo.
Do research on Processors. Find good deal. Buy Processor.
Every couple days take the parts that arrive, plug em in, power on the unit, make sure it works, etc.
Use wikipedia to look up terms you don't understand like Dual Core or whatever.
As you handle each part and become familiar with it, your confidence will grow, and you will understand how the next part fits in.
Make it a learning project as well as a building project.
You still have your old rig to use until your project is complete, so there is no pressure, just work on it when you have time.
That is the way to build a gaming rig.
Buying gaming rigs prebuilt is for ppl who want to spend $3000 for $800 worth of computer.
A quick and dirty way is to simply buy a cheap mid-range Dell with a big power supply, and drop in a decent mid-range video card.
The reason I like buying from Dell is because usually the whole system is cheaper than if I bought all the parts individually and put them together myself, plus you have the OS licensed so you don't have to deal with licensing issues. Also if something goes wrong, at least you have someone on the phone to call.
Granted Dell technicians are a bunch of toolboxes who couldn't diagnose their way out of a wet paper bag, but at least if you accidentally fry something you can get a replacement.
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Rei Sara
Duty.
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Posted - 2007.07.30 22:19:00 -
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I don't have any personal experience with installing water cooling, but the general complexity of assembling a system really hasn't changed that much.
AGP slots have sort of evolved into PCIe slots, no real difference between the two from an installation standpoint. IDE cables have been surpassed by SATA cables, which are impossible to install incorrectly thanks to an L-shaped connector.
Putting the standard heatsink on the new Core 2 processors is a little scary though - when they snap into place you're likely to think you broke something.
But if you built a system before, I'd really say you could do it now.
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Alis Aquilae
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Posted - 2007.07.31 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: Alis Aquilae on 31/07/2007 06:47:24
www.newegg.com
Clearly the winner.
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Samuel Carthage
Caldari
Wilde Cards
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Posted - 2007.07.31 07:37:00 -
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www.digitalstormonline.com
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Psyco Groupie
Ardent Adversary
Anvil.
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Posted - 2007.07.31 08:31:00 -
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If money doesnt count
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Ealiom
Infinitus Morti
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.31 10:18:00 -
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As previous poster said.
Search for the best individual components. Make sure they are all compatible with each other and your wallet then buy and build it.
You will save much more money than if you bought it from the likes of Alienware. They are bloated overhyped machines.
If you want the best its the cheapest way to get it. Besides I wouldnt want Alienware everything staring at me everytime I booted up......
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Tenerhaddi
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.07.31 12:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Machiko Noguchi
I'm glad you mention the heating issue. Its the main reason I will never ever buy from Evesham Technology. A few years back i bought, what was then, a top of the line system. AMD64 x2 4400+, Dual Nvidia 6800GT's in sli etc etc...
They shipped the system with 2 x 80mm fans positioned in the front of the case... and nothing else... nothing at all. As with yours it overheated constantly, and resulted in me calling the engineers out who replaced the following (all within 2 yr period):
Mobo x 1
HDD x 2
Graph cards (both each time) x 5!!
I tried to tell them i thought it was system cooling related but they wouldn't listen. Each time replacing parts at will! They could of saved themselves a lot of money by simply cooling the system properly!!
I'll never make the mistake of not asking about cooling again!
funny you say that. my computer not top end but pretty good computer from Evesham. If i leave my computer 6 hours it seems to trip or something. So i pull the lead out press off switch at the back and press on botten and off etc. Then put lead back in and turn back on as well and starts then cuts then starts. Press F1 and some times my clock goess so i have to reset it. So far Tech support blaming everything but the computer. I dont have time or energy to deal with ot but i calling next week to say Take computer and repair or money back!
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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.31 12:36:00 -
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I gave up trying to get them to refund the PC. And when i asked about a replacement they started telling me how long it would take them to do it etc etc... I just gave up.
Crappy customer services. I have been considering legal action but not sure if its worth it!
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Frezik
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.31 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Sara
I might have a slightly generous viewpoint on this, but you should really have one 80mm case fan (or 1/2 a 120mm fan) for every processor, video card, and hard drive in the computer.
Having the fans setup to give good airflow is far more important than the number of fans. Fans setup to pull air in opposite directions will make a lot of noise without doing much.
Don't underestimate the power of a zip-tie. Bind your cables together and push them to the side where they won't stop airflow.
My own system is a full-tower, and has a 120mm fan on the bottom pulling in, and a 120mm and two 80mm fans blowing out on top (remember, heat rises, so top fans should blow out). This is an "unbalanced" design (more fans blowing out than blowing in), which will pull cool air through every little crevice in the case. The downside is that it also pulls dust through every little crevice in the case.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:09:00 -
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Cyber power:
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:55:00 -
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Why not build one yourself? It's much more fun and a lot cheaper. For the same amount of money you get a better comp.
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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.31 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mangala Solaris
Cyber power:
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/
That company looks good, prices are great aswell!! Will need to do a little research (testimonies etc etc) but there the best so far.
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trivit
Caldari
Shadow Command
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.07.31 16:29:00 -
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The best gaming PC's are not bought, they are built. You can easily aquire all required parts and build one cheaper than can be purchased. I consult and build often and have for a living. Do some google searching and reading on related topics. There are many great websites to help you make decisions.
Cheers, and good luck.
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Machiko Noguchi
Puget Sound's - Shadow - Triad
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Posted - 2007.07.31 19:50:00 -
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As i've already said, I don't have the skills nor the confidence to build one myself. The system i want will be watercooled, running 768mb graph cards and will cost me the best part of a month's wages... Its not something i want to "bodge" and do it wrong.
Either way i'm going to end up paying someone else to build it for me so i might aswell use alienware/cyberpower or whoever. At least i will have a warranty of some sort.
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Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:33:00 -
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go with Vigorgaming.com
trust me on this one
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